# Birds of Prey tonight. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 9, 2002, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birds-of-prey-tonight/131571 "2002-10-09T19:07:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Simetra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Simetra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simetra)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2002, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birds-of-prey-tonight/131571/1 "2002-10-09T19:07:13Z")
Anyone looking forward to it like I am? I think it’s a neat premise and tho’ it has the potential to suck royally by being entirely too melodramatic, it could also be really really good. Basically, stick with the gothic and leave the teen out of it. Anyway, [Birds of Prey](http://www.thewb.com/Shows/Show/0%2c7353%2c%7C%7C1002%2c00.html) is on the WB at 9/8 tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Kilt-wearin\_man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/82dd89/32.png) [@Kilt-wearin\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kilt-wearin_man)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2002, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birds-of-prey-tonight/131571/2 "2002-10-09T19:51:31Z")
I’m curious…I’ll reserve judgement until I see how much they’ve screwed the characters up. What back-story I’ve heard so far doesn’t sound promising for a comics fan like me…but they might salvage a good show out of it. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2002, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birds-of-prey-tonight/131571/3 "2002-10-09T20:45:27Z")
Crap, and I thought this was about the Romulans. What’s the skinny? ---
**Author:** ![Simetra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Simetra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simetra)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2002, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birds-of-prey-tonight/131571/4 "2002-10-09T20:51:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \* > \*\*What’s the skinny? \*\* Full story’s at the link, but basically, Batman disappears from Gotham City and Batgirl takes over for him. She somehow gets injured tho’ so she trains Batman’s illegitimate daughter to fight for her. They find some other girl to help and call themselves the Birds of Prey. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2002, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birds-of-prey-tonight/131571/5 "2002-10-09T21:07:43Z")
Ooo That sounds bad. ---
**Author:** ![kasuo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8c91f0/32.png) [@kasuo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kasuo)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2002, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birds-of-prey-tonight/131571/6 "2002-10-09T21:17:51Z")
But girlies are gonna be running around kicking ass! ---
**Author:** ![bafaa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e480ec/32.png) [@bafaa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bafaa)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2002, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birds-of-prey-tonight/131571/7 "2002-10-09T23:59:27Z")
I’m hoping for the best but I think it’s gonna be terrible. I’m watching anyway just to see Dina Meyer. I love you Dina! (insert swooning smilie) ---
**Author:** ![cthulhuCultist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cthulhuCultist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cthulhuCultist)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birds-of-prey-tonight/131571/8 "2002-10-10T00:02:48Z")
I even have a friend coming over tonight to watch it at my place. She’s a comic geek, and has high hopes… But I’m prepared to hear the Giant Sucking Sound coming from the city of Gotham. ---
**Author:** ![Simetra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Simetra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simetra)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birds-of-prey-tonight/131571/9 "2002-10-10T02:42:48Z")
Alright… so it was campy. I still like it and it still has promise. \ ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birds-of-prey-tonight/131571/10 "2002-10-10T03:41:04Z")
It has the best city landscape scenes ever, so pretty, probably computer animated 🙂 I liked it better than any other new show I’ve watched this season, so I’m going to keep watching for at least a while. I can’t believe who the “bad” woman is though… [spoilers] according to the Fall Special TV guide blurb on the show, it’s Harley Quinn. Eek! I’ve always liked her character, so this will be different [/spoilers] Given that I’m not familiar with this series, unlike various Batman incarnations, I don’t have any expectations that’ll be shattered if they stray from the comic’s plot…which is probably what they want in a viewer! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birds-of-prey-tonight/131571/11 "2002-10-10T05:35:17Z")
Longtime DC fans will recognize the name “Dinah Lance”, so sooner or later the blonde character will probably take on the name “Black Canary”, which fits in with the show’s title, though the comic-bookcharacter by that name had a hypersonic cry as a power, not touchy-feely psychic abilities. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birds-of-prey-tonight/131571/12 "2002-10-10T05:46:57Z")
It was ok[shrug]. I’ll keep watching for a while. I missed the first few minutes, why is the city called “New” Gotham? ---
**Author:** ![PolishSausage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@PolishSausage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PolishSausage)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birds-of-prey-tonight/131571/13 "2002-10-10T12:50:25Z")
**fogmage** ~ the city’s name is never explained. The show started with a voice over from Alfred (an immortal from the Highlander show, I guess :rolleyes: ) giving a quick update of Batgirl’s and The Huntress’ backgrounds in New Gotham. ---
**Author:** ![Gorgon\_Heap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@Gorgon\_Heap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorgon_Heap)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birds-of-prey-tonight/131571/14 "2002-10-10T13:09:46Z")
Immortal … heh. I was sorely dissapointed. It was _so_ much like _Mutant X_ DC-ized. Eck. The diologue was dreadful, it was campy, it felt rushed … you name it. [sigh] Oh, well. At least I stumbled across South Park afterwards. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birds-of-prey-tonight/131571/15 "2002-10-10T13:35:15Z")
If they don’t anchor the show with some believable _angst_, it will stay too fluffy and camp. Obvious comparison, but a show like **Buffy** does this well - good grounding in serious issues, enabling a lot more use of humor and such. Oh, and could Batgirl’s outfit looked more 60’s Batman campy? Thank god it’s only in flashbacks. Dina Meyer seemed okay, but that outfit was a testimony as to why spandex and primary colors don’t translate off the page to the big screen and tend to get replaced by black… ---
**Author:** ![Tygr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/df788c/32.png) [@Tygr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tygr)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2002, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birds-of-prey-tonight/131571/16 "2002-10-10T18:00:19Z")
Not a bad start for a comic-based series, though I think it’s more fun to have a series start things, rather than have the hero operations already in place. IMHO, watching someone become a hero has more inherent dramatic potential. Hm. Best be careful, else I’ll start to sound pretentious. Um… Whoo, howzabout dem babes, huh? [sub]There, that’s better.[/sub] Yeah, I know we’ve got the virgin ‘metahuman’ just starting out, but so far she seems kinda 5th-wheelish. Liked: The fact that they kept the Joker as being responsible for Barbara Gordon’s paralysis. Except for the lack of Commisioner Gordon in the apartment with her, the scene of her getting shot was fairly close to the scene in _The Killing Joke_. 🆒 Disliked: The completely incongruous techno music that began blaring at the start of the the final fight scene. A real non-sequiter in the soundtrack. Really liked having Harley as the villain. But I have one question - where did the executive bad-guy get Jonathan Crane’s neurotoxin? I was really expecting him to don the Scarecrow’s outfit. Since he was using his M.O., after all. And aren’t we all getting a little tired of comic-book bad guys turning out to be ruthless corporate types? That is so 1990’s. ---
**Author:** ![audit1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@audit1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/audit1)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2002, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birds-of-prey-tonight/131571/17 "2002-10-11T01:10:54Z")
Anyone else think when you compare the exterior shots of the clock tower with the interior, it is bigger on the inside than the outside?