# bill maher manages to piss off millions yet again with stan lee coments **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 17, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-maher-manages-to-piss-off-millions-yet-again-with-stan-lee-coments/824704 "2018-11-17T20:52:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-maher-manages-to-piss-off-millions-yet-again-with-stan-lee-coments/824704/1 "2018-11-17T20:52:51Z")
bill maher does it again this time its everyone who still reads comic books [https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/bill-maher-slammed-for-disrespecting-stan-lee-questioning-the-importance-of-comic-books/ar-BBPOdwn](https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/bill-maher-slammed-for-disrespecting-stan-lee-questioning-the-importance-of-comic-books/ar-BBPOdwn) you know he was cool in politically correct and after but I think hes getting old and cranky but for someone who allegedly has every playboy issue in a bound book and tried to get hefner sainthood this screams get off my lawn and get a real job type of comments ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-maher-manages-to-piss-off-millions-yet-again-with-stan-lee-coments/824704/2 "2018-11-17T21:06:28Z")
Yeah, I suppose he doesn’t want anyone to give a shit when he dies either. > [@my parody of his words](#): > > “But then twenty years or so ago, something happened – adults decided they didn’t have to give up kid stuff,” he said. “And so they pretended **comedians** were actually **news pundits**.” > > … > > “I don’t think it’s a huge stretch to suggest that Donald Trump could only get elected in a country that thinks **comedians** are important,” he wrote. My changes in bold. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-maher-manages-to-piss-off-millions-yet-again-with-stan-lee-coments/824704/3 "2018-11-17T21:53:26Z")
[My fav reply](https://twitter.com/SgtPepper1001/status/1063815373584257025): > [@Mack](#): > > I don’t know and don’t particularly care who Bill Maher is. I just know that anyone who pisses on people for mourning a man who helped make them happy is a titanic waste of space. I generally like Bill Maher, but this was just dumb as rocks. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-maher-manages-to-piss-off-millions-yet-again-with-stan-lee-coments/824704/4 "2018-11-17T22:08:25Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [My fav reply](https://twitter.com/SgtPepper1001/status/1063815373584257025):I generally like Bill Maher, but this was just dumb as rocks. See, I’m just the opposite. I occasionally agree with him on some things, but generally consider him a smarmy libertoonian asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-maher-manages-to-piss-off-millions-yet-again-with-stan-lee-coments/824704/5 "2018-11-17T22:31:44Z")
He says he has nothing against comic books, he just doesn’t think they equate to “sophisticated literature”, which he says adults have labeled them in the past twenty years. I have no idea if adults have indeed done this, but assuming he is correct, what is wrong with this opinion? To suggest that comic books aren’t important, however, is a bit unnecessary. Things don’t have to be sophisticated to be very important to people. Golf comes to mind. But there’s nothing wrong with that. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-maher-manages-to-piss-off-millions-yet-again-with-stan-lee-coments/824704/6 "2018-11-17T22:37:33Z")
I will assume nothing, for he is not correct. Maher: “But then twenty years or so ago, something happened – adults decided they didn’t have to give up kid stuff,” he said. “And so they pretended comic books were actually sophisticated literature.” No, no one really did that. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-maher-manages-to-piss-off-millions-yet-again-with-stan-lee-coments/824704/7 "2018-11-17T23:08:08Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > See, I’m just the opposite. I occasionally agree with him on some things, but generally consider him a smarmy libertoonian asshole. I liked him on Politically Incorrect, but I think he has degraded into a crazy old loser. Embarassing, really. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-maher-manages-to-piss-off-millions-yet-again-with-stan-lee-coments/824704/8 "2018-11-17T23:09:32Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I will assume nothing, for he is not correct. > Maher: “But then twenty years or so ago, something happened – adults decided they didn’t have to give up kid stuff,” he said. “And so they pretended comic books were actually sophisticated literature.” > > No, no one really did that. And there is also sophisticated literature with illustrations that are not comic books. Stan Lee wasn’t directly responsible for that but he is one very important link in the chain. Bill is also ignoring one important point. People simply liked Stan Lee as a human and are sad to see him go. Like a beloved uncle. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-maher-manages-to-piss-off-millions-yet-again-with-stan-lee-coments/824704/9 "2018-11-17T23:12:11Z")
I don’t quite understand his Trump point. Using absolutely no scientific studies or hard data I would assume that most adult comic book nerds would be anti-Trump. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-maher-manages-to-piss-off-millions-yet-again-with-stan-lee-coments/824704/10 "2018-11-17T23:13:39Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > People simply liked Stan Lee as a human and are sad to see him go. Like a beloved uncle. I’m assuming that he has in his contract that he gets cameos in every MCU movie for as long as the franchise exists. Extra footage, CGI, animatronics, cloning, whatever it takes. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-maher-manages-to-piss-off-millions-yet-again-with-stan-lee-coments/824704/11 "2018-11-17T23:25:20Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > I’m assuming that he has in his contract that he gets cameos in every MCU movie for as long as the franchise exists. Extra footage, CGI, animatronics, cloning, whatever it takes. Or boil his bones and carry them on to every set like Edward Longshanks wanted. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-maher-manages-to-piss-off-millions-yet-again-with-stan-lee-coments/824704/12 "2018-11-17T23:38:24Z")
I’ve read Cormac McCarthy, and Alexander Dumas, and Barbara Kingsolver. But only the climactic scene in the Sandman graphic novel series made me tear up. Maher, once again, spouts bullshit in a case he doesn’t know anything about, and then prances around in the attention he gets like a 4chan reject. Good for you, Bill. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-maher-manages-to-piss-off-millions-yet-again-with-stan-lee-coments/824704/13 "2018-11-18T00:24:15Z")
Coming from someone who has no interest in comic books and little interest in the movies that they spawned, I gotta say that it Maher was a dick by saying what he did when he did about Lee and the people who enjoyed Lee’s work. May Stripperella piss on Maher. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-maher-manages-to-piss-off-millions-yet-again-with-stan-lee-coments/824704/14 "2018-11-18T00:30:25Z")
I mean, so what if adults want to play video games, read comic books and watch South Park. Who are we to judge? _snicker_ ---
**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-maher-manages-to-piss-off-millions-yet-again-with-stan-lee-coments/824704/15 "2018-11-18T00:54:04Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I don’t quite understand his Trump point. Using absolutely no scientific studies or hard data I would assume that most adult comic book nerds would be anti-Trump. Much like the straight dope message board, throwing in a random tenuous link to Donald Trump is how you get people to take your point seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-maher-manages-to-piss-off-millions-yet-again-with-stan-lee-coments/824704/16 "2018-11-18T01:06:25Z")
> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#): > > He says he has nothing against comic books, he just doesn’t think they equate to “sophisticated literature”, which he says adults have labeled them in the past twenty years. I have no idea if adults have indeed done this, but assuming he is correct, what is wrong with this opinion? [A comic book won a Pulitzer once.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maus). So, yeah, some people definitely view some comic books as “sophisticated literature,” and with solid justification. Knobs like Maher think saying “comics can be serious literature” is the same as saying “Spider-Man is as good as The Brothers Karamazov,” but that’s an entirely different argument. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-maher-manages-to-piss-off-millions-yet-again-with-stan-lee-coments/824704/17 "2018-11-18T01:08:53Z")
There’s no reason for anyone to be pissed off by an uninformed opinion like this from someone like Maher. It doesn’t matter to anyone what he thinks about comic books. ---
**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-maher-manages-to-piss-off-millions-yet-again-with-stan-lee-coments/824704/18 "2018-11-18T01:29:01Z")
I wonder how much “sophisticated literature" Bill Maher has \*\*actually \*\* read. He has always struck me as a pretentious snob who thinks he’s smarter than he actually is. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-maher-manages-to-piss-off-millions-yet-again-with-stan-lee-coments/824704/19 "2018-11-18T01:31:01Z")
I like Bill Maher’s show, but god he’s an idiotic snowflake sometimes. No one gets upset about silly things more than him – and it’s usually him claiming to be upset that others are getting upset about something he thinks is silly! ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-maher-manages-to-piss-off-millions-yet-again-with-stan-lee-coments/824704/20 "2018-11-18T01:32:42Z")
> [@dorvann](#): > > I wonder how much “sophisticated literature" Bill Maher has \*\*actually \*\* read. He has always struck me as a pretentious snob who thinks he’s smarter than he actually is. He’s not unlike the similar, super-inflated, my-shit-don’t-stink-like-the-common-rabble’s, noisome Joe Queenan. That ‘Red Lobster, White Trash, Blue Lagoon’ book making fun of the ignorant peons, who most likely in sheer numbers elected tRump. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-maher-manages-to-piss-off-millions-yet-again-with-stan-lee-coments/824704.md?page=2)