# bin Laden is dead?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 2, 2011, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436 "2011-05-02T02:46:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/81 "2011-05-02T05:59:12Z")

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This could be just the break the McCain campaign needs.

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**Author:** ![Cyberhwk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Cyberhwk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyberhwk)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/82 "2011-05-02T06:28:40Z")

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> [@fluiddruid](#):
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> [What's the Over/Under on the Number of Muslim Who Will Die in the Resultant Riots?](http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2713400/posts)

> [@](#):
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> … it will probably be detrimtnal to Obama in teh long run.

😃

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/83 "2011-05-02T06:40:58Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> One bit of discomfort. The Prez was emphatic about the operation being carried out by military personnel, special forces. Which is understandable, given the unpopularity of Robowar amongst the hearts and minds. But they attacked a cluster of violent and well-armed terrorists, direct combat with small arms, and had no casualties? Remarkable.

You hadn’t heard? Under this Admin, “Special Forces” is a military euphemism for “Zombie Squad.” (What, you thought those posters of Obama as a witch-doctor were photoshopped?)

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**Author:** ![3\_20\_59\_or\_bust](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/47e85d/32.png) [@3\_20\_59\_or\_bust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3_20_59_or_bust)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/84 "2011-05-02T06:56:34Z")

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> [@Michael\_Ellis](#):
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> You know what you should do? You should go to the middle of Times Square and shout this.
> 
> Or alternatively, just move your head around a bit. You’ll probably puncture something and hopefully develop fatal peritonitis.  
> Seriously though, you’ve very very wrong. If well intentioned.

Thanks for the well-wishes, but I like my head mostly non-punctured.

And I’m not sure there’s really a “right” or “wrong” when it comes to public death celebrations, just different opinions. I’ll keep mine and won’t even shout it in any square.

Maybe you could do the same.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/85 "2011-05-02T07:35:52Z")

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> [@3\_20\_59\_or\_bust](#):
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> Thanks for the well-wishes, but I like my head mostly non-punctured.
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> And I’m not sure there’s really a “right” or “wrong” when it comes to public death celebrations, just different opinions. I’ll keep mine and won’t even shout it in any square.
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> Maybe you could do the same.

pssst… he wasn’t suggesting your _head_ would get punctured - that’s not where you get peritonitis. He was suggesting you were currently performing craniorectal insertion.

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**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/86 "2011-05-02T07:46:14Z")

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I’m pretty sure that the last thing that went through Bin Ladens mind was a 7.62mm round…

Declan

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**Author:** ![dba\_Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c37758/32.png) [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/87 "2011-05-02T07:55:27Z")

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But will Obama have the body sent to Gitmo for waterboarding? :dubious:  
Bush woulda.😉

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/88 "2011-05-02T08:35:08Z")

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> [@3\_20\_59\_or\_bust](#):
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> No, I agree with you. I mean, good riddance and all, but I’m not about to go shoot fireworks.
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> Seeing photos of a big, cheering, U.S. mob just seems wrong. I hate when I see other countries do it, and I sure don’t want us to do it.

They cheered when the towers fell. They danced in the streets and passed candy out to the children. Osama was given a chance to surrender, with the understanding that they were taking him dead or alive either way. The people who were killed on 9/11 never had a chance, never had a warning. I’m too much of an introvert to make a spectacle out of myself in the middle of the street, but I have no problem with the people cheering in front of the White House and at Ground Zero. I’m with them in spirit.

As Kyle and Stan said in “South Park,” if you can’t root for the home team, you may as well get the hell out of the stadium.

No disrespect meant to anyone here of the Islamic faith. I know we made a point of burying bin Laden in accordance with Muslim law and I can respect that. He deserved no honors, but he doesn’t deserve having his body desecrated, either. I believe in showing the world we can even treat our enemies without gratuitous disrespect. But I can’t help but thinking we flushed him like a common goldfish. He didn’t deserve any better than that. And his death doesn’t deserve quiet contemplation on our part, either. We gave our reverence and our silence to the victims in the days after 9/11. They were more deserving of it.

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**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/89 "2011-05-02T08:37:26Z")

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> [@Gukumatz](#):
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> I saw this discussed on another site, as well. The consensus seemed to be:
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> 1. This was a completely All-Stars Special Forces operation.
> 2. The compound was not on any special alert.
> 3. The attack happened during the night.
> 4. It was a very quick smash, grab and run operation, with helicopters standing by.
> 5. Bin Laden probably had no reason to believe his cover had been made.

And- his house was blown up on the way out the door and he was buried at sea (in the Islamic tradition?) to prevent any shrines being build to him. Nice detail work!

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/90 "2011-05-02T09:05:36Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Obama announcing bin Laden’s dead? Very clever. I suppose some people will maybe start to think Obama’s not a muslim after all, but we know better, don’t we?

I’ll believe bin Laden’s dead when we see the death certificate. The long form death certificate, Goddamn it.

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**Author:** ![Claude\_Remains](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@Claude\_Remains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claude_Remains)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/91 "2011-05-02T10:09:38Z")

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Buried at sea? I smell a fuckin bullshit story. Why in fuck would the body not be put on display? Ya know, as… proof or somthing? All we have is some bullshit story?

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**Author:** ![Cort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/77aa72/32.png) [@Cort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cort)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/92 "2011-05-02T10:14:46Z")

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It’s amazing what you Americans can do when the PS3 network is down 😉

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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/93 "2011-05-02T10:18:27Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Has anyone verified the location of Chuck Norris in the last couple of days?

I was thinking that it was too much of a coincidence that 24 got canceled and then we got this news.

Obviously they needed Jack Bauer for something more important than being on TV shows.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/94 "2011-05-02T11:17:40Z")

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The Devil has a new fucktoy.

And I’m good with that.

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**Author:** ![Gleena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b3f665/32.png) [@Gleena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gleena)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/95 "2011-05-02T11:37:10Z")

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> [@Sierra\_Indigo](#):
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> I want to argue with you, but the fuckwits on my friend list are vociferously proving otherwise.

You and I must run in the same Boganified circles.

My god people are stupid.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/96 "2011-05-02T11:37:15Z")

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> [@Jragon](#):
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> I agree that I don’t think we should celebrate anyone’s death, and I’ll throw Hitler, Mao, Stalin etc etc into this mix. I mean, we can celebrate them changing their minds, or getting captured. We can even celebrate the direct consequence that their death means that they won’t be harming anyone anymore. But to me celebrating their death just fuels too much of a cycle. I’m glad that he can’t harm anyone anymore, and I’m somewhat abstractly glad that he got a form of comeuppance and didn’t just walk away free, but I can’t in good faith celebrate that any human is dead.
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> Now, that’s not to say we shouldn’t have killed him, I’m not shedding any tears over that. I have no objection to taking military action against someone when it’s necessary or would result in a greater good. Him dying, and us killing him is totally, perfectly fine on every level. It’s just I don’t think the reaction and celebration is proper.

How nice for you. Now hold one of my beers while I pump my fist in the air and shout for joy.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/97 "2011-05-02T11:51:59Z")

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I don’t believe that all the celebrants were there for the sake of second-hand blood lust and macho posturing. Some significant portion of the crowd gathered to express the joy that only justice can releases.

And a roughly equal percentage were guys looking to get laid. (Hey, it’s life-affirming).

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/98 "2011-05-02T12:15:27Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> [Moderating]  
> …wishing death on other posters is against the rules of the board. Do not do this again.  
> [/Moderating]

Just checking…UBL never posted on this board, did he? 🙂

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/99 "2011-05-02T12:16:22Z")

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One warlord kills another. Could be a made for TV movie maybe? Just gotta work in a love triangle involving a U.S. special forces soldier, his wife, and a Pakistan woman who is also an Al-Qaeda spy.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bin-laden-is-dead/580436/100 "2011-05-02T12:29:22Z")

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One shot to the head? That’s up close and personal. Navy seals get it done!

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