# Billy Meier, whats the verdict? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 16, 2013, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000 "2013-09-16T20:03:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 61
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/1201 "2013-10-09T18:46:55Z")
> [@mystic7](#): > > Are there professional trolls on this thread trying to discredit the Meier case? Yes, that’s highly likely… Actually, I make so much $$$ from my Big Pharma Overlords for dissing alternative medicine, that I can afford to laugh at Billy Meier and his fans for free. > [@](#): > > If anyone wants to investigate a hoax I recommend the alien abduction phenomenon. This is good - don’t mock my silly claims, mock other people’s silly claims. Not very original, though, since a classic marketing technique of snake oil salesmen is to denigrate the snake oil sold by rivals. ---
**Author:** ![JBDivmstr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@JBDivmstr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JBDivmstr)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/1202 "2013-10-09T19:34:16Z")
I’m just curious as to how much longer the Mods are gonna let this train wreck of a thread go on. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/1203 "2013-10-09T19:38:23Z")
> [@newinitiation](#): > > . . . For very many words and concepts in the German language there exist no kind of words or concepts of equal value in the entire English language . . . Maybe so, but we didn’t have to make up “hand-shoes” to refer to “gloves.” ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/1204 "2013-10-09T19:43:19Z")
> [@JBDivmstr](#): > > I’m just curious as to how much longer the Mods are gonna let this train wreck of a thread go on. 😕 Until it is proved to be trolling or until it breaks out in a serious firefight. One always has the option of declining to open it. ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/1205 "2013-10-09T19:44:37Z")
> [@mystic7](#): > > I repeat, the Meier case cannot be absolutely proven nor can it be absolutely debunked. Anything short of this neutral position is nothing more than a belief. Your position seems far from “neutral”. [QUOTE=mystic7] If anyone wants to investigate a hoax I recommend the alien abduction phenomenon. That’s the one about the little grey aliens abducting humans, stealing their eggs and sperm, and breeding a hybrid race. This hoax was a coordinated disinformation/ deception campaign carried out initially by trolls and counter intelligence agents. [/QUOTE] Well, that can’t be, Semjase told Billy all about abductions in [Contact Report #37:](http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_037) > [@](#): > > Of this i can say: It happened on the 19th of September, in the mountains of New Hampshire in the USA, during the night, when two Earth human beings, by the name of Betty Hill and Barney Hill, a married couple, met with a spaceship of extraterrestrial origin. By oscillation-paralyzers used by the intelligences, their vehicle, an auto, was placed out of function and forced to stop. At the same time both of them were put into a deep hypnosis by telenotical forces. By that their consciousness was paralyzed, by which their conscious recollection was blocked. This I have explained to you before. The purpose of that proceeding by the intelligences was no ill behavior, because their data gathering was only in exploring the Earth human form of life. So they took possession of both Earth human beings for a time of 127 minutes, brought them into their spaceship, and subjected them very thoroughly to their examinations and analyses, while they also took different specimens from both, such as some drops of blood, male sperm, hairs, saliva, finger nails and skin. They took as well, specimens from the shoes and clothing, and from other things too, which were of importance for the analysis of those intelligences. Everything was very carefully examined by them and was recorded radio-photographically. Heretic! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/1206 "2013-10-09T20:01:06Z")
> [@JBDivmstr](#): > > I’m just curious as to how much longer the Mods are gonna let this train wreck of a thread go on. 😕 Personally, I enjoy watching a contortionist. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/1207 "2013-10-09T20:05:15Z")
Can I just say that if there are any intelligence operatives monitoring this thread, that I would like to apply for the position of professional troll, and am willing to hate Billy Meier for fairly reasonable rates. For minimum wage, I’d be willing to muster up some pretty damn severe annoyance at the guy for at least five hours a day. Beyond that, I’m willing to negotiate. My CV is my posting history here on this site. I look forward to working with you. ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/1208 "2013-10-09T20:09:24Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Can I just say that if there are any intelligence operatives monitoring this thread, that I would like to apply for the position of professional troll, and am willing to hate Billy Meier for fairly reasonable rates. For minimum wage, I’d be willing to muster up some pretty damn severe annoyance at the guy for at least five hours a day. Beyond that, I’m willing to negotiate. > > My CV is my posting history here on this site. > > I look forward to working with you. If they’re paying their assassins minimum wage too, that could explain being 0-for-22 on attempts to silence ol’ Billy. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/1209 "2013-10-09T20:13:35Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Can I just say that if there are any intelligence operatives monitoring this thread, that I would like to apply for the position of professional troll, and am willing to hate Billy Meier for fairly reasonable rates. For minimum wage, I’d be willing to muster up some pretty damn severe annoyance at the guy for at least five hours a day. Beyond that, I’m willing to negotiate. > > My CV is my posting history here on this site. > > I look forward to working with you. Do you have any work experience as a hater-for-hire ? Referrals from past employers ? Do you have a formal, post-graduate formation or at least a GED-equivalent diploma focusing on virulent hatred, or did you teach yourself ? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/1210 "2013-10-09T20:16:03Z")
And to think, all my life I’ve been hating _for free._ :smack: ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/1211 "2013-10-09T20:19:52Z")
> [@Human\_Action](#): > > If they’re paying their assassins minimum wage too, that could explain being 0-for-22 on attempts to silence ol’ Billy. You know what they say, 23rd time’s the charm. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/1212 "2013-10-09T20:26:06Z")
Will hate for food. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/1213 "2013-10-09T20:26:49Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > And to think, all my life I’ve been hating _for free._ :smack: I once read a joke about that. A Jewish man moves into a new neighborhood. The children all gather around him and yell “Dirty Jew! Dirty Jew!”. Naturally, he dislikes this. So, he goes to his rabbi for advice. The next day, the children all gather around him and he says “Who ever calls me a dirty Jew today, gets five bucks!”. The children all call him dirty Jew and he gives each one a five dollar bill. This goes on for a while. Then, the man says “Times are tough. From now on, anybody who calls me a dirty Jew only gets one dollar.” The children all call him a dirty Jew and he gives each of them a dollar. After a while, he reduces the payment to a quarter. Finally, he says “Business hasn’t been so good. I can no longer afford to pay you.” The children say “What? You expect us to call you a dirty Jew for free?”. So they stopped calling him a dirty Jew. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/1214 "2013-10-09T21:11:45Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Do you have any work experience as a hater-for-hire ? Referrals from past employers ? Do you have a formal, post-graduate formation or at least a GED-equivalent diploma focusing on virulent hatred, or did you teach yourself ? Ooooh, I hate you SO MUCH RIGHT NOW. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/1215 "2013-10-09T21:13:31Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Ooooh, I hate you SO MUCH RIGHT NOW. Giving it away free ruins it for the rest of us. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/1216 "2013-10-09T21:14:27Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Ooooh, I hate you SO MUCH RIGHT NOW. Next time, more emphasis on the HATE. Amateur. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/1217 "2013-10-09T21:39:09Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Ooooh, I hate you SO MUCH RIGHT NOW. Hmm. That might do, but no promises. Don’t call us, we’ll send our fluidal consciousness at you. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/1218 "2013-10-09T21:53:09Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Do you have a formal, post-graduate formation? What the hell is a post-graduate formation? Is it the reason the Giants are 0-5? ---
**Author:** ![akwally1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akwally1/32/3220_2.png) [@akwally1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/akwally1)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/1219 "2013-10-09T23:10:07Z")
First off, props to **Newinitiation** for hanging in there this long. This has to be some kind of Dope record for highest percentage of posts per thread, but you are sticking in there and giving (some) answers. Secondly, if you’re a catholic, you’d better stay away from streams. From the [prognostications of BEAM](http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_215): 1. After the turn of the millennium, the papacy will exist only a short period. 2. Pope John Paul II is the third from last in this position. 3. After him, only one additional pontificate will follow. 4. Then a Pontifex Maximus follows who will be known as Petrus Romanus. 5. Under his religious rule, the end of the Catholic Church will come, a total collapse becoming inevitable. 6. That will be the beginning of the worst catastrophe that will ever have befallen the human beings and the Earth. 7. Many Catholic clerics, priests, bishops, cardinals and many others will be killed and their blood will flow in streams. Admittedly, I’m not really up on my popes, but aren’t we on the Pontifex Maximus now? So this should be a great time for Billy’s predictions to be proven correct. Right? I wonder if the great misplaced-magma incident in the Vatican will kick this whole thing off? Mark ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2013, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000/1220 "2013-10-09T23:14:29Z")
> [@akwally1](#): > > . > > Admittedly, I’m not really up on my popes, but aren’t we on the Pontifex Maximus now? So this should be a great time for Billy’s predictions to be proven correct. Right? I wonder if the great misplaced-magma incident in the Vatican will kick this whole thing off? > > Mark According to the book _Apocalypse Wow!_, with anti popes and hidden popes, we may have run past the last pope prophesied by Malachy two popes ago. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000.md?page=60) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/billy-meier-whats-the-verdict/669000.md?page=62)