# Bill Cosby is finally being charged for sex crimes, it is about damn time

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**Created:** [December 30, 2015, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-cosby-is-finally-being-charged-for-sex-crimes-it-is-about-damn-time/741735 "2015-12-30T17:15:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-cosby-is-finally-being-charged-for-sex-crimes-it-is-about-damn-time/741735/21 "2015-12-30T22:47:33Z")

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> [@harmonicamoon](#):
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> I hope he gets therapy. If the accusations are true, he is a sick man.
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> He could have afforded top of the line prostitutes. But chose to use drugs on his victims. Not very creative.

> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I would guess he could get willing sex partners without even going to prostitutes. He was wealthy, funny, attractive and famous.

At least one of the victims has said that the two were in a consensual sexual relationship at the time, but he drugged her and raped her while she was out despite the fact she was willing when she was conscious.

That, to me, says that it’s really not at all about having a willing sex partner, paid or unpaid. He’s a guy who gets off on having an _unwilling_ sex partner.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-cosby-is-finally-being-charged-for-sex-crimes-it-is-about-damn-time/741735/22 "2015-12-30T22:53:30Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Don’t know if they really have enough here. They’re relying on the woman’s statements and Cosby’s admission in a civil trial deposition that he gave women Quaaludes for consensual sex. It’s not like there haven’t been trials and convictions for rape with that level of evidence, but it sounds weak. I think he did it, but it also looks like a sort of show trial intended to embarrass him with little chance of an honest conviction. But the totality of the evidence makes him look very guilty and I’m having a difficult time feeling sorry for him.

I don’t have a brilliant legal mind, but giving a woman Quaaludes in order to have sex with her doesn’t strike me as consensual. How is it different from slipping her some GHB?

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-cosby-is-finally-being-charged-for-sex-crimes-it-is-about-damn-time/741735/23 "2015-12-30T22:53:41Z")

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> [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](#):
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> At least one of the victims has said that the two were in a consensual sexual relationship at the time, but he drugged her and raped her while she was out despite the fact she was willing when she was conscious.
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> That, to me, says that it’s really not at all about having a willing sex partner, paid or unpaid. He’s a guy who gets off on having an _unwilling_ sex partner.

Has anybody checked with the morgue to see if they have occasionally ‘misplaced’ some bodies?

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-cosby-is-finally-being-charged-for-sex-crimes-it-is-about-damn-time/741735/24 "2015-12-30T22:54:48Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> I don’t have a brilliant legal mind, but giving a woman Quaaludes in order to have sex with her doesn’t strike me as consensual. How is it different from slipping her some GHB?

His position is that she wanted to take the the quaaludes before sex. If true, there’s nothing criminal about that (except for the illegal drug use)

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-cosby-is-finally-being-charged-for-sex-crimes-it-is-about-damn-time/741735/25 "2015-12-30T22:55:37Z")

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Fair enough. Thanks for the info

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-cosby-is-finally-being-charged-for-sex-crimes-it-is-about-damn-time/741735/26 "2015-12-30T23:04:37Z")

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Yeah. I know people who took Quaaludes for an enhanced sexual experience. Personally I think they slept through it and assumed it was enhanced, but no one cried rape.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-cosby-is-finally-being-charged-for-sex-crimes-it-is-about-damn-time/741735/27 "2015-12-30T23:59:32Z")

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> [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](#):
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> At least one of the victims has said that the two were in a consensual sexual relationship at the time, but he drugged her and raped her while she was out despite the fact she was willing when she was conscious.
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> That, to me, says that it’s really not at all about having a willing sex partner, paid or unpaid. He’s a guy who gets off on having an _unwilling_ sex partner.

Exactly. I don’t know why, since we’ve been saying it for forty years, but people keep forgetting, or are wilfully ignorant, that rape is about power, not sex. This is a classic example. A willing partner is no fun. I also wonder if the cops are taking a special look at their unsolved murders. Killing her by accident is always a risk, and killing her on purpose is just a short step.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-cosby-is-finally-being-charged-for-sex-crimes-it-is-about-damn-time/741735/28 "2015-12-31T00:04:17Z")

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We’ve already got one thread on the subject, so I’m closing his one.

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