# Bill Richardson Endorses Barack Obama - Start of the Shift??? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 21, 2008, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209 "2008-03-21T11:57:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/81 "2008-03-25T14:48:24Z")
Well, we know for sure it isn’t Cleopatra. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/82 "2008-03-25T14:50:00Z")
[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy] Well, we know for sure it isn’t Cleopatra. [/QUOTE] You can bet your asp. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/83 "2008-03-25T14:54:56Z")
[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy] Well, we know for sure it isn’t Cleopatra. [/QUOTE] Wasn’t who I was thinking of, but why not? She IS Queen of De-nile… ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2008, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/84 "2008-03-25T14:58:49Z")
I Caesar point. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2008, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/85 "2008-03-26T20:43:38Z")
[QUOTE=BobLibDem] What the blue blazes are they waiting for anyway? If just 50 were to jump on the bandwagon right now, that would leave Hillary in the hole on states won and popular vote and pledged delegates and superdelegates. They could end this right now if they wanted to. [/QUOTE] Eh, there are still primaries to go. And some Dems actually prefer HRC. Yes, even though Bubba’s past is an embarrassment. Obama’s riding a bubble, & that bubble’s going to pop. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2008, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/86 "2008-03-26T20:45:53Z")
[QUOTE=foolsguinea] Obama’s riding a bubble, & that bubble’s going to pop. [/QUOTE] And you base that on . . . ? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2008, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/87 "2008-03-26T20:47:39Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] I can think of a Shakespearean character other than Caesar she could be… [/QUOTE] Lady Macbeth? [all professional actors lurking perform elaborate and ridiculous rite of bad-luck aversion] ---
**Author:** ![rikc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c57346/32.png) [@rikc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rikc)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2008, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/88 "2008-03-26T20:49:47Z")
Holy crap, those were some great puns. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2008, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/89 "2008-03-26T20:51:56Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] Lady Macbeth? [all professional actors lurking perform elaborate and ridiculous rite of bad-luck aversion] [/QUOTE] “Is this a blogger I see before me?” ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2008, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/90 "2008-03-26T20:52:23Z")
[QUOTE=foolsguinea] Eh, there are still primaries to go. And some Dems actually prefer HRC. Yes, even though Bubba’s past is an embarrassment. Obama’s riding a bubble, & that bubble’s going to pop. [/QUOTE] No doubt. Just like the balloons they let loose during his Inaugural Address. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2008, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/91 "2008-03-26T20:55:39Z")
[QUOTE=foolsguinea] Eh, there are still primaries to go. And some Dems actually prefer HRC. Yes, even though Bubba’s past is an embarrassment. Obama’s riding a bubble, & that bubble’s going to pop. [/QUOTE] May I ask you where she’s going to get enough air to float her bubble? Unlike Karl Rove, we can actually see the real math, which says she cannot overtake him in pledged delegates unless she comes out of all the rest of the primary contests with something like 80% or better numbers. Every one. Isn’t going to happen, especially with TuzlaGate exploding in the news. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/92 "2008-03-27T00:02:13Z")
[QUOTE=Digital Stimulus] Since I saw Richardson on one of the Sunday morning shows (Meet the Press, I think) and it seems that you did not, I should point out that he said that he was very close to endorsing Hillary, and almost did after he and Bill watched the Superbowl together. “Very persuasive” was how he described Bill. Perhaps that’s a contributing factor to why Carville feels “Judas” is justified? Knowing that they _almost_ had his endorsement, only to have it slip away… [/QUOTE] I had not. My assessment was based on reports the weeks before SuperTuesday in which his admiration of Obama (including that debate story) was featured and other reports that claimed that the Clintons were mainly looking for him to stay neutral. FWIW. Will we begin to see more supers moving now, especially as the fruits of divisiveness are becoming more apparent? ---
**Author:** ![Digital\_Stimulus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Digital\_Stimulus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Digital_Stimulus)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/93 "2008-03-27T02:29:50Z")
[QUOTE=DSeid] I had not. My assessment was based on reports the weeks before SuperTuesday in which his admiration of Obama (including that debate story) was featured and other reports that claimed that the Clintons were mainly looking for him to stay neutral. FWIW. [/QUOTE] It seemed that way to me also. Just another reminder that what is presented is not always what is happening behind the scenes. In this case, I think what Richardson said on Meet the Press is probably right. However, I could also envision an argument that he was putting a political spin on it – e.g., add to the impact, curry favor with the candidate he believes is the front runner, etc. Either way, I just wanted to point it out. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2008, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209/94 "2008-03-27T02:34:29Z")
[QUOTE=Merkwurdigliebe] ETA: Hopefully this will be the last “fork” related thread we’ll need, but I fear it won’t. [/QUOTE] We may very well need a “stake” thread at some point. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-richardson-endorses-barack-obama-start-of-the-shift/442209.md?page=4)