# Bitchiest songs

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bitchiest-songs/583001>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 24, 2011, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bitchiest-songs/583001 "2011-05-24T12:36:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bitchiest-songs/583001/41 "2011-05-25T22:33:55Z")

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Um…Bitch by Meredith Brooks?

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**Author:** ![Boulter\_s\_Canary](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Boulter\_s\_Canary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boulter_s_Canary)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bitchiest-songs/583001/42 "2011-05-26T00:24:31Z")

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Richard Thompson

[Madonna’s Wedding](http://www.richardthompson-music.com/song_o_matic.asp?id=513)

[I Agree With Pat Metheny](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucgZQGPZOpk) (Kenny G)

[Mother Knows Best](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWjm6XdtEb0) (Margaret Thatcher)

And many (well, a few) others.

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**Author:** ![Jman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jman/32/4416_2.png) [@Jman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jman)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bitchiest-songs/583001/43 "2011-05-26T00:39:54Z")

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Not nearly as in your face as many of the examples here, but I’ve always loved the sly bitchiness of Nickel Creek’s “Somebody More Like You.” It starts out somewhat apologetic (or so it seems at first),

_I didn’t hear you say you’re sorry  
The fault must be mine  
I wish you all the best of luck  
At finding somebody more like you_

It has another verse similar to that, before coming up with this:

_I hope you meet someone your height  
So you can see eye-to-eye  
With someone as small as you_

And then cements the vindictiveness of the sentiment with the final verse:

_You came out of nowhere, made me smile  
Then tore me in two  
…  
So dear, I hope you find somebody more like you_

You have to hear the tone in the voice to really feel how pissed the singer is. It’s one giant middle finger. Love it.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bitchiest-songs/583001/44 "2011-05-26T02:38:17Z")

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[No Children](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVS5rpPW5Pg) by the Mountain Goats is perhaps the most bitter song I know, and I’m a big Dylan fan.

_In my life  
I hope I lie  
And tell everyone you were a good wife  
and I hope I die  
I hope we both die_

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**Author:** ![Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce7236/32.png) [@Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mona_Lisa_Simpson)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bitchiest-songs/583001/45 "2011-05-26T02:59:07Z")

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I would say that for just utter vitriol “Why’d ya do it” by Marianne Faithful would have to be the angriest song. Not clever, sarcastic or bitter but just freaking angry and foul mouthed.

I will not link to lyrics, they are NSFW.

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bitchiest-songs/583001/46 "2011-05-26T03:08:34Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Um…Bitch by Meredith Brooks?

This is what came to my mind first but when I think about it, she really sounds like a chick who wants the world to\* think\* she’s some tough ass bitch but after nattering on about it I get the feeling it’s all just a pose.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bitchiest-songs/583001/47 "2011-05-26T03:09:03Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Another vote for _You Oughta Know_; you got dumped, deal with it.

> [@Sitnam](#):
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> First one I thought of. When I first heard it I felt bad for the boyfriend, hell yeah, I’d dump her ass too. Bitches be crazy.

Oh, come on. Cut a sister some slack. You do realize she was something like 19 years old when she wrote that song, don’t you? That was probably the first time she ever really loved someone. Even in my old and hardened years, I can still remember that it truly feels like the end of the world when you lose the first person you ever fell in love with. I wouldn’t expect that kind of un-contained dramaric rage from someone who is almost 40, as she is now, but that song seems very normal coming from a heartbroken young girl.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bitchiest-songs/583001/48 "2011-05-26T04:08:23Z")

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I don’t know what The Rapture has against Ben Rama, but…

\*Cheap faker,  
Cheap Cheap Faker  
Lookin’ like a poor man’s Arthur Baker now  
Ben Rama, big-time lover  
Try to snatch the kitty off his girlfriends mother

We gotta freeze them up now  
We gotta freeze them up, Comeon, Lets Go  
We gotta freeze them up,  
I said a one, two, three, Freeze

No-oh  
No-oh  
No Sex for Ben  
No-oh  
No-oh  
No Sex for Ben  
\*

So…both Ben Rama (Ben Rymer) and Arthur Baker are DJs, but beyond that, I don’t know much.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bitchiest-songs/583001/49 "2011-05-26T04:28:48Z")

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[Sam Kinison’s Love Song](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV1dyV9d_1k)

“You fuckin’ whore  
You used me  
You never loved me  
I hope you slide under a gas truck and taste your own fuckin’ blood  
Die! Die! Die!  
I want my records back.”

The intro story is so romantic!

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**Author:** ![Electric\_Warrior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@Electric\_Warrior](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electric_Warrior)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bitchiest-songs/583001/50 "2011-05-26T05:10:29Z")

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Pretty much can’t beat the [Chili Peppers](http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3458764513820548088/) in this game…

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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bitchiest-songs/583001/51 "2011-05-26T05:17:30Z")

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I’m not sure if Amy Winehouse’s [“F-me Pumps”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJhl1xQENpY) is about a specific person, but for purposes of this thread I’m going to assume that it is, and it’s the very first song that came to mind. Sam Kinison screaming like a psycho is one thing, but I imagine if Amy sang this to a woman’s face – mocking smile, arched eyebrows, “don’t be mad at me” and all – claws to the face would inevitably ensue.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bitchiest-songs/583001/52 "2011-05-26T05:23:57Z")

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> [@TheBoltEater](#):
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> > [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> > [_Lyin’ Ass Bitch_](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OuiuolN1r4), by Fishbone.
> 
> HA! You just made my day with that pull. I actually have that tape - yes audio cassette - in my car right this moment. Now I must go listen to Fishbone. 🙂

I’m happy to be of service. 😉

_Lyin’ Ass Bitch_ pops up frequently on my iPod.

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bitchiest-songs/583001/53 "2011-05-26T05:35:36Z")

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Pretty much the entire Elvis Costello “This Year’s Model” album, which opens with the lines:

_I don’t want to kiss you, I don’t want to touch  
I don’t want to see you 'cause I don’t miss you that much_

Husker Du’s “Don’t Want To Know If You Are Lonely”, with the final verse:

_The phone is ringing and the clock says four A.M.  
If it’s your friends, well I don’t want to hear from them  
Please leave your number and a message at the tone  
Or you can just go on and leave me alone_

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**Author:** ![markdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@markdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markdash)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bitchiest-songs/583001/54 "2011-05-26T07:08:50Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> That would be sarcasm.

I’m sorry, I’ve listened to that song a hundred times and I don’t hear any sarcasm in the “sometimes I wish I was that way” line. Why would someone say that sarcastically? It’s an ambiguous statement.

I could see someone wishing they could be disaffected sometimes.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bitchiest-songs/583001/55 "2011-05-26T09:48:42Z")

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I was wandering around with my children at an flotilla of pontoons in a lake up north in Michigan and caught a song BLARING on some guys boom boxy thing,  
\*\*  
I hate you \*\*  
(It was the only lyric. Over and over in a male voice, very heavy metalish or maybe speed metal.)

My son,who was about 9 at the time, said, " That guy who wrote the song has a lot of anger."

I told him it was better to put your anger into the form of a song than into violence and beat the snot out of someone. No one’s ever gone to jail for a song, that I know of.

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**Author:** ![jinty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dbc845/32.png) [@jinty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jinty)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bitchiest-songs/583001/56 "2011-05-26T12:32:22Z")

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Queen’s [Death on Two Legs (Dedicated to…)](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Night_at_the_Opera_%28Queen_album%29) definitely registers high in the bitchy scale - I used to wonder who Freddie M was badmouthing so much (“A dog with disease, you’re the king of the sleaze”, “You’re a sewer rat decaying in a cesspool of pride”). I once heard a rumour it was 1970s prime minister Harold Wilson, for introducing punitive tax rates, but that rumour was pretty wide of the mark:

[QUOTE=wikipedia]  
“Death on Two Legs (Dedicated to…)” could only be referred to as Freddie Mercury’s hate letter toward Queen’s ex-manager, Norman Sheffield, who is reputed to have mistreated the band and abused his role as their manager from 1972-1975. Though it never made a direct reference to him, upon listening to the song, Sheffield attempted to sue the band for defamation, and this revealed to the public the subject of the song.  
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**Author:** ![jinty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dbc845/32.png) [@jinty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jinty)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bitchiest-songs/583001/57 "2011-05-26T12:40:36Z")

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Oh, and punk band Mclusky have plenty of form in bitchy songs…

[Gareth Brown says](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDTUmGFtqHU). Killer first line - very NSFW 😃

[Random Celebrity Insult Generator](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoF17mvYVMw&feature=related) - won’t make sense if you’re outside the UK, but a great song.

[Collagen Rock](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsDo_e-k2uE&feature=related) - dissing all their competitors, as far as I can tell.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bitchiest-songs/583001/58 "2011-05-26T13:15:37Z")

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> [@markdash](#):
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> I’m sorry, I’ve listened to that song a hundred times and I don’t hear any sarcasm in the “sometimes I wish I was that way” line. Why would someone say that sarcastically? It’s an ambiguous statement.
> 
> I could see someone wishing they could be disaffected sometimes.

IMO, if the entire rest of the song is mocking and disparaging, it seems a little odd _not_ to interpret those ‘positive’ lines as sarcastic. The interpretation is, of course in the eye of the perceiver - I can’t find any interviews with Mr Folds online about that song.

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**Author:** ![Walkabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/46a35a/32.png) [@Walkabout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walkabout)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bitchiest-songs/583001/59 "2011-05-26T13:23:16Z")

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Somebody has to include a little country in this list. How about Taylor Swift, famous for writing songs about her relationships:  
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You should’ve said no, you should’ve gone home  
You should’ve thought twice before you let it all go  
You should’ve know that word, bout what you did with her  
Would get back to me…  
And I should’ve been there, in the back of your mind  
I shouldn’t be asking myself why  
You shouldn’t be begging for forgiveness at my feet…  
You should’ve said no, baby and you might still have me\*

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2011, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bitchiest-songs/583001/60 "2011-05-26T13:38:35Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Oh, come on. Cut a sister some slack. You do realize she was something like 19 years old when she wrote that song, don’t you? That was probably the first time she ever really loved someone. Even in my old and hardened years, I can still remember that it truly feels like the end of the world when you lose the first person you ever fell in love with. I wouldn’t expect that kind of un-contained dramaric rage from someone who is almost 40, as she is now, but that song seems very normal coming from a heartbroken young girl.

Yeah, but she also sounds like shes on the edge of committing a triple homicide.

Pain is good for art, I’m just sayin’ the guy is lucky he got out of that relationship alive.

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