# Bill Richardson Endorses Barack Obama - Start of the Shift??? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 21, 2008, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209 "2008-03-21T11:57:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2008, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/61 "2008-03-22T01:06:40Z")
[QUOTE=Merkwurdigliebe] The Clintons have really done very little for their country that didn’t benefit themselves. Hillary now has to make the choice between herself and her country, and she’s showing just how rotten she is on the inside. [/QUOTE] Remember that old SNL/Eddie Murphy bit: “I’m Gumby, dammit!”? More and more, that springs to mind, with “Hillary” substituted for “Gumby”. ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2008, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/62 "2008-03-22T02:20:01Z")
I said it in another thread and I’ll say it again. Clinton shot her ownself by double talking, calling foul on Obama and then committing the same foul herself - this entire campaign fell through her fingers like sand…too bad she was standing on Obama’s beach. He’s going to make a very good POTUS. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2008, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/63 "2008-03-22T03:03:49Z")
I am glad to see that Bill is trying to bring back the beard on the politician. My wife works as a milliner, and she and her cohorts want to get a hat to Obama and try and get him to bring back the hat since Kennedy killed it. Obama would look swank in a nice hat. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2008, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/64 "2008-03-22T03:19:39Z")
[QUOTE=mswas] I am glad to see that Bill is trying to bring back the beard on the politician. My wife works as a milliner, and she and her cohorts want to get a hat to Obama and try and get him to bring back the hat since Kennedy killed it. Obama would look swank in a nice hat. [/QUOTE] He looks [mighty fine](http://farm1.static.flickr.com/151/400394507_a374d29cd5.jpg) in a cowboy hat, if you ask me. ::drool:: ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2008, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/65 "2008-03-22T03:30:13Z")
[QUOTE=Shayna] He looks [mighty fine](http://farm1.static.flickr.com/151/400394507_a374d29cd5.jpg) in a cowboy hat, if you ask me. ::drool:: [/QUOTE] Whooooooooooooo-eeeeeeeeeeeee!!! Dang, that is HAWT. Maybe, **mswas** , your wife and friends should go to work on Michelle. After all, if she could make him give up smoking to get her to sign on for the campaign, she should have no problem persuading him into a hat. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2008, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/66 "2008-03-22T03:45:16Z")
[QUOTE=Shayna] He looks [mighty fine](http://farm1.static.flickr.com/151/400394507_a374d29cd5.jpg) in a cowboy hat, if you ask me. ::drool:: [/QUOTE] Echoes of Clevon Little in “Blazing Saddles”. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2008, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/67 "2008-03-22T03:52:06Z")
[QUOTE=gaffa] Echoes of Clevon Little in “Blazing Saddles”. [/QUOTE] I was so tempted to inappropriately quote the obvious Lili Von Shtupp line… ---
**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2008, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/68 "2008-03-24T14:06:37Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] I was so tempted to inappropriately quote the obvious Lili Von Shtupp line… [/QUOTE] “Is dat a ten-gallon hat, cowboy, ow aw you zhust enjoying the show?” 😕😕 Oh, _that_ line. . . . ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2008, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/69 "2008-03-24T15:10:26Z")
[QUOTE=Shayna] He looks [mighty fine](http://farm1.static.flickr.com/151/400394507_a374d29cd5.jpg) in a cowboy hat, if you ask me. ::drool:: [/QUOTE] “Is it true how zey say zat you people are… gifted?” ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2008, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/70 "2008-03-24T15:17:18Z")
[QUOTE=Mighty\_Girl] “Is it true how zey say zat you people are… gifted?” [/QUOTE] Just as only Nixon could go to China… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/71 "2008-03-25T00:19:08Z")
[QUOTE=mswas] I am glad to see that Bill is trying to bring back the beard on the politician. My wife works as a milliner, and she and her cohorts want to get a hat to Obama and try and get him to bring back the hat since Kennedy killed it. Obama would look swank in a nice hat. [/QUOTE] You know who else had a beard? [Judas, that’s who!](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080324/ap_on_el_pr/carville_richardson;_ylt=AqGpuwH2uQkgQGR5g_ka5KSs0NUE) :rolleyes: Oy. ---
**Author:** ![SCSimmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@SCSimmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCSimmons)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/72 "2008-03-25T05:09:50Z")
[QUOTE=Love Rhombus] You know who else had a beard? [Judas, that’s who!](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080324/ap_on_el_pr/carville_richardson;_ylt=AqGpuwH2uQkgQGR5g_ka5KSs0NUE) :rolleyes: Oy. [/QUOTE] Oh, _that_ will help. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Santo\_Rugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/73 "2008-03-25T05:33:07Z")
[QUOTE=Love Rhombus] You know who else had a beard? [Judas, that’s who!](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080324/ap_on_el_pr/carville_richardson;_ylt=AqGpuwH2uQkgQGR5g_ka5KSs0NUE) :rolleyes: Oy. [/QUOTE] No wonder she doesn’t fire her staffers when they say things like that. Pretty soon, there’d be none left! :smack: ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/74 "2008-03-25T05:44:06Z")
It’s an interesting take. Endorsements are worth less because they go against favors “owed”? He should have endorsed Hillary even believong that Obama is the better candidate because her husband gave him a job and he did it very well? It implies that her endorsements are less endorsements of who she is and what she is capable of than of favors returned. She got her pound of flesh out of Richardson. He held off endorsing Obama before Super Tuesday and again before Texas. He waited until it was at a point where there was no real chance that she could win and only endorsed as a message that it is time to wind this thing down before it causes serious harm to the Democratic prospects in the Fall. That paid his debt and more. If he came out before Super Tuesday and worked it then he could have made a difference in California and of course in New Mexico. Before Texas and he would have maybe swung the 2 or 3 % that would have given the outright victory there. He may regret not having had enough spine to have done so now. But he doesn’t owe them going against his best judgment of what is best for this country and it is an insult to America to suggest he does. ---
**Author:** ![Digital\_Stimulus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Digital\_Stimulus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Digital_Stimulus)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/75 "2008-03-25T06:09:50Z")
[QUOTE=DSeid] He held off endorsing Obama before Super Tuesday and again before Texas. He waited until it was at a point where there was no real chance that she could win and only endorsed as a message that it is time to wind this thing down before it causes serious harm to the Democratic prospects in the Fall. [/QUOTE] Since I saw Richardson on one of the Sunday morning shows (Meet the Press, I think) and it seems that you did not, I should point out that he said that he was very close to endorsing Hillary, and almost did after he and Bill watched the Superbowl together. “Very persuasive” was how he described Bill. Perhaps that’s a contributing factor to why Carville feels “Judas” is justified? Knowing that they _almost_ had his endorsement, only to have it slip away… ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/76 "2008-03-25T06:27:36Z")
Even if it’s kosher to call it a “betrayal”, ISTM that it can only be “Judas-like” if the person who took the back-stab is Christ-like. On that level alone, Carville’s choice of words didn’t sit well with me. ---
**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/77 "2008-03-25T14:14:07Z")
The correct symbol for a backstabber is Brutus, not Judas. If the Clinton people can’t get their metaphors right, how can they possibly run a country? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/78 "2008-03-25T14:28:29Z")
[QUOTE=BJMoose] The correct symbol for a backstabber is Brutus, not Judas. If the Clinton people can’t get their metaphors right, how can they possibly run a country? 😉 [/QUOTE] They probably prefer the other end of the metaphor, figuring that Hillary is more like Christ than like Caesar. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/79 "2008-03-25T14:40:51Z")
[QUOTE=BobLibDem] They probably prefer the other end of the metaphor, figuring that Hillary is more like Christ than like Caesar. [/QUOTE] I can think of a Shakespearean character other than Caesar she could be… ---
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[QUOTE=jayjay] I can think of a Shakespearean character other than Caesar she could be… [/QUOTE] Richard III? That’s mean. 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209.md?page=5)