# BIOLOGY 101--an oral sex tale **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 24, 2002, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biology-101-an-oral-sex-tale/99843 "2002-03-24T10:32:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![tighthead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@tighthead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tighthead)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2002, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biology-101-an-oral-sex-tale/99843/21 "2002-03-24T23:22:31Z")
> [@](#): > > An 18 year old 11th grader is at least 1 year (possibly 2) behind in school. AND he’s a football player. Probably not the sharpest pencil in the drawer. Yes, because football players are all as thick as pigshit. JB ---
**Author:** ![abuse\_angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d07c76/32.png) [@abuse\_angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/abuse_angel)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2002, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biology-101-an-oral-sex-tale/99843/22 "2002-03-24T23:31:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tadc \* > \*\*An 18 year old 11th grader is at least 1 year (possibly 2) behind in school. AND he’s a football player. Probably not the sharpest pencil in the drawer. 🙂 \*\* not necessarily true. my brother was 18 in the 11th grade, and was not behind in school. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2002, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biology-101-an-oral-sex-tale/99843/23 "2002-03-24T23:32:20Z")
> [@](#): > > Would recieving a bj from a minor constitute “felony carnal knowlege”? Seems like it would have to be the other way around. Bill Clinton notwithstanding, because the girl was under 15 and the guys were more than two years older, it IS a felony in Louisiana. Oral counts. ---
**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2002, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biology-101-an-oral-sex-tale/99843/24 "2002-03-24T23:39:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by samclem \* > \*\* > > Bill Clinton notwithstanding, because the girl was under 15 and the guys were more than two years older, it IS a felony in Louisiana. Oral counts. \*\* Way to spin off topic with an irrelevant Bill Clinton non sequitur. ---
**Author:** ![tadc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f07891/32.png) [@tadc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tadc)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2002, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biology-101-an-oral-sex-tale/99843/25 "2002-03-24T23:43:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by abuse angel \* > \*\* > not necessarily true. my brother was 18 in the 11th grade, and was not behind in school. \*\* Beg to differ… not knowing the specifics of course, but how does one get to be 18 in 11th grade without A)failing/being held back/otherwise missing a year or B) starting late? Either way you’re behind in school. ---
**Author:** ![tighthead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@tighthead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tighthead)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2002, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biology-101-an-oral-sex-tale/99843/26 "2002-03-24T23:56:19Z")
> [@](#): > > Beg to differ… not knowing the specifics of course, but how does one get to be 18 in 11th grade without A)failing/being held back/otherwise missing a year or B) starting late? Either way you’re behind in school. However, your original comment was that as he was 18 in 11th Grade AND a football player, he was probably \*\* not the sharpest tool in the shed \*\*. He could have fallen behind any number of ways, including illness, moving interstate/intercountry among others. JB ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biology-101-an-oral-sex-tale/99843/27 "2002-03-25T00:14:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Enderw24 \* > They’re guilty (or could be) of statutory rape. Statutory rape means that the minor girl cannot, legally, ever say “yes.” She could be the aggressor, she could tie him down, she could be on top, she could yell “yeeehaw! giddieeup horsey!” and she has still never given legal consent to have sex. \*\* I agree with those who say we don’t have enough to go on in order to make a final judgement. But responding to your above statement, consent might not be an issue here. It is entirely possible that fellatio occured without any action, solicitation or promotion on the part of these boys. Are you a party to assault because you were knifed by a 14 year old. Granted, these boys might have enjoyed it. Also, in many jurisdictions, as I remember there are provisions for 14 year olds to legally consent in many states, at least through marriage, and statutory rape laws have exclusions for older minors. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biology-101-an-oral-sex-tale/99843/28 "2002-03-25T00:15:02Z")
Hmmm, dammit, my high school was so boring! ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biology-101-an-oral-sex-tale/99843/29 "2002-03-25T00:35:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by grienspace \* > It is entirely possible that fellatio occured without any action, solicitation or promotion on the part of these boys. Uh, I’m confused. Please give a scenario where a 14 year old girl is able to perform oral sex on two football players, several years her senior, without “any action, solicitation, or promotion” on their part. What? Were they utterly powerless and helpless? I have a really hard time imagining such a scenario. > [@](#): > > statutory rape laws have exclusions for older minors. That may (_may_) be applicable for the 17 year old, but certainly not for the 18 year old. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biology-101-an-oral-sex-tale/99843/30 "2002-03-25T01:33:53Z")
> [@](#): > > Way to spin off topic with an irrelevant Bill Clinton non sequitur. _Au contraire_ I think I was totally on topic. Whether you like it or not, the English language will forever remember and use Mr. Clinton’s now-famous response to whether he had sex or not. And it was certainly not a **non-sequitur**. It certainly followed from the previous discussion. Plus, as a Liberal Democrat, I can say anything I please. So 😛 ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biology-101-an-oral-sex-tale/99843/31 "2002-03-25T02:02:39Z")
For the legally challenged, please read the following statute from Louisiana. [http://lapda.org/1999\_laws.htm](http://lapda.org/1999_laws.htm) This is as of 2001, so I have no doubt that it is current. Forget about **statutory rape**. They weren’t charged with that. Forget about whether the boys were the aggressors or the victims. **It doesn’t make any difference**. There isn’t any provision for a 14-year-old to consent, unless she was married to one of the boys. What is so hard to understand about what they were charged with and the law? ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biology-101-an-oral-sex-tale/99843/32 "2002-03-25T03:52:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by yosemitebabe \* > \*\* > > Uh, I’m confused. Please give a scenario where a 14 year old girl is able to perform oral sex on two football players, several years her senior, without “any action, solicitation, or promotion” on their part. What? Were they utterly powerless and helpless? I have a really hard time imagining such a scenario.\*\* 14 year old girl: I’m bored football player #1: Yeah. football player #2: Me too. 14: What’s taking the teacher so long to copy those tests? fp #1: I dunno. fp #2: Me too. 14: Want a BJ to pass the time? fp #1: Sure. fp #2: Me too. Okay, I doubt I happened like that, but like many of us have pointed out many freshmen girls date senior guys and have no problem with being sexual with them. IANApsychologist (yet), but I can visualize this girl as one that got around (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) for whatever reason (sexual abuse as a child, love of the attention from being the class slut, etc.) and wanted to top herself and any other sluts in the school. I know the type, but I haven’t heard any stories that bad. ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biology-101-an-oral-sex-tale/99843/33 "2002-03-25T03:58:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by drayton \* > 14 year old girl: I’m bored > football player #1: Yeah. > football player #2: Me too. > 14: What’s taking the teacher so long to copy those tests? > fp #1: I dunno. > fp #2: Me too. > 14: Want a BJ to pass the time? > fp #1: Sure. > fp #2: Me too. This scenario sounds _extremely_ unlikely, but if it didn’t happen that way, isn’t the “Me too” and “Sure” from the football players enough of a “promotion”? They made a conscious _choice_ to consent - they could have said “no”, but instead said “Sure”. ---
**Author:** ![Albert\_Rose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Albert\_Rose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Albert_Rose)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biology-101-an-oral-sex-tale/99843/34 "2002-03-25T04:06:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by grienspace \* > **Why I’ll bet the reason the teacher didn’t intervene is that she might have had something on him.** What do you mean by this? ---
**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biology-101-an-oral-sex-tale/99843/35 "2002-03-25T04:08:21Z")
So I too would be on topic, samclem, if you told you to **blow me**? ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biology-101-an-oral-sex-tale/99843/36 "2002-03-25T04:41:43Z")
**Waverly** Unfortunately, I’m not up on how the law views **solicitation** as regards the internet. I would think that it might be a crime in some states. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jsleek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8dc957/32.png) [@jsleek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsleek)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biology-101-an-oral-sex-tale/99843/37 "2002-03-25T04:44:32Z")
About a thousand years ago, when I was in high school, us guys had deep discussions on what we know nothing. That is, girls and sex. There were two philosophical viewpoints: “Girls are like potatoes. When they’re big enough, they’re old enough.” vs “It’s warm and pink inside her, but grey and cold inside jail.” I did not understand what these phrases meant. Like every other male, these guys were thinking with the wrong head. But don’t worry. The judge will understand that boys will be boys. ---
**Author:** ![Sue\_Duhnym](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/91b2a8/32.png) [@Sue\_Duhnym](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sue_Duhnym)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biology-101-an-oral-sex-tale/99843/38 "2002-03-25T05:08:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Waverly \* > So I too would be on topic, samclem, if you told you to **blow me**? **snort** ---
**Author:** ![Hosayf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/2acd7d/32.png) [@Hosayf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hosayf)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biology-101-an-oral-sex-tale/99843/39 "2002-03-25T05:19:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Minor Irritant \* > \*\*Sigh…the most interesting thing that ever happened in my science classes was that time Kyle Hanemaayer burnt his eyebrows off… > > _This_ high school student has never heard of anything like this happening on school property. I just run with the wrong crowd, I guess. > > Perhaps the fact that the boys are football players is why this was allowed to go unpunished for a few days, before sombody blew the whistle (no pun intended). That may be the insinuation in the headline. \*\* I’m certainly not in the crowd where this goes on I just know that one of my friends saw a guy making odd faces in a stall and having trouble keeping his balance. (he saw his head over the top of the door), and then as he was walking out he noticed a girl coming out of the stall with the guy. I also have heard rumors of other incidents. Of course maybe it’s only common at my school (which would not surprise me in the least). ---
**Author:** ![Heloise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e36b37/32.png) [@Heloise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heloise)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2002, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biology-101-an-oral-sex-tale/99843/40 "2002-03-25T10:46:08Z")
Sounds like grienspace got caught with his pants down with a minor she-vixen and is still angry about it. Bitter much? Would you like to share? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biology-101-an-oral-sex-tale/99843.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biology-101-an-oral-sex-tale/99843.md?page=3)