# Billy Meier, whats the verdict? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 16, 2013, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000 "2013-09-16T20:03:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![newinitiation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/278dde/32.png) [@newinitiation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newinitiation)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/361 "2013-09-26T05:42:56Z")
> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#): > > Did you not look at the picture with the dinosaur attacking those people? It is also enormous. Scary stuff. Gees I can’t even bring myself to honour the above response as an attempt at a bad joke with a response of my own but I will do so out of common courtesy. You are making a bad comparisons The WCUFO is as real as the two eyeballs you are reading these words with not like that plastic human wrap of a dinosaur BTW you sound like a BOT mimicking a human ---
**Author:** ![newinitiation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/278dde/32.png) [@newinitiation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newinitiation)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/362 "2013-09-26T05:46:01Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > We have an expression here. Whoosh. It’s the sound a joke makes when it flies over the heads of those who don’t get it. > > It may also be the sound that Billy’s fake UFOs make when he throws them in the trash after taking the pictures. How ironic that that very fact has been lost on you but next time I’ll make it less succinct for your pleasure ---
**Author:** ![newinitiation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/278dde/32.png) [@newinitiation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newinitiation)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/363 "2013-09-26T05:47:09Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Well that’s me told. You better believe it ---
**Author:** ![newinitiation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/278dde/32.png) [@newinitiation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newinitiation)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/364 "2013-09-26T05:48:58Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I take all my philosophical guidance from Billy D. Williams. Oh No! ---
**Author:** ![newinitiation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/278dde/32.png) [@newinitiation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newinitiation)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/365 "2013-09-26T05:50:55Z")
> **[Back to the Future with Egg on Their Faces » Billy Meier UFO Contacts](https://theyflyblog.com/2013/09/back-to-the-future-with-egg-on-their-faces/)** > > In another example of going back to the future, science is once again slowly catching up with the information published by UFO contactee Billy Meier. Simply rotate the image presented in the new article in the international science journal, nature,... See people our scientists are slowly catching up with Billy meier’s published information ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/366 "2013-09-26T06:15:23Z")
> [@newinitiation](#): > > Gees I can’t even bring myself to honour the above response as an attempt at a bad joke with a response of my own but I will do so out of common courtesy. > > You are making a bad comparisons > > The WCUFO is as real as the two eyeballs you are reading these words with not like that plastic human wrap of a dinosaur > > BTW you sound like a BOT mimicking a human Wow. That’s not nice. You’re mean. ---
**Author:** ![newinitiation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/278dde/32.png) [@newinitiation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newinitiation)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/367 "2013-09-26T06:52:01Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > Cool story, bro. Unfortunately for you but fortunately for mankind its all true When the day comes and I know it will when Billy Meier’s contact case has been accepted by the majority of people all around the world which people won’t have to wait all that long for, your world will crumble beneath your feet because of the implications it entails. It will simply overwhelm the likes of you who have vehemently denied the truth and by doing so it’ll come back to haunt you all that much more. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/368 "2013-09-26T06:57:16Z")
> [@newinitiation](#): > > The WCUFO is as real as the two eyeballs you are reading these words with not like that plastic human wrap of a dinosaur Shows what you know. My eyes are fully bionic. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/369 "2013-09-26T08:07:56Z")
Wait, are they saying that Meier illegally removed valuable archaeological artifacts from Israel? Because if so, I have a few phone calls to make. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/370 "2013-09-26T11:13:01Z")
> [@newinitiation](#): > > Well how fucking stupid does somebody have to be not to be able to see that the trees in those photos are enormous giving a clear reference to the size of the UFO. Snerk. Can you comment on the UFO crashing into a lone tree in the middle of a big field? I mean, seriously, my 5 year old could pilot a ship well enough to avoid a big tree, though I might have to remind him a few times about not hitting things with Daddy’s Flying Saucer. Then they go and abandon it in the tree, or something? Were they high? I suppose if they smoked a bunch of weed then went tooling around in a fog, they might say “Well, I guess that’s close enough, let’s get some Doritos and call it a night.” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/371 "2013-09-26T11:21:26Z")
> [@newinitiation](#): > > Unfortunately for you but fortunately for mankind its all true > > When the day comes and I know it will when Billy Meier’s contact case has been accepted by the majority of people all around the world which people won’t have to wait all that long for, your world will crumble beneath your feet because of the implications it entails. > > It will simply overwhelm the likes of you who have vehemently denied the truth and by doing so it’ll come back to haunt you all that much more. I’m cowering in the corner of my room at this very moment. Sorry, I’m doubled over with laughter. My mistake. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/372 "2013-09-26T11:29:55Z")
> [@newinitiation](#): > > Well how fucking stupid does somebody have to be not to be able to see that the trees in those photos are enormous giving a clear reference to the size of the UFO. > > Gees They don’t look remotely like enormous trees - look at the branch patterns. Large trees are not just little trees scaled up. At best they’re saplings; at worst they’re models. How stupid do you have to be not to notice that? And that’s ignoring the effect that having a honking great UFO stuck in a tree would have on the tree, but I suppose they could still have the gravitational defurbulator on or something. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/373 "2013-09-26T12:58:47Z")
> [@newinitiation](#): > > When the day comes and I know it will when Billy Meier’s contact case has been accepted by the majority of people all around the world which people won’t have to wait all that long for, your world will crumble beneath your feet because of the implications it entails. Substitute “my favorite woo/conspiracy theory” for “Billy Meier’s contact case” in the above quote and you have the classic comeback of devotees of looniness. “I’ll be vindicated someday and you’ll all be humbled by the Truth!!!” Yeah, don’t forget to call when that magical moment arrives. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/374 "2013-09-26T13:34:10Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Substitute “my favorite woo/conspiracy theory” for “Billy Meier’s contact case” in the above quote and you have the classic comeback of devotees of looniness. > > “I’ll be vindicated someday and you’ll all be humbled by the Truth!!!” Needs more fistshaking and use of the phrase “rue the day”. > [@](#): > > Yeah, don’t forget to call when that magical moment arrives. Who knows - the aliens could pull another switcheroo on him and swap all the evidence with cheesy photos of poor-quality models stuck in fake trees and OH MY GOD THEY’VE ALREADY DONE IT ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/375 "2013-09-26T13:41:06Z")
> [@newinitiation](#): > > When the day comes and I know it will when Billy Meier’s contact case has been accepted by the majority of people all around the world which people won’t have to wait all that long for, your world will crumble beneath your feet because of the implications it entails. Since we’re being all scientific and factual here, why not extrapolate this? Billy Meier has three believers (though you’re probably all paid employees, eh Michael Horn?). In the 10 days you’ve been arguing here, you’ve gained an additional … zero believers. Let’s graph that out. ```auto 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 _____________________________________________ 2 1 0 9/16 9/18 9/20 9/22 9/24 9/26 9/28 9/30 ``` That means that you’ll have the majority of people around the world, um, mumblety seleven, carry the pi, times a dinosaur eating a garbage can lid… sometime after the universe comes to an end. But saying “I told you so” to the endless empty void will no doubt feel as satisfying as your huge victory here. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/376 "2013-09-26T14:56:00Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Since we’re being all scientific and factual here, why not extrapolate this? > > Billy Meier has three believers (though you’re probably all paid employees, eh Michael Horn?). In the 10 days you’ve been arguing here, you’ve gained an additional … zero believers. Let’s graph that out. > > ```auto > > 10 > 9 > 8 > 7 > 6 > 5 > 4 > 3 _____________________________________________ > 2 > 1 > 0 > > 9/16 9/18 9/20 9/22 9/24 9/26 9/28 9/30 > > > ``` > > That means that you’ll have the majority of people around the world, um, mumblety seleven, carry the pi, times a dinosaur eating a garbage can lid… > > sometime after the universe comes to an end. > > But saying “I told you so” to the endless empty void will no doubt feel as satisfying as your huge victory here. Brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![mystic7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecccb3/32.png) [@mystic7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mystic7)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/377 "2013-09-26T15:04:42Z")
Allesan, go ahead and make your call, but you may get in trouble with the CIA and the mousad- they are the ones who destroyed the original TJ scrolls. Now why would the CIA do something like that? Exapno, the ET’s do not teach belief in or worship of anything— such modes of consciousness separate you from reality. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/378 "2013-09-26T15:12:53Z")
> [@mystic7](#): > > Allesan, go ahead and make your call, but you may get in trouble with the CIA and the **mousad** - they are the ones who destroyed the original TJ scrolls. Now why would the CIA do something like that? > > Exapno, the ET’s do not teach belief in or worship of anything— such modes of consciousness separate you from reality. Yeah, those mice will chew on anything. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/379 "2013-09-26T15:23:23Z")
> [@mystic7](#): > > the CIA and the mousad- they are the ones who destroyed the original TJ scrolls. Now why would the CIA do something like that? Boy, that IS odd! Why, I’d say that that is so difficult to wrap my head around that it even sounds like complete bullshit! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/380 "2013-09-26T15:50:09Z")
So lets get the story straight so far. Aliens choose one man to [del]torment[/del] visit. Over the years, they allow him to take photos and film, give him a metal sample and are surprised when he goes public. To teach Earth a lesson, they start ramming trees. Then they sneak in, steal all the film and metal and leave behind forgeries. Billy notices/fails to notice the switch, continues to use the fakes as proof. Then the CIA and Mossad(notice the correct spelling), who have failed 11 times to kill and old man, then steal the fakes and substitute their own. Billy notices/fails to notice the switch, continues to use the new fakes as proof. Is that about right so far? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000.md?page=20)