# Birmingham, UK: No-Go-a-go-go? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 19, 2015, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birmingham-uk-no-go-a-go-go/710326 "2015-01-19T23:42:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birmingham-uk-no-go-a-go-go/710326/1 "2015-01-19T23:42:14Z")
[From CNN:](http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/19/politics/jindal-no-go-zones-london/index.html) > [@](#): > > (CNN)Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal on Monday stood by his criticism of so-called “no-go” zones in Europe, where sovereign nations allegedly cede authority to Muslim immigrants, a controversial idea that many critics say is overblown. > > And he decried what he called immigrants’ insistence on "non-assimilation, the fact that “you’ve got people who want to come to our country but not adopt our values,” which he called “dangerous.” Bobby Jindal now says the UK is HIS country? Did he roll well in RISK??? Second, even though the FOX news talking-head that made these claims has been publicly discredited and FOX has apologized for the misstatement on air, he’s gone back to backing this false claim? Wow!!! Jindal Tales! Jindal Tales! Jindal Does UK!!! Oh What Fun It is to Spout Not Thinking what you say! Hey! Jindal Tales! Jindal Tales! Jindal Does UK!!! Oh What Fun It is to Spout Not Thinking what you say! Faux-News is In-The-Know (Cause Murdoch knows UK) :rolleyes: Talk-points swirl & flow (PM laughing all the way!) [No-Go-Joe](http://video.foxnews.com/v/3995607525001) Making Panic King And The Public much-less bright With glee, fear-mongers laugh and sing (and try to pick new fights!) Ohhhh… Jindal Tales! Jindal Tales! Jindal Does UK!!! Oh What Fun It is to Spout Not Thinking what you say!! ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2015, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birmingham-uk-no-go-a-go-go/710326/2 "2015-01-19T23:55:03Z")
Is he Stupid? Is he Republican? Has ever had an idea? (I guess two out of three ain’t bad) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=511831&page=371](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=511831&page=371) ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birmingham-uk-no-go-a-go-go/710326/3 "2015-01-20T00:53:55Z")
[From CNN, quoting Jindal’s speech to Henry Jackson Society in London](http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/19/politics/jindal-no-go-zones-london/index.html): Earlier Monday, in an address to the Henry Jackson Society in London, Jindal said that “in the West, non-assimilationist Muslims establish enclaves and carry out as much of Sharia law as they can without regard for the laws of the democratic countries which provided them a new home,” according to prepared remarks. “It is startling to think that any country would allow, even unofficially, for a so called ‘no-go zone.’ The idea that a free country would allow for specific areas of its country to operate in an autonomous way that is not free and is in direct opposition to its laws is hard to fathom,” he added. Guess he didn’t learn anything from the Fox walk back that occurred recently. Two different CNN reporters/analysts/commentators (?) asked him for details and Jindal would provide none. Who let him out across the pond? ---
**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birmingham-uk-no-go-a-go-go/710326/4 "2015-01-20T01:02:17Z")
Ye gods, I think that’s the most I’ve ever agreed with David Cameron. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birmingham-uk-no-go-a-go-go/710326/5 "2015-01-20T01:19:10Z")
The parts of his speech you quote are masterful rhetoric, used to assholish ends. “in the West, non-assimilationist Muslims establish enclaves and carry out as much of Sharia law as they can without regard for the laws of the democratic countries which provided them a new home,” according to prepared remarks. His comment has to be precisely correct since by definition that is what non-assimilationist Muslims would do. A careless listener is given the impression (probably intentionally) that he’s saying that all (or most or many) Muslims are non-assimilationist, but if he’s called on the accuracy of his comment, it is by definition accurate, even if the impression conveyed is not. “It is startling to think that any country would allow, even unofficially, for a so called ‘no-go zone.’ The idea that a free country would allow for specific areas of its country to operate in an autonomous way that is not free and is in direct opposition to its laws is hard to fathom,” he added. Note that he gives the impression that this is actually happening while never actually saying so. Again, a careless listener will hear this as testimony that countries are allowing ‘no-go zones’ etc but if he’s called on it, he’ll say he never actually said any country was doing so, only that it would be startling and hard to fathom. How to stir up racial tension while never actually saying anything incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birmingham-uk-no-go-a-go-go/710326/6 "2015-01-20T01:47:35Z")
For a moment there I thought I made the list in the Pit thread. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birmingham-uk-no-go-a-go-go/710326/7 "2015-01-20T01:58:36Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > For a moment there I thought I made the list in the Pit thread. 🆒 LOL. In the same way that Chinese Nationalists used to hold up 5 fingers and say “Gang of Four”, I Know I’m a part of that thread. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birmingham-uk-no-go-a-go-go/710326/8 "2015-01-20T03:33:02Z")
I love the understatement in the article. ‘[A] controversial idea that many critics say is overblown.’ But I suppose ‘that sensible people say is complete bullshit’ isn’t politic. ---
**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birmingham-uk-no-go-a-go-go/710326/9 "2015-01-20T09:44:29Z")
While there may not be any ‘no-go’ areas for non muslims in Birmingham, I should note that it has a far higher proportion of Villains than any other city in Europe. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2015, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birmingham-uk-no-go-a-go-go/710326/10 "2015-01-20T10:56:12Z")
> [@mascaroni](#): > > While there may not be any ‘no-go’ areas for non muslims in Birmingham, I should note that it has a far higher proportion of Villains than any other city in Europe. Not to mention more canals than Venice. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birmingham-uk-no-go-a-go-go/710326/11 "2015-01-21T00:53:44Z")
It appears [The City of Paris plans to sue Fox News!](http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/20/media/paris-mayor-sue-fox-news/index.html) > [@](#): > > Paris Mayor Anne Hidalgo told CNN Tuesday she intends to sue Fox News in the wake of the channel’s coverage of supposed “no-go zones” for non-Muslims. > > Hidalgo said the channel had “insulted” her city. > > “When we’re insulted, and when we’ve had an image, then I think we’ll have to sue, I think we’ll have to go to court, in order to have these words removed,” Hidalgo told CNN’s Christiane Amanpour. “The image of Paris has been prejudiced, and the honor of Paris has been prejudiced.” ---
**Author:** ![spanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@spanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spanna)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birmingham-uk-no-go-a-go-go/710326/12 "2015-01-21T11:22:12Z")
> [@mascaroni](#): > > While there may not be any ‘no-go’ areas for non muslims in Birmingham, I should note that it has a far higher proportion of Villains than any other city in Europe. And things are going too well for us Villains at the moment - lowest goals scored in the top 8 divisions ☹