# Birth control, breast pumps, counseling for abuse? Are we going to do pedicures & manicures as well? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 8, 2011, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birth-control-breast-pumps-counseling-for-abuse-are-we-going-to-do-pedicures-manicures-as-well/591972 "2011-08-08T18:29:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birth-control-breast-pumps-counseling-for-abuse-are-we-going-to-do-pedicures-manicures-as-well/591972/161 "2011-08-11T04:01:19Z")
**Curlcoat** , **Indygrrl** knows what she’s talking about. You don’t. So again STFU. This board is dedicated to fighting ignorance not spreading it. Breast feeding saves you money. Since you clearly can’t grasp that fact shut up. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birth-control-breast-pumps-counseling-for-abuse-are-we-going-to-do-pedicures-manicures-as-well/591972/162 "2011-08-11T04:54:52Z")
> [@Indygrrl](#): > > Yeah, I agree that the information is out there and people already know about breastfeeding. Like anything else baby-related, I guess, I think this is one of those things people, women and men, just don’t pay any attention to until it’s an immediate concern. Like anything baby related, I guess, I don’t think it’s much of a concern until it affects them directly, and then it’s ‘Have you taken a look at the parental leave in this country? It’s a travesty? [I’m pregnant]’ and ‘Did you know there’s nowhere to breastfeed at the office? That’s crazy! I can’t believe it took me so long to notice [or maybe it was that my baby just turned six months old and I didn’t know women actually needed that sort of thing until two days ago].’ Not judging, I think it’s natural, but it’s been my experience, largely, with 30-something friends. So when they do look for the information, it’s nice that it’s out there. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birth-control-breast-pumps-counseling-for-abuse-are-we-going-to-do-pedicures-manicures-as-well/591972/163 "2011-08-11T05:28:22Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > **Curlcoat** , > > **Indygrrl** knows what she’s talking about. You don’t. We said the same thing. Apparently you don’t know what you are talking about. > [@](#): > > Breast feeding saves you money. Cite? I mean, if you are really interested in fighting ignorance rather than just being a bitch… ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birth-control-breast-pumps-counseling-for-abuse-are-we-going-to-do-pedicures-manicures-as-well/591972/164 "2011-08-11T05:40:58Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > We said the same thing. Apparently you don’t know what you are talking about. > > Cite? I mean, if you are really interested in fighting ignorance rather than just being a bitch… She wrote a nuanced and thoughtful post. You did not. Again shut up. You do not know what the fuck you’re talking about. She does. Anyone reading this thread understands that. The reason breast feeding saves you money is because breast feeding has serious health benefits for both mother and baby. Encouraging women to nurse or pump milk means a decrease in problems like potential obesity for the child. It also means a reduction in risk of breast and ovarian cancers for the mother. Here’s the study again so you can read it and STFU: > [@](#): > > [Stock Portfolio Management & Tracker - Yahoo Finance](http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/04/06/breastfeeding-saves-lives-and-money-study-finds/) > > Breastfeeding can help prevent costly hospital visits related to stomach viruses, ear infections, asthma, juvenile diabetes, sudden infant death syndrome and even childhood leukemia. I’m going to bed now. My three and a half month old finally fell asleep. I just pumped out two ounces of breast milk for her and I am tired. ---
**Author:** ![jabiru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@jabiru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jabiru)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birth-control-breast-pumps-counseling-for-abuse-are-we-going-to-do-pedicures-manicures-as-well/591972/165 "2011-08-11T05:54:23Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > Cite? I mean, if you are really interested in fighting ignorance rather than just being a bitch… This is a whoosh, isn’t it? It has to be. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birth-control-breast-pumps-counseling-for-abuse-are-we-going-to-do-pedicures-manicures-as-well/591972/166 "2011-08-11T06:30:58Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > I’m going to bed now. My three and a half month old finally fell asleep. I just pumped out two ounces of breast milk for her and I am tired. Ah, more proof of my theory that becoming a mother makes huge inconsiderate bitches of women… > [@jabiru](#): > > This is a whoosh, isn’t it? It has to be. You mean asking for a cite? No, I really know next to nothing about it since it wasn’t done by my mother when I was growing up, I didn’t have children and I know very few mothers. I hear in passing that breastfeeding is supposed to make all babies healthier and all that, yet I know scores if not hundreds of people who didn’t grow up being breastfed and yet didn’t have to go to the hospital. If mother of the year up there wasn’t having a screaming fit because I dared to question her decisions, she might use the opportunity to provide real cites, instead of one link to AOL. Whatever. Someday I’ll learn that I can’t say anything about children, even in IMHO, without people losing their shit. God knows I’ll never be able to form a positive image of parenthood in here… ---
**Author:** ![jabiru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@jabiru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jabiru)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birth-control-breast-pumps-counseling-for-abuse-are-we-going-to-do-pedicures-manicures-as-well/591972/167 "2011-08-11T06:52:43Z")
> [@](#): > > Quote: > Breast feeding saves you money. > > Cite? I mean, if you are really interested in fighting ignorance rather than just being a bitch… Really, can you not figure out even one way in which breastfeeding would save the mother money? ---
**Author:** ![jabiru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@jabiru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jabiru)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birth-control-breast-pumps-counseling-for-abuse-are-we-going-to-do-pedicures-manicures-as-well/591972/168 "2011-08-11T06:58:15Z")
I just re-read the revelvant posts. OK, I thought you were being wantonly ignorant. One of the many, many reasons women choose to breastfeed is that it saves them money. Clearly, that’s of no interest to you. My bad. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birth-control-breast-pumps-counseling-for-abuse-are-we-going-to-do-pedicures-manicures-as-well/591972/169 "2011-08-11T07:15:48Z")
> [@jabiru](#): > > Really, can you not figure out even one way in which breastfeeding would save the mother money? > [@jabiru](#): > > I just re-read the revelvant posts. > > OK, I thought you were being wantonly ignorant. > > One of the many, many reasons women choose to breastfeed is that it saves them money. Clearly, that’s of no interest to you. My bad. Um, I believe that **LavenderBlue** ’s claim was that breastfeeding mothers save others money because their babies are less sickly. If she merely meant that it saves her (and other mothers) money, then it’s not only not of interest to me, it also wouldn’t fit the context. But then, I’ve been wrong before… If she wants her insurance company to be required to provide her with a pump - for free? at reduced cost? - so she can save on formula, that would fit the “it’s all about me” attitude that many mothers adopt these days. But I do think she meant taxpayer and insurance company savings. ---
**Author:** ![jabiru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@jabiru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jabiru)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birth-control-breast-pumps-counseling-for-abuse-are-we-going-to-do-pedicures-manicures-as-well/591972/170 "2011-08-11T07:35:25Z")
As I said, I was mistaken in my first post. I wouldn’t dream of claiming to know what another poster might or might not mean. I’d argue the point about mothers thinking it’s “all about” them but you’ve made your antipathy clear and I see no reason to waste the keystrokes. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birth-control-breast-pumps-counseling-for-abuse-are-we-going-to-do-pedicures-manicures-as-well/591972/171 "2011-08-11T07:45:26Z")
> [@jabiru](#): > > As I said, I was mistaken in my first post. I wouldn’t dream of claiming to know what another poster might or might not mean. I misread that - I see now that we agree I wasn’t discussing breastfeeding for personal savings. > [@](#): > > I’d argue the point about mothers thinking it’s “all about” them but you’ve made your antipathy clear and I see no reason to waste the keystrokes. I said “some” mothers, and yes I have antipathy towards that sort of mother. ETA: Sorry, I see I actually said “many” mothers. ---
**Author:** ![Girl\_From\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3da27b/32.png) [@Girl\_From\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Girl_From_Mars)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birth-control-breast-pumps-counseling-for-abuse-are-we-going-to-do-pedicures-manicures-as-well/591972/172 "2011-08-11T09:51:59Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > It seems like another thing the modern mother is these days is rude. And unable to plan? Unless it takes you hours to go to the grocery store and back, there doesn’t seem to be any need to bring baby or pump. But then, once you start doing that “hardest job on earth”, you cannot be bothered to think of anyone else, can you? Out of interest, do you know how often a newborn baby needs to be fed? Were you aware that it is often unpredictable when the child will need another feed, particularly if they are going through a growth spurt? These things make it very difficult to plan to always be back at home at the right time, particularly if you have several things you need to do during the day. The alternative (and I know you would not like this) is that a hungry baby cries. Feeding a baby at the first signs of hunger should be thought a very considerate thing for a mother to do - not only for her child, but for the people around her. And the vast majority of people I know who breastfed were pretty self-conscious about exposing themselves in public (seriously, you think as soon as we become mums we all want to whip our boobs out for the general public to ogle at? Seriously?) and are very careful to use hooter-hiders, wraps and other devices to keep the disturbance to a minimum. I checked my own technique out in the mirror from a few angles to make sure you couldn’t see anything - really you’d get more glimpse of a boob from a woman wearing a low cut top than most nursing women. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birth-control-breast-pumps-counseling-for-abuse-are-we-going-to-do-pedicures-manicures-as-well/591972/173 "2011-08-11T13:19:47Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > I wasn’t talking about nursing when I mentioned rude, but since you immediately jumped to that conclusion, I kind of wonder how sure you are that doing it openly in public isn’t rude. > > What is rude, however, is acting like a complete bitch when someone dares to say something about one of your pet subjects. What is also rude is doing something you absolutely don’t need to do, when you know full well that you are upsetting at least some of the people around you. But then, it appears my first comment holds - when you become a mommy, you cannot be bothered to think of anyone else. Heh. Breastfeeding is absolutely not one of my pet subjects. Pointing and laughing at stupid is a hobby of mine, though. Hungry babies need to be fed. Breasts actually exist to fulfill that purpose. No really, have a moment to take it in if you need to, but rest assured, _that’s what they’re for_, whether you find it “upsetting” or not. Nursing in public is not rude, any more than eating is. Humanity in general is under no obligation to accommodate your peculiarly backward and prudish preferences. > [@curlcoat](#): > > Well, if it is costing me money, it is. Hence the questions. Formula is already taxpayer subsidized. The more people nurse, the fewer people buy formula, ergo saving the taxpayer money. > [@curlcoat](#): > > Well, since cultural shifts had nothing to do with it, this seems immaterial. Cultural shifts have nothing to do with parenting decisions? You’re _adorable_. You got jostled around quite a bit in the back of the station wagon, didn’t you? Hit your head a few times? ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birth-control-breast-pumps-counseling-for-abuse-are-we-going-to-do-pedicures-manicures-as-well/591972/174 "2011-08-11T13:30:25Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > I hear in passing that breastfeeding is supposed to make all babies healthier and all that, yet I know scores if not hundreds of people who didn’t grow up being breastfed and yet didn’t have to go to the hospital. If mother of the year up there wasn’t having a screaming fit because I dared to question her decisions, she might use the opportunity to provide real cites, instead of one link to AOL… Really? You aren’t aware that we have high rates of heart disease and cancer in the western world? So, no, those people may not show up at the hospital and say, “I think I may have developed this because I wasn’t breastfed,” but that doesn’t mean it didn’t play a part. But if you are seriously in doubt about the health benefits (for mom and baby), here is a great site: [http://www.womenshealth.gov/breastfeeding/why-breastfeeding-is-important/](http://www.womenshealth.gov/breastfeeding/why-breastfeeding-is-important/) > [@](#): > > The cells, hormones, and antibodies in breast milk protect babies from illness. This protection is unique; formula cannot match the chemical makeup of human breast milk. In fact, among formula-fed babies, ear infections and diarrhea are more common. Formula-fed babies also have higher risks of: > Necrotizing (nek-roh-TEYE-zing) enterocolitis (en-TUR-oh-coh-lyt-iss), a disease that affects the gastrointestinal tract in preterm infants. > Lower respiratory infections > Asthma > Obesity > Type 2 diabetes > Some research shows that breastfeeding can also reduce the risk of Type 1 diabetes, childhood leukemia, and atopic dermatitis (a type of skin rash) in babies. Breastfeeding has also been shown to lower the risk of SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome). Immunity Fewer infections Protection from SIDS Higher Intelligence Less obesity Less diabetes Less necrotizing entercolitis > **[Breastfeeding](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breastfeeding)** > > Breastfeeding, also known as nursing, is the process where breast milk is fed to a child. Infants may suck the milk directly from the breast, or milk may be extracted with a pump and then fed to the infant. The World Health Organization (WHO) recommend that breastfeeding begin within the first hour of a baby's birth and continue as the baby wants. Health organizations, including the WHO, recommend breastfeeding exclusively for six months. This means that no other foods or drinks Breastfeeding... And for mama as well: > [@](#): > > Breastfeeding is linked to a lower risk of these health problems in women: > Type 2 diabetes > Breast cancer > Ovarian cancer > Postpartum depression > Experts are still looking at the effects of breastfeeding on osteoporosis and weight loss after birth. Many studies have reported greater weight loss for breastfeeding mothers than for those who don’t. But more research is needed to understand if a strong link exists. It’s tempting to think that the benefits of breastfeeding are being overstated, but the truth is the benefits are probably even more than what we commonly hear. This wiki page is a great source, and even a cursory glance through it should be enough to convince you that the benefits are there. > **[Breastfeeding](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breastfeeding)** > > Breastfeeding, also known as nursing, is the process where breast milk is fed to a child. Infants may suck the milk directly from the breast, or milk may be extracted with a pump and then fed to the infant. The World Health Organization (WHO) recommend that breastfeeding begin within the first hour of a baby's birth and continue as the baby wants. Health organizations, including the WHO, recommend breastfeeding exclusively for six months. This means that no other foods or drinks Breastfeeding... The composition of breast milk, and the way it changes to give your baby exactly what he/she needs at their age/size, and how it’s immune function changes specifically for your baby is particularly fascinating, IMO: > **[Breast milk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breast_milk)** > > Breast milk (sometimes spelled as breastmilk) or mother's milk is milk produced by the mammary glands in the breasts of women. Breast milk is the primary source of nutrition for newborn infants, comprising fats, proteins, carbohydrates, and a varying composition of minerals and vitamins. Breast milk also contains substances that help protect an infant against infection and inflammation, such as symbiotic bacteria and other microorganisms and immunoglobulin A, whilst also contributing to the healt... > [@](#): > > The immune function of breast milk is individualized, as the mother, through her touching and taking care of the baby, comes into contact with pathogens that colonize the baby, and, as a consequence, her body makes the appropriate antibodies and immune cells. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birth-control-breast-pumps-counseling-for-abuse-are-we-going-to-do-pedicures-manicures-as-well/591972/175 "2011-08-11T14:22:53Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Hey, **Damuri Ajashi**. You’re aware that you don’t have to reply to each post individually, yes? You can do it all in one or two big posts. Protip. etc etc Yeah I know the firewall on my pda doesn’t permit it. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birth-control-breast-pumps-counseling-for-abuse-are-we-going-to-do-pedicures-manicures-as-well/591972/176 "2011-08-11T14:36:22Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > I wasn’t going that far back into the past. More like the 50’s & 60’s. Pretty sure they were dying in the 50’s and 60’s too. I bet someone’ died last week during childbirth. “In the United States, the maternal death rate was 11 maternal deaths per 100,000 live births in 2005.[11] This rose to 13.3 per 100,000 in 2006” [Maternal death - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maternal_death) > [@](#): > > “Can” isn’t what I was questioning, it was more “need to”. And I guess how common it is these days. Well, they really encourage breastfeeding (“breast is best” is plastered all over the place in maternity wards) but I know plenty of kids that were bottle fed formula from birth who don’t seem to have any problems. But we are not talking about what you need. Formula gives you what you “need” and if you can’t afford formula, the federal government will pay for your formula. But we aren’t talking about ogvernment assistance here, we are talking about regulations that mandate certain benefits from INSURANCE companies. For example, there once was a time when the mother routinely stayed in the hospital for a week or more after delivery both to let her recuperate and to take the time to teach her basic mothering skills. As time went on,. insurance companies kept reducing the coverage to the point where you were expected to elave the hospital within hours of delivery unless there was some medical reason you couldn’t recuperate at home. The government stepped in and forced insurance companies to pay for at least an overnight stay (two nights for a ceasarean). ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birth-control-breast-pumps-counseling-for-abuse-are-we-going-to-do-pedicures-manicures-as-well/591972/177 "2011-08-11T14:42:40Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > It seems like another thing the modern mother is these days is rude. And unable to plan? Unless it takes you hours to go to the grocery store and back, there doesn’t seem to be any need to bring baby or pump. But then, once you start doing that “hardest job on earth”, you cannot be bothered to think of anyone else, can you? I don’t know if its the hardest job on earth but its a lot harder than most jobs I have had. You seem to be sugegsting that a mother can put her kid to bed for a nap and then leave the kid alone so she can go shopping. > [@](#): > > Apparently, and not surprisingly, the whole BF thing has just roared on by me. It is now so common that insurance companies are expected to provide pumps for - free? without copay? - and women going right back to work are so common that pumps are a necessity? For a lot of women, goign right back to work is necessary, they may not have paid maternal elave. And a lot of babies suck teat for a year. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birth-control-breast-pumps-counseling-for-abuse-are-we-going-to-do-pedicures-manicures-as-well/591972/178 "2011-08-11T14:48:55Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > when you become a mommy, you cannot be bothered to think of anyone else. Sure some women become total fucking bitches when they become mothers but most women don’t. I had a friend who insisted that the whole world revolve around her daughter but she grew out of it when her daughter started going to school. Other women start off as bitches and become really pleasant people when they have kids. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birth-control-breast-pumps-counseling-for-abuse-are-we-going-to-do-pedicures-manicures-as-well/591972/179 "2011-08-11T15:00:47Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > I misread that - I see now that we agree I wasn’t discussing breastfeeding for personal savings. > > I said “some” mothers, and yes I have antipathy towards that sort of mother. > > ETA: Sorry, I see I actually said “many” mothers. To be fair, there are some women who start off as bitches and become much easier to deal with after they have kids. I had a partner who was such a bitch that noone wanted to work with ehr despite her impeccable work product. Then she had a kid and her intensity level dropped a metric fuckload. I think having a kid filled a void in her life that being a partner at a large law firm did not. It seemd to give her much broader perspective on things. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birth-control-breast-pumps-counseling-for-abuse-are-we-going-to-do-pedicures-manicures-as-well/591972/180 "2011-08-11T15:03:09Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > Hungry babies need to be fed. Breasts actually exist to fulfill that purpose. No really, have a moment to take it in if you need to, but rest assured, _that’s what they’re for_, whether you find it “upsetting” or not. Well, my opinion is that breasts are for breastfeeding to the same extent that sex is for procreation. Breasts are multi-functional IMHO. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birth-control-breast-pumps-counseling-for-abuse-are-we-going-to-do-pedicures-manicures-as-well/591972.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/birth-control-breast-pumps-counseling-for-abuse-are-we-going-to-do-pedicures-manicures-as-well/591972.md?page=10)