# Bill O'Reilly is the devil!  Or is he...?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-oreilly-is-the-devil-or-is-he/180627>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 9, 2003, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-oreilly-is-the-devil-or-is-he/180627 "2003-06-09T12:14:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-oreilly-is-the-devil-or-is-he/180627/21 "2003-06-09T15:54:01Z")

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Yeah, there’s two Jeremy Glicks. So what?

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-oreilly-is-the-devil-or-is-he/180627/22 "2003-06-09T15:55:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Evil One \*  
> \*\*Hmmm. After looking over some of the links provided for the Jeremy Glick story, I’m somewhat suspicious. It seems to be a very convienient way to paint O’Reilly in the worst possible light. And with one guy making the allegations, and people of like mind picking up the story and running with it, could it be…dare I say…bullshit? \*\*

I’ve seen the “interview” on video, and it’s the most unprofessional piece of “journalism” I’ve ever seen. For it I coined the term “news wanchor”.

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**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-oreilly-is-the-devil-or-is-he/180627/23 "2003-06-09T16:37:10Z")

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Got a link to the video?

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**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-oreilly-is-the-devil-or-is-he/180627/24 "2003-06-09T16:40:22Z")

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I don’t care who he goes after. Starting an interview with “Why are you on this jihad against pro-choice speakers?” IS nasty spin, plain and simple, using an emotional word that, in our current climate, is meant to cast all sorts of nasty associations onto the person it describes. THAT is the sort of tactic I despise about O’Reily, not who he directs it at.

His bit with Gingrich makes sense, because that is just a common right-wing phrase floating around being used whenever convienient. But that doesn’t make it a false observation.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-oreilly-is-the-devil-or-is-he/180627/25 "2003-06-09T16:55:23Z")

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Apos, my original point was to refute the notion that O’Reilly is a right-wing puppet. I don’t sit down to watch his show with a box of kleenex and a bottle of hand lotion or anything, but I do enjoy it. I consider myself fairly well versed on current events…and O’Reilly is one of the only people to raise the bullshit flag on someone and call them on it. Some people don’t like that style…especially if the person being taken to task happens to be of thier particular ideological bent.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-oreilly-is-the-devil-or-is-he/180627/26 "2003-06-09T16:59:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Debaser \*  
> \*\*Got a link to the video? \*\*

I have it on my hard drive - mail me and I’ll send it to you (1Mb WMV file).

Just watched it again. Glick is espousing some radical viewpoints, but O’Reilly is a total shit.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-oreilly-is-the-devil-or-is-he/180627/27 "2003-06-09T17:14:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \*  
> **That was a guy named Jeremy Glick.**

At first glance, I thought you were talking about Jiminy Glick, that stupid character that Martin Short plays on his show on Comedy Central. I thought you weren’t being serious.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-oreilly-is-the-devil-or-is-he/180627/28 "2003-06-09T17:17:11Z")

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O’Reilly is a demonstrable liar. He’s extraordinally talented at what he does, and he’s extremely charismatic. He is an extremely talented rhetorical manipulator.

He’s not the devil. He is merely another in a long line of money- and power-driven media whores.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-oreilly-is-the-devil-or-is-he/180627/29 "2003-06-09T17:25:06Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Evil One \*  
> \*\*Apos, my original point was to refute the notion that O’Reilly is a right-wing puppet. I don’t sit down to watch his show with a box of kleenex and a bottle of hand lotion or anything, but I do enjoy it. I consider myself fairly well versed on current events…and O’Reilly is one of the only people to raise the bullshit flag on someone and call them on it. Some people don’t like that style…especially if the person being taken to task happens to be of thier particular ideological bent. \*\*

The problem is that his “bullshit flag” is flapped in the faces of people who merely disagree with him and aren’t necessarily trying to spin. He also lets Bush administration flunkies spin like tops without ever challenging anything. Newt Gingrich has criticised Bush’s foreign policy so that’s why O’Reilly hates him now.

Also, no one ever gets to call O’Reilly on his own quite considerable bullshit output.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-oreilly-is-the-devil-or-is-he/180627/30 "2003-06-09T17:43:24Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Evil One \*  
> \*\*Apos, my original point was to refute the notion that O’Reilly is a right-wing puppet… \*\*

he’s not a **perfect** right wing puppet, that’s for certain, since he holds definatively non r/w/p views on one or two issues.

Maybe he’s overdue for a tune up.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-oreilly-is-the-devil-or-is-he/180627/31 "2003-06-09T18:03:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by andros \*  
> **O’Reilly is a demonstrable liar.**

I know a few have already been presented, but would you care to provide a cite for your assertion?

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**Author:** ![Hully\_Gully](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7cd45c/32.png) [@Hully\_Gully](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hully_Gully)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-oreilly-is-the-devil-or-is-he/180627/32 "2003-06-09T18:25:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lord Ashtar \*  
> \*\*I know a few have already been presented, but would you care to provide a cite for your assertion? \*\*

[O’Reilly’s lies. Has a really nice ring to it.](http://www.fair.org/extra/0205/oh_really.html)

O’reilly is a registered Republican, who constantly refers to those on the left/liberals as " **radicals, charlatans and fanatics** , while simply referring to Republicans as just that, Republicans.

Yeah, no spin going on there.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Another example: his lead story tongith is apparently going to be his attempt to prove that Hillary Clintons new memoir is nothing but lies.

Really classy.

Really nice.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-oreilly-is-the-devil-or-is-he/180627/33 "2003-06-09T18:38:59Z")

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Good shootin’, **Hully Gully**.

Beyond that, well . . .

Tell ya what, **Ashtar**. You give me _any one_ of O’Reilly’s “Talking Points” memos, and I will show you the spin in it, giving lie to “no spin” claims.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-oreilly-is-the-devil-or-is-he/180627/34 "2003-06-09T18:50:27Z")

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O’Reilly also [lied](http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/oreilly-sucks/oreillypepsi.htm) about whether or not he called for a boycott of Pepsi because they used Ludacris in a commercial. He called for the boycott on the air and on his website. He has called boycotts “unAmerican” when they have born organized for causes he doesn’t like. When he was challenged on this inconsistency by an e-mailer, O’Reilly denied that he had ever urge a boycott. It was as flat and demonstrable a lie as he has ever told on the air.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-oreilly-is-the-devil-or-is-he/180627/35 "2003-06-09T18:56:49Z")

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There are many of us who think that Hillary’s ass is kissed by too many people…including those in the mainstream media. I personally can’t stand her or her politics…so anytime somebody puctures that aura of perfection she trys to maintain, I enjoy every minute of it.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-oreilly-is-the-devil-or-is-he/180627/36 "2003-06-09T19:03:55Z")

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Hillary has been brutalized and savaged by misogynistic hate screamers like Bill O’Reilly for the last 10 years. Who the fuck in the media ever kissed her ass?

Speaking of too much ass-kissing, you could hardly fnd a better example of that than Bill O’Reilly’s verbal rim jobs to Shrub on a fucking daily basis.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-oreilly-is-the-devil-or-is-he/180627/37 "2003-06-09T19:09:36Z")

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[The racist factor](http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A27484-2003Apr15&notFound=true)

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> Emceeing Saturday night’s Best Friends rock-and-roll gala at the Marriott Wardman Park – which raised $800,000 for the 15-year-old charity benefiting inner-city schoolchildren – the Fox News Channel star was trying to fill dead air during a lull in the entertainment.
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> Members of the “Best Men,” as the sixth-to-eighth-grade boys in the program are called, were delayed getting onstage to perform a lip-synced rendition of the Four Tops standard “Reach Out (I’ll Be There).” O’Reilly ad-libbed: “Does anyone know where the Best Men are? I hope they’re not in the parking lot stealing our hubcaps.”
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> “To say that this conservative audience – dominated undoubtedly by many of Mr. O’Reilly’s biggest fans – was aghast, is an understatement,” one attendee e-mailed us, asking for anonymity. “The well-known Republican politicians and their spouses seated at or near my table were appalled.”

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**Author:** ![Hully\_Gully](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7cd45c/32.png) [@Hully\_Gully](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hully_Gully)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-oreilly-is-the-devil-or-is-he/180627/38 "2003-06-09T19:15:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Evil One \*  
> \*\*There are many of us who think that Hillary’s ass is kissed by too many people…including those in the mainstream media. I personally can’t stand her or her politics…so anytime somebody puctures that aura of perfection she trys to maintain, I enjoy every minute of it. \*\*

Okay, hotshot, give me the names of no less then **five** (5) members of the **mainstream media** who _“kiss Hillary’s ass”_ along with true examples of said asskissing.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-oreilly-is-the-devil-or-is-he/180627/39 "2003-06-09T19:16:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Evil One \*  
> There are many of us who think that Hillary’s ass is kissed by too many people…including those in the mainstream media. I personally can’t stand her or her politics…so anytime somebody puctures that aura of perfection she trys to maintain, I enjoy every minute of it.

But kissing George W. Bush’s ass(\*), _that’s_ perfectly acceptable and agreeable to you, isn’t it?

(\* = Just look at that [last press conference](http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030306-8.html) before the Iraq war started, then tell me there isn’t major-league lip-puckering there)

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**Author:** ![Hully\_Gully](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7cd45c/32.png) [@Hully\_Gully](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hully_Gully)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2003, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-oreilly-is-the-devil-or-is-he/180627/40 "2003-06-09T19:29:07Z")

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O’Reilly is also a hypocrite. he has been bleating about the " **boycott of France and any and all things French** that he has supposedly been leading as a form of _“payback”_ :rolleyes: for how cruelly France treated the US over the whole Saddam issue.:rolleyes:

Yet when O’Reilly was in DC last week he had lunch no less then 3 times at a prominent french restaurant.

Bloody vaginal fart.

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