# bin Laden is dead? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 2, 2011, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436 "2011-05-02T02:46:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/181 "2011-05-02T18:53:04Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > You’re fucking kidding me, right? You are both stupid and uneducated. First of all, Abbotabad is not “west bubble fuck”. It’s an affluent suburb of Islamabad. Second, the POTUS doesn’t use email or cell phones either, and yet, you don’t accuse him of being unable to direct operations and formulate policies. > > Seriously, are you just joking or are you actually the dumbest motherfucker on the face of the Earth? No, the dumbest motherfucker on Earth would be you, you inbred sack of shit. He might as well have been on the fucking moon for all the harm he could do us. AL Qaeda is broken thanks to the shirt storm we brought. He was essentially isolated, as the reports have been pointing out. I don’t know about you, but I don’t go around losing any sleep over some angry Muslim guy with an outdated rifle 8,000 miles away. As a symbol, he might have been a bit dangerous, but if that’s the case, as a martyr he will be even more dangerous now. Also, go fuck yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/182 "2011-05-02T18:59:03Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Come on, guys. Do you really not think Rush hammering over and over that only Obama and none, hear me NONE!, of his military advisers thought of a special forces attack was perhaps intended as sarcastic? Perhaps. I may have been too busy picking my jaw up from the floor to notice. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/183 "2011-05-02T19:03:27Z")
> [@Kinthalis](#): > > No, the dumbest motherfucker on Earth would be you, you inbred sack of shit. > > He might as well have been on the fucking moon for all the harm he could do us. > > AL Qaeda is broken thanks to the shirt storm we brought. He was essentially isolated, as the reports have been pointing out. > > I don’t know about you, but I don’t go around losing any sleep over some angry Muslim guy with an outdated rifle 8,000 miles away. > > As a symbol, he might have been a bit dangerous, but if that’s the case, as a martyr he will be even more dangerous now. > > Also, go fuck yourself. Clearly you have an astute and technical level of expertise on this topic. We should all listen carefully to your analysis. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/184 "2011-05-02T19:04:29Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Clearly you have an astute and technical level of expertise on this topic. We should all listen carefully to your analysis. I would particularly like to hear more about this “shirt storm.” ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/185 "2011-05-02T19:05:53Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > This story has the smell of bullshit all over. Considering how a totally hollow claim like his Kenyan/Atlantean birth is still running, the Obama administration has some serious work to do here to clear it, cause it really smells fishy. The SEALs were reportedly the ops who carried out this mission. For an example of their previous work, keep in mind that these were the guys who rescued the captain of the \*Mersck Alabama \* while he was in a tiny lifeboat, and they were prone on the deck of a ship, while both craft bounced around on moderate swells. When they got the chance, the SEALs took out the three remaining pirates despite the conditions with one shot each. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/186 "2011-05-02T19:06:46Z")
> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > I would particularly like to hear more about this “shirt storm.” You are ignorant about the plan to flood the middle east with pastel Izod’s and left-over Ocean Pacific t-shirts? It was a devastating blow to fundamentalists who reject all things western. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/187 "2011-05-02T19:16:33Z")
When I saw the cheering I was uncomfortable…cncomfortable because I knew there would be some folks expressing their “concerns” over the celebrations of the killing of a mass murderer…a murderer of men, women,k children, elderly…christians, Jjews, Muslims, Buddhists, Athiests…bnlack, white, asian, hispanic…We set out and killed a specific mepratrator of a deliberate act of evil, we are not celebrating the mindless killing of an innocent or inoocents or people without discretion. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/188 "2011-05-02T19:24:48Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Well, suppose they did take out Osama with a drone attack, but decided to make up the stuff about a commando raid in order to not chafe local sensitivities. Why would I care, none of our people were killed, no civilian casualties, what’s not to love? > > Mine is a lively intelligence, but not a unique one, if that thought occurs to me, good bet it will occur to somebody else. I’m not an expert at this stuff but I think we had enough intelligence and preparations in place that we were SURE things would go off without a hitch. I am pretty sure that Obama wasn’t going to risk something like what happened to Delta Force during the Iran hostage crisis. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/189 "2011-05-02T19:27:15Z")
The question about the use of drones was answered, the location of the compound made that untenable, as well as the presence of non-combatants. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/190 "2011-05-02T19:33:22Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > When I saw the cheering I was uncomfortable…cncomfortable because I knew there would be some folks expressing their “concerns” over the celebrations of the killing of a mass murderer…a murderer of men, women,k children, elderly…christians, Jjews, Muslims, Buddhists, Athiests…bnlack, white, asian, hispanic…We set out and killed a specific mepratrator of a deliberate act of evil, we are not celebrating the mindless killing of an innocent or inoocents or people without discretion. Exactly. Americans should be proud and joining in celebration over our having finally located and killed Osama bin Laden. Some posters have expressed dismay at seeing crowds of Americans celebrating his death like crowds in other countries have done upon learning of attacks on us, but it should be remembered that we aren’t cheering terrorist attacks that deliberately target innocent citizens, we are cheering having gotten the person who did that to us. Osama bin Laden is directly or indirectly responsible for all the lives lost, both ours and Arab, not only in the attacks of 9/11 but in the Afghanistan and Iraqi wars and in terrorist attacks committed by al-Qaeda in most other regions of the globe. Hundreds of thousands of people all over the globe are dead - many of them totally innocent - who wouldn’t be dead had bin-Laden died as a young man. So cheering that asshole’s death is not only understandable but justified and appropriate. (And I, for one, am glad that bin-Laden lived long enough to know it was coming. According to reports, the assault took around forty minutes, with the SEALS clearing rooms in the house floor by floor, with bin-Laden killed on the top floor only during the last five or ten minutes. So for half an hour he knew his fate was at hand. Most gratifying.) ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/191 "2011-05-02T19:43:41Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > mepratrator Band name! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/192 "2011-05-02T20:26:50Z")
> [@margin](#): > > When they got the chance, the SEALs took out the three remaining pirates despite the conditions with one shot each. I can’t shoot worth a damn at a stationary target on land. That was quite impressive to me. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/193 "2011-05-02T20:29:32Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Clearly you have an astute and technical level of expertise on this topic. We should all listen carefully to your analysis. I also was hoping to eventually see OBL and Obama hug it out on live TV. At any rate, the poor man deserved a nice gift basket with a “let’s let bygones be bygones!” note attached. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/194 "2011-05-02T20:41:51Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I also was hoping to eventually see OBL and Obama hug it out on live TV. At any rate, the poor man deserved a nice gift basket with a “let’s let bygones be bygones!” note attached. OBL: Who is it? Voice behind door: Candy-gram… ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/195 "2011-05-02T20:44:20Z")
Obama had hoped to clear up this mess with a beer summit, but bin Laden turned down the invite. ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/196 "2011-05-02T20:48:15Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I can’t shoot worth a damn at a stationary target on land. That was quite impressive to me. Yeah, you get some training on predicting movement and aiming for it----but that’s basic marksmanship, and in this case both the platform the SEALs were on _and_ the little lifeboat were bouncing around at different times. It was _impressive_, to say the least. And then they packed up and choppered off, unnamed and unknown. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/197 "2011-05-02T20:57:38Z")
[And the spin begins…](http://townhall.com/political-cartoons/brianfarrington/2011/05/02/87281) ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/198 "2011-05-02T21:05:14Z")
> [@Jenaroph](#): > > [And the spin begins…](http://townhall.com/political-cartoons/brianfarrington/2011/05/02/87281) Pathetic… ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/199 "2011-05-02T21:26:23Z")
Your link bitch-rolled me into an ad prominently displaying Ann Coulter. Typically, an episode like this takes about fifty dollars worth of chronic and a bottle of Jameson’s to expunge. I’ll bill you. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/200 "2011-05-02T21:27:11Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Your link bitch-rolled me into an ad prominently displaying Ann Coulter. Typically, an episode like this takes about fifty dollars worth of chronic and a bottle of Jameson’s to expunge. I’ll bill you. And this differs from your usual Monday night how? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436.md?page=11)