# Bill Kristol's "Independent Candidate" - who will it be? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 30, 2016, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-kristols-independent-candidate-who-will-it-be/756048 "2016-05-30T01:25:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2016, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-kristols-independent-candidate-who-will-it-be/756048/21 "2016-05-30T19:48:14Z")
The Weekend is almost over. Any winner announced yet? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2016, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-kristols-independent-candidate-who-will-it-be/756048/22 "2016-05-30T20:22:15Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Quayle did run for President in 2000. Nobody noticed or cared. > > What’s different now? All the more serious candidates have been purged from the party, and the less serious ones have been fighting over who gets to do the purging. For the last 16 years, the only winning move was not to play. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-kristols-independent-candidate-who-will-it-be/756048/23 "2016-05-30T20:30:02Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Dan Quayle! 😃 ====High Voltage Cables====\< POTATOE \>============= Its Alive…! ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-kristols-independent-candidate-who-will-it-be/756048/24 "2016-05-30T21:27:37Z")
[Trump is angry](https://twitter.com/P0TUSTrump/status/737383556041740288): [INDENT][INDENT]America has finally caught on to .@BillKristol & .@MittRomney & other Democrats in disguise. WE THE PEOPLE will NEVER forgive these crooks. [/INDENT][/INDENT] Heh. DIDI: Democrats in Disguise. [More](http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/05/30/trump_unleashes_tirade_against_bill_kristol_over_independent_bid.html): [INDENT][INDENT]Bill Kristol has been wrong for 2yrs-an embarrassed loser, but if the GOP can’t control their own, then they are not a party. Be tough, R’s! [/INDENT][/INDENT] Slate (and Trump) seem to think that Kristol has Romney in mind. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2016, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-kristols-independent-candidate-who-will-it-be/756048/25 "2016-05-30T23:35:38Z")
Can’t be Mitt. Bill specifically promised us an impressive candidate … ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-kristols-independent-candidate-who-will-it-be/756048/26 "2016-05-31T01:37:09Z")
James “Mad Dog” Mattis? Maybe. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-kristols-independent-candidate-who-will-it-be/756048/27 "2016-05-31T01:40:16Z")
And the winner is: The worm-ravaged corpse of Dwight David Eisenhower. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-kristols-independent-candidate-who-will-it-be/756048/28 "2016-05-31T01:44:46Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > The Weekend is almost over. Any winner announced yet? Nope, but [more people have decided not to play.](http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/30/politics/adam-kinzinger-no-path-third-party-run/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-kristols-independent-candidate-who-will-it-be/756048/29 "2016-05-31T02:07:06Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > And the winner is: The worm-ravaged corpse of Dwight David Eisenhower. I’d seriously consider him. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-kristols-independent-candidate-who-will-it-be/756048/30 "2016-05-31T02:09:58Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > And the winner is: The worm-ravaged corpse of Dwight David Eisenhower. > [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > I’d seriously consider him. I’d want to know who his running mate is, first. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-kristols-independent-candidate-who-will-it-be/756048/31 "2016-05-31T06:23:23Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I’d want to know who his running mate is, first. The worm-ravaged corpse of GHW Bush. (Wait, did his parachute open??) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-kristols-independent-candidate-who-will-it-be/756048/32 "2016-05-31T06:34:40Z")
OK, then. the _impact_ ravaged corpse. Picky picky. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-kristols-independent-candidate-who-will-it-be/756048/33 "2016-05-31T12:04:27Z")
Romney could eliminate the possibility of Trump victory by just running in a few states — Utah, Nevada and a few swing states, e.g. Iowa and New Hampshire. (It wouldn’t matter that he couldn’t win any of these states except Utah: throwing them to Hillary is good enough.) Now, Trump could win Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania, but _it won’t be enough_ without Virginia. The decision would be tossed to the House of Reps. _ **But that won’t happen.** _ For Romney to run at all, let alone for the GOP House to ignore the voters’ will and give the Presidency to a man who wins only Utah really would mean the disintegration of the GOP. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-kristols-independent-candidate-who-will-it-be/756048/34 "2016-05-31T13:23:34Z")
Bill Kristol? Really? Why does anyone take anything he says seriously at this point? The only valid response to anything Bill Kristol proposes is laughter. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-kristols-independent-candidate-who-will-it-be/756048/35 "2016-05-31T13:28:25Z")
We are talking about the guy who played Miracle Max, right? ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-kristols-independent-candidate-who-will-it-be/756048/36 "2016-05-31T15:53:41Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Now, Trump could win Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania, but _it won’t be enough_ without Virginia. The decision would be tossed to the House of Reps. Yeah, and Bernie Sanders _could_ win Dancing With The Stars. I mean, sure, maybe he’s more flexible than we thought, but let’s not forget that this is The Bill Kristol Is Full of Shit Thread. ---
**Author:** ![boffking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@boffking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boffking)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-kristols-independent-candidate-who-will-it-be/756048/37 "2016-05-31T16:32:50Z")
Kristol should have realized that Jill Stein has been in the race for a while now. She seems to be gaining momentum in New England now that Bernie’s campaign is winding down. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-kristols-independent-candidate-who-will-it-be/756048/38 "2016-05-31T18:17:22Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Now, Trump could win Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania, but _it won’t be enough_ without Virginia. The decision would be tossed to the House of Reps. Or tossed to Hillary… (when Trump/Palin and Romney/Quayle split 30% of the vote) ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-kristols-independent-candidate-who-will-it-be/756048/39 "2016-05-31T18:38:19Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Not that Kristol’s ever been right about anything, but Gary Johnson was confirmed as the Libertarian Party’s nominee today (well, yesterday now). Probably no real chance to win, but a Johnson/Weld ticket may let them break the vote percentage gates for debate presence in the next presidential cycle (and not coincidentally maybe drain some of Trump’s (and possibly BernieBro) numbers). Johnson/Weld is the \*de facto \*alternate choice for staunch NeverTrump Republicans who just can’t bring themselves to vote Hillary or stay home – there isn’t going to be another one arising this late in the election cycle. ---
**Author:** ![tonyfop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/85f322/32.png) [@tonyfop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tonyfop)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-kristols-independent-candidate-who-will-it-be/756048/40 "2016-05-31T18:52:16Z")
I was going to say that he probably is talking about Johnson/Weld, since they are both Republicans with better street cred than Trump. I know that I am voting Libertarian in November, and I actually know a few other disgruntled Republicans that are going to follow. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-kristols-independent-candidate-who-will-it-be/756048.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-kristols-independent-candidate-who-will-it-be/756048.md?page=3)