# Bill Wyman Erased from Stones Photos **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 25, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-wyman-erased-from-stones-photos/533795 "2010-03-25T20:17:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-wyman-erased-from-stones-photos/533795/1 "2010-03-25T20:17:13Z")
[http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/125781/rolling-stone-erased-from-photographic-history/](http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/125781/rolling-stone-erased-from-photographic-history/) Obviously he displeased Stalin. Or they decided he was _doubleplusungood_. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-wyman-erased-from-stones-photos/533795/2 "2010-03-25T20:24:38Z")
Weirdly he shows up standing next to Michelle Phillips if you scratch Jill Gibson off _The Mamas & the Papas_ album cover.😉 For those who don’t get it: Michelle Phillips was fired from the group the Mamas & the Papas following a huge fight with her recently famous again then husband “Papa” John Phillips in 1966 and replaced with Jill Gibson. Since their second album cover, _The Mamas & the Papas_, had already been photographed using Michelle, Jill was posed identically and her picture was superimposed over Michelle. Later Jill was ousted and Michelle restored. ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-wyman-erased-from-stones-photos/533795/3 "2010-03-25T20:27:39Z")
My guess: Wyman wanted too much money for permission to use his photo on the cover. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-wyman-erased-from-stones-photos/533795/4 "2010-03-25T20:52:51Z")
> [@Walloon](#): > > My guess: Wyman wanted too much money for permission to use his photo on the cover. Exactly - or they wanted to avoid “downstream complications” - probably with a dose of “screw him” mixed in for good measure
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**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-wyman-erased-from-stones-photos/533795/5 "2010-03-26T05:42:11Z")
A variation on when Florence Ballard left Motown to sign with ABC Records, she was prohibited mentioning in promotional material or on the back of her album liner that she had been in the Supremes or recorded for Motown. Despite the fact she was the one who chose the name from a Motown list! > **[Florence Ballard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flo_Ballard)** > > Florence Glenda Chapman (nĂ©e Ballard; June 30, 1943 – February 22, 1976) was an American singer and a founding member of the Motown vocal female group the Supremes. She sang on 16 top 40 singles with the group, including ten number-one hits. After being removed from the Supremes in 1967, Ballard tried an unsuccessful solo career with ABC Records before she was dropped from the label at the end of the decade. > Ballard struggled with alcoholism, depression, and poverty for three years. She was ma... ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-wyman-erased-from-stones-photos/533795/6 "2010-03-26T06:23:09Z")
To be honest, speaking as a photographer, it looks like it could have been done completely for aesthetic reasons. That cover looks much better/cleaner/better focused on Jagger without the clutter of Wyman’s head in there. (It also appears to be compressed horizontally.) So, I’m not necessarily convinced there’s an ulterior motive here, but who knows. ---
**Author:** ![ianzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@ianzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ianzin)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-wyman-erased-from-stones-photos/533795/7 "2010-03-26T12:24:18Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > For those who don’t get it: Michelle Phillips was fired from the group the Mamas & the Papas following a huge fight with her recently famous again then husband “Papa” John Phillips in 1966 and replaced with Jill Gibson. Since their second album cover, _The Mamas & the Papas_, had already been photographed using Michelle, Jill was posed identically and her picture was superimposed over Michelle. Later Jill was ousted and Michelle restored. Just dropping by to say I thought this was a brilliantly succinct summary, and a shining example of the Dope at its best. I particularly enjoyed the density of the noun phrase ‘her recently famous again then husband ‘Papa’ John Phillips’. Excellent stuff, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-wyman-erased-from-stones-photos/533795/8 "2010-03-26T12:36:21Z")
I wonder why the story says that he was obviously digitally removed. He was cropped out, and it appears that no attempt was made to digitally do anything. His guitar neck is still there. And it that actually Bill Wyman? He is playing a six-stringed instrument that looks to be a Stratocaster, and when I blow up the album cover pic it looks more like Ron Wood to me. ---
**Author:** ![kjckjc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e36b37/32.png) [@kjckjc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kjckjc)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-wyman-erased-from-stones-photos/533795/9 "2010-03-26T12:48:11Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > I wonder why the story says that he was obviously digitally removed. He was cropped out, and it appears that no attempt was made to digitally do anything. His guitar neck is still there. > > And it that actually Bill Wyman? He is playing a six-stringed instrument that looks to be a Stratocaster, and when I blow up the album cover pic it looks more like Ron Wood to me. Whoosh? Ok, I will bite. Wyman would be the guy removed behind and to the left of Mick (Mick’s left, right hand side of the cover) on the cover. If he was on the cover. But he isn’t
he was removed. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bill-wyman-erased-from-stones-photos/533795/10 "2010-03-26T12:58:49Z")
> [@kjckjc](#): > > Whoosh? Ok, I will bite. Wyman would be the guy removed behind and to the left of Mick (Mick’s left, right hand side of the cover) on the cover. If he was on the cover. But he isn’t
he was removed. No whoosh, just me being stupid. I probably shouldn’t try any of those puzzles where you’re supposed to pick out differences between two similar pictures today.