# Bite my ass China, you are not that good! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 14, 2016, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bite-my-ass-china-you-are-not-that-good/762840 "2016-08-14T22:29:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bite-my-ass-china-you-are-not-that-good/762840/21 "2016-08-15T00:09:41Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > But Brazil is a relatively wealthy nation with a large population. That was why I was surprised. It also has a culture that celebrates many of the skills involved in the Summer Olympics. Those figures i linked are for this years games, which are only about half-way through. If you look at Brazil’s figures for previous Olympics, they are a bit higher up the list. It could be that many of Brazil’s stronger events come in Week 2. They’re very likely to medal, with a good shot at gold, in both men’s and women’s soccer on Tuesday and Wednesday respectively. Let’s see where they come out. Also, for whatever reason, some countries can have a bad Olympics. Medal favorites and world champions can underperform on the big day. I know, for example, that there are a few Australian swimmers who are current world champions and who were expected to win (or at least vie for) gold at these games, and who failed to medal at all in their events. Sometimes shit just happens. I guess, too, that the correlation between national wealth and Olympic success might be affected not simply by overall wealth, but by the amount of money that a national government is willing to commit to its Olympic athletes. I’ll bet, for example, that none of the top North Korean athletes go hungry as part of their game preparation, despite the country’s abysmal conditions. Same for quite a few other countries. Even rich countries can spend disproportionately. After Australia had an abysmal games in Montreal, the government put hundreds of millions of dollars into the creation of the Australian Institute of Sport. It doesn’t just focus on Olympic athletes, but it essentially acts as a funnel for public money and outsized attention to elite athletes in all sorts of sports. The AIS has been credited with improving Australia’s performance on the international stage in a variety of different sports. Some critics have argued that, just as the Aussie government expects college grads to pay back their government-subsidized tuition fees through the tax system, athletes who end up making millions of dollars should face a similar tax levy to reimburse some of the public money spent helping them become successful. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bite-my-ass-china-you-are-not-that-good/762840/22 "2016-08-15T00:20:44Z")
They are being dicks about the South China Sea. They’re [sabotaging coral reefs and building naval bases on them](http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35106631). It’s like they just want to shit on their neighbors’ front lawns. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bite-my-ass-china-you-are-not-that-good/762840/23 "2016-08-15T01:36:15Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Those figures i linked are for this years games, which are only about half-way through. If you look at Brazil’s figures for previous Olympics, they are a bit higher up the list. It could be that many of Brazil’s stronger events come in Week 2. They’re very likely to medal, with a good shot at gold, in both men’s and women’s soccer on Tuesday and Wednesday respectively. Let’s see where they come out. > > Also, for whatever reason, some countries can have a bad Olympics. Medal favorites and world champions can underperform on the big day. I know, for example, that there are a few Australian swimmers who are current world champions and who were expected to win (or at least vie for) gold at these games, and who failed to medal at all in their events. Sometimes shit just happens. > [snip] See: US womens’ soccer team, 2016 Olympics ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bite-my-ass-china-you-are-not-that-good/762840/24 "2016-08-15T02:44:02Z")
…I’m glad I date-stamped that last post: we’ve been pushed to number 2! By Greenland! :: shakes fist at Greenland :: ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bite-my-ass-china-you-are-not-that-good/762840/25 "2016-08-15T02:53:20Z")
wait a minute I’m an 80/90s kid aren’t the russkies and the nips taking over the world? sorry just saying what all the old folks back then said… ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bite-my-ass-china-you-are-not-that-good/762840/26 "2016-08-15T02:59:56Z")
This is a fun thread. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bite-my-ass-china-you-are-not-that-good/762840/27 "2016-08-15T03:25:00Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …NZ are NUMBER 1!!! Whoo hooo!!! (Number 1 as of 1135 Monday 15th August at least!) Wasn’t expecting that: I thought we were having a horrible games. We’re losing out to Grenada. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bite-my-ass-china-you-are-not-that-good/762840/28 "2016-08-15T03:30:29Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > I write in my own style but I am not an idiot or moron by any account. Well, not by your own account at least. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bite-my-ass-china-you-are-not-that-good/762840/29 "2016-08-15T03:50:04Z")
China has a ton of problems, but I’d like to see them overcome them to become a world leader in R&D. > **[Report: U.S. Global Lead in R&D at Risk as China Rises](https://www.aip.org/fyi/2016/report-us-global-lead-rd-risk-china-rises)** > > The 2016 edition of the biennial Science and Engineering Indicators report depicts a world in which U.S. dominance in science and engineering on the world stage is fading as the U.S. federal investment in R&D declines while China and other... The world has a lot of problems that need to be solved. Problems in medicine, energy, AI, consumer electronics, transportation, etc. etc. China has been the biggest investor in renewables for a while, investing about as much as the US & Europe combined. [![](https://phys.org/newman/gfx/news/hires/2015/1-renewablesre.jpg) ](https://phys.org/newman/gfx/news/hires/2015/1-renewablesre.jpg) China is also helping to industrialize Africa. Under ideal conditions, China will within a few decades contribute as much science and technology to the world at 10 Japans. The world has a lot of problems and China has a lot of potential to help humanity solve them. I don’t know a lot about China, but in between the poverty, income inequality, academic culture of rote memorization, lack of quality control, corner cutting, corruption, scientific fraud, political oppression, etc. who knows when China will rise to the same standards as South Korea, Taiwan or Japan. I’d like to think by the 2030s, but that could just be wishful thinking. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bite-my-ass-china-you-are-not-that-good/762840/30 "2016-08-15T04:17:14Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > They are being dicks about the South China Sea. They’re [sabotaging coral reefs and building naval bases on them](http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35106631). It’s like they just want to shit on their neighbors’ front lawns. If shitting on your neighbors’ lawns would give you effective title to their property, you might not think it’s so bad. Looking at this another way, it’s building military might through belligerence. China knows no power will go to war over this relatively trivial matter, and they’ll get away with it. It’s a lot like their extreme Internet censorship. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bite-my-ass-china-you-are-not-that-good/762840/31 "2016-08-15T04:31:36Z")
> [@Musicat](#): > > If shitting on your neighbors’ lawns would give you effective title to their property, you might not think it’s so bad. > > Looking at this another way, it’s building military might through belligerence. China knows no power will go to war over this relatively trivial matter, and they’ll get away with it. It’s a lot like their extreme Internet censorship. I wonder if they factored global warming into their island paradise when they built it? ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bite-my-ass-china-you-are-not-that-good/762840/32 "2016-08-15T05:36:04Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > I am sick of hearing about how China is going to take over the world. Look at the Olympics. It is complete bullshit. My aunt and uncle had to save two Chinese girls with severe disabilities trapped in Chinese orphanages less than 15 years ago. Guess what, they are both perfectly fine and they are doing just great now as young adults. All of their torture was fixed and now they are free to screw up as much as they want on their own just like any spoiled kids. The only reason that happened was because they got out of China. > > China has over three times the population of the U.S. but we are still spanking that ass like a stripper on a 3 for 1 special during the Olympics. They have a long way to go before they can produce lots of world class athletes let alone major cities that are functional and don’t choke you with pollution. > > I hope they do better but I am not seeing it. Did they confiscate your commas as well, or have you always written like a 12 year old? ---
**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bite-my-ass-china-you-are-not-that-good/762840/33 "2016-08-15T05:56:22Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > China has over three times the population of the U.S. but we are still spanking that ass like a stripper on a 3 for 1 special during the Olympics. They have a long way to go before they can produce lots of world class athletes let alone major cities that are functional and don’t choke you with pollution. I don’t know about Olympic athletes, but they’re doing a fantastic job producing [classical pianists](https://youtu.be/8alxBofd_eQ). ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bite-my-ass-china-you-are-not-that-good/762840/34 "2016-08-15T12:34:33Z")
Fuck them and their checkers. Sorry about the controversial post, but that’s how I roll… ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bite-my-ass-china-you-are-not-that-good/762840/35 "2016-08-15T12:57:00Z")
Even their fire drills are poorly planned and executed. ---
**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bite-my-ass-china-you-are-not-that-good/762840/36 "2016-08-15T15:45:40Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Even rich countries can spend disproportionately. After Australia had an abysmal games in Montreal, the government put hundreds of millions of dollars into the creation of the Australian Institute of Sport. It doesn’t just focus on Olympic athletes, but it essentially acts as a funnel for public money and outsized attention to elite athletes in all sorts of sports. The AIS has been credited with improving Australia’s performance on the international stage in a variety of different sports. Some critics have argued that, just as the Aussie government expects college grads to pay back their government-subsidized tuition fees through the tax system, athletes who end up making millions of dollars should face a similar tax levy to reimburse some of the public money spent helping them become successful. And that is why Britain currently sits in second place in the medals table. After a dismal Atlanta Games, the Government decided to follow Australia’s lead, setting up UK Sport which funnels money from the National Lottery to specific olympic sports, facilities and athletes. The results speak for themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bite-my-ass-china-you-are-not-that-good/762840/37 "2016-08-15T16:08:39Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > When I was a kid “Made in Japan” was synonymous with “Piece of Shit”. Why do you hate Deep Purple? ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bite-my-ass-china-you-are-not-that-good/762840/38 "2016-08-15T17:31:40Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I don’t know how many people are actually saying that China is going to take over the world, but no one is saying that they’ve already done it. They’re on a pretty good trajectory compared to where they were 50 years ago, and we might want to revisit this discussion 50 years hence. > > It’s a marathon, not a sprint _amigo_. Assuming we are all alive in 50 years. Personally, I think China is digging it’s own grave and it’s just a matter of time before they crash and burn. At least as long as the CCP is in charge. But I do agree, they have come a long way in a short time, and are basically number 2 in the medal count atm…and have been getting stronger and stronger at this Olympics thingy over the past several games (of course, it helps when you can force kids to train and take the cream of those kids and toss the rest out if they don’t make the cut). But I don’t think that winning medals is really a good metric for all that’s either wrong or right with a country, and there are plenty of real things to ding China about than how many medals they did or didn’t win. Heck, just wrt Olympics I’d go with that practice of forcing kids to train and tossing out those who don’t make the grade, as well as just the way their program is run and works. Pretty icky IMHO…makes the Soviets and the old Warsaw guys good. ---
**Author:** ![JimNightshade](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jimnightshade/32/3354_2.png) [@JimNightshade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JimNightshade)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bite-my-ass-china-you-are-not-that-good/762840/39 "2016-08-15T19:04:20Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > I am sick of hearing about how China is going to take over the world. Look at the Olympics. It is complete bullshit. My aunt and uncle had to save two Chinese girls with severe disabilities trapped in Chinese orphanages less than 15 years ago. Guess what, they are both perfectly fine and they are doing just great now as young adults. All of their torture was fixed and now they are free to screw up as much as they want on their own just like any spoiled kids. The only reason that happened was because they got out of China. > > China has over three times the population of the U.S. but we are still spanking that ass like a stripper on a 3 for 1 special during the Olympics. They have a long way to go before they can produce lots of world class athletes let alone major cities that are functional and don’t choke you with pollution. > > I hope they do better but I am not seeing it. You mad bro? ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2016, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bite-my-ass-china-you-are-not-that-good/762840/40 "2016-08-19T17:42:22Z")
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