# Bizarre conservative idea that liberals see Obama as a "God" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 21, 2017, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bizarre-conservative-idea-that-liberals-see-obama-as-a-god/777705 "2017-01-21T11:49:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bizarre-conservative-idea-that-liberals-see-obama-as-a-god/777705/41 "2017-01-22T02:22:28Z")
It’s been funny, after eight years of conservatives claiming that Obama’s fans called him “The One\*” (a notion I only heard from conservatives; I guess it’s one of those stories they told each other), they swallowed Trump’s “I alone can fix it” without a hiccup. There was one speech he made during the fall where he basically promised to make his supporters’ every dream come true. How fucking messianic can you get? - I’ll mention one more time that there has been, in my lifetime, one Presidential candidate whose campaign did in fact call him “The One.” That was Nixon, of all people. “Nixon’s The One” was his campaign slogan. There was even a song that went with it: - Nixon’s the one, Nixon’s the one, Nixon’s the one for me, We believe in Nixon, N-I-X-O-N, Nixon’s the one for me.\* We Youth For Nixon types sang that back in 1968. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bizarre-conservative-idea-that-liberals-see-obama-as-a-god/777705/42 "2017-01-22T02:36:41Z")
Some of the example that Iggy cites may be people having a little ironic fun with the already established meme. But, at least he’s bringing something to the conversation as opposed to mere dickishness. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bizarre-conservative-idea-that-liberals-see-obama-as-a-god/777705/43 "2017-01-22T03:55:36Z")
I think Obama’s great, but I never said he was _perfect._ Michelle, on the other hand, is perfect. ---
**Author:** ![ataraxy22](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ataraxy22/32/307_2.png) [@ataraxy22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ataraxy22)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bizarre-conservative-idea-that-liberals-see-obama-as-a-god/777705/44 "2017-01-22T08:37:55Z")
There is no Christ. No Jesus. But if he existed, he would be like Obama, not like Trump. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bizarre-conservative-idea-that-liberals-see-obama-as-a-god/777705/45 "2017-01-22T08:44:44Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > It’s not so far-fetched when you see people glorifying Obama and saying how wonderful he was after 8 non-stop years of fuckup after fuckup. I’m not a Democrat voter, nor am I a Liberal, and I think you’re a fucking moron. 😃 Fuckup after fuckup? Cite!! ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bizarre-conservative-idea-that-liberals-see-obama-as-a-god/777705/46 "2017-01-22T09:34:57Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > There was one speech he made during the fall where he basically promised to make his supporters’ every dream come true. How fucking messianic can you get? He even said once that his campaign “will be a journey to Heaven because we will help so many people.” And “I take all of these slings and arrows gladly for you. I take them for our movement so that we can have our country back.” Shedding his blood so that we might be able to make it to heaven. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bizarre-conservative-idea-that-liberals-see-obama-as-a-god/777705/47 "2017-01-22T09:45:35Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > He even said once that his campaign “will be a journey to Heaven because we will help so many people.” And “I take all of these slings and arrows gladly for you. I take them for our movement so that we can have our country back.” Shedding his blood so that we might be able to make it to heaven. When did he say this? ---
**Author:** ![ataraxy22](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ataraxy22/32/307_2.png) [@ataraxy22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ataraxy22)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bizarre-conservative-idea-that-liberals-see-obama-as-a-god/777705/48 "2017-01-22T10:15:53Z")
This is ridiculous. There is no god. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bizarre-conservative-idea-that-liberals-see-obama-as-a-god/777705/49 "2017-01-22T11:06:20Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > He even said once that his campaign “will be a journey to Heaven because we will help so many people.” And “I take all of these slings and arrows gladly for you. I take them for our movement so that we can have our country back.” Shedding his blood so that we might be able to make it to heaven. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > When did he say this? To be clear, the “he” referred to is Donald Trump. According to [this transcript at NPR](http://www.npr.org/2016/10/13/497857068/transcript-donald-trumps-speech-responding-to-assault-accusations), Trump uttered those statements during a speech to refute assault allegations. The report is time stamped on October 13, 2016. Other news agencies reporting on the speech provide a dateline of West Palm Beach and Trump mentions being in Florida. I didn’t take the time to watch the video, but presuming NPR is faithfully transcribing the speech you can watch The Donald say it himself. ---
**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bizarre-conservative-idea-that-liberals-see-obama-as-a-god/777705/50 "2017-01-22T11:23:42Z")
> [@Iggy](#): > > To be clear, the “he” referred to is Donald Trump. > > According to [this transcript at NPR](http://www.npr.org/2016/10/13/497857068/transcript-donald-trumps-speech-responding-to-assault-accusations), Trump uttered those statements during a speech to refute assault allegations. The report is time stamped on October 13, 2016. > > Other news agencies reporting on the speech provide a dateline of West Palm Beach and Trump mentions being in Florida. > > I didn’t take the time to watch the video, but presuming NPR is faithfully transcribing the speech you can watch The Donald say it himself. Oops. Completed post too soon and ran out of edit time… The Bible does mention in various verses both slings or arrows, but not in that combination of phrase we are familiar with and which Trump said. That seems to be Shakespeare’s own wording in the nunnery scene of Hamlet, Act III, Scene 1 during the famous “To be, or not to be” soliloquy. So the imagery of shedding blood might be considered as a metaphor for Christ but the words used are not biblical or those typically referencing Jesus. The full heaven quote is: > [@](#): > > Many of my friends and many political experts warned me that this campaign would be a journey to hell – said that. But they’re wrong. It will be a journey to heaven, because we will help so many people that are so desperately in need of help. Again, references to religious matters are plain. Though in describing himself as on a journey to heaven and helping others one _might_ consider this an allusion to Christ, it could equally be an allusion to any of the followers of Jesus who were given the Great Commission to “Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.”(Mark 16:15, King James Version) ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bizarre-conservative-idea-that-liberals-see-obama-as-a-god/777705/51 "2017-01-22T11:34:29Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Michelle, on the other hand, is perfect. Fuck, yeah. I’m old enough to remember when Jacqueline Kennedy was First Lady, and how beautiful she was. (Hell, the whole _world_ pretty much had a crush on her back then.) But given a choice between Jackie Kennedy ca. 1962 and Michelle Obama now, I’d take Michelle. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bizarre-conservative-idea-that-liberals-see-obama-as-a-god/777705/52 "2017-01-22T11:41:16Z")
[Here we go](http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-vows-fulfill-every-dream-you-ever-dreamed): > [@](#): > > On the campaign trail on Tuesday, for example, Donald Trump told supporters, “We have 41 days to make possible every dream you’ve ever dreamed.” Oddly enough, it’s apparently part of Trump’s new pitch: NBC News’ Katy Tur noticed the Republican nominee make a similar comment a day later. > > ``` > “You have 40 days until the election. You have 40 days to make every dream you ever dreamed for your country come true.” > > ``` > > Yesterday, Trump also reportedly vowed to supporters he’d “fulfill every single wish” they have for his presidency. ‘Tuesday’ and ‘a day later’ were September 27 and 28; ‘yesterday’ was September 29. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bizarre-conservative-idea-that-liberals-see-obama-as-a-god/777705/53 "2017-01-22T14:27:45Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > What fuckups? > Oh, yes, he hasn’t achieved all he wanted to, but no President does, & overall, he’s done well. > I give him a B+. If you think Obama did well, I’d hate to see what you consider failure. As far as fuckups, [start here](http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-complete-list-of-barack-obamas-scandals-misdeeds-crimes-and-blunders/). I’m glad someone listed them, saves us all time having them in one place. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bizarre-conservative-idea-that-liberals-see-obama-as-a-god/777705/54 "2017-01-22T14:56:49Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > If you think Obama did well, I’d hate to see what you consider failure. > > As far as fuckups, [start here](http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-complete-list-of-barack-obamas-scandals-misdeeds-crimes-and-blunders/). I’m glad someone listed them, saves us all time having them in one place. Deficit is not the same as debt. If you have a credit card that you charge 3000 on the first year, 2000 the next, 1000 the third, you have decreased your deficit each year while debt still grows. [Unemployment](https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000) dropped below 8% for the first time in Sept. 2012, hit 8% again for the month of Jan 2013 and from there dropped steadily for the rest of his time in office, ending at 4.8%. Fast and Furious was started by Bush. I expect the rest of the list to be equally inaccurate and misleading or distorted. I’m surprised there was no mention of Obamaphones. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bizarre-conservative-idea-that-liberals-see-obama-as-a-god/777705/55 "2017-01-22T15:11:07Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Deficit is not the same as debt. It’s pretty amusing when a “fact check” starts with an elementary mistake or redirection such as this. The deficit rose to $1.4B in Bush’s final year and is somewhere around $500M for the past couple of years. (For most of Bush’s term, though, the numbers were better.) But, anyway, it matters not. Let’s just keep track of the numbers now and see how Trump compares come next election time. No matter the results, I’m sure it’ll either be “Trump is great!” if it goes well or “It’s Obama’s fault” if it grows. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bizarre-conservative-idea-that-liberals-see-obama-as-a-god/777705/56 "2017-01-22T15:27:33Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > The deficit rose to $1.4B in Bush’s final year To be completely accurate, the last budget that was passed in his final year. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bizarre-conservative-idea-that-liberals-see-obama-as-a-god/777705/57 "2017-01-23T02:35:04Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Fuck, yeah. > > I’m old enough to remember when Jacqueline Kennedy was First Lady, and how beautiful she was. (Hell, the whole _world_ pretty much had a crush on her back then.) But given a choice between Jackie Kennedy ca. 1962 and Michelle Obama now, I’d take Michelle. Of course, in addition to her stunning looks, Michelle is the brainy intellectual type. Which makes her all the more toothsome to us nerds. “If I had it to do all over again, I’d do a Harvard lawyer.” ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bizarre-conservative-idea-that-liberals-see-obama-as-a-god/777705/58 "2017-01-23T04:43:04Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > If you think Obama did well, I’d hate to see what you consider failure. That’s easy - George W Bush. Everything he touched, turned to shit. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bizarre-conservative-idea-that-liberals-see-obama-as-a-god/777705/59 "2017-01-23T14:23:43Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > That’s easy - George W Bush. Everything he touched, turned to shit. ROTLMAO! Bush wasn’t the best President - I’d rate him a B or B-. He’s still head and shoulders over Obama’s solid F. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bizarre-conservative-idea-that-liberals-see-obama-as-a-god/777705/60 "2017-01-23T14:25:18Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > ROTLMAO! Bush wasn’t the best President - I’d rate him a B or B-. He’s still head and shoulders over Obama’s solid F. I know! Bush got several thousand Americans killed for nothing, while Obama’s body count is TINY compared to that. In terms of getting Americans killed for nothing, I’d also give Obama a solid F. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bizarre-conservative-idea-that-liberals-see-obama-as-a-god/777705.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bizarre-conservative-idea-that-liberals-see-obama-as-a-god/777705.md?page=4)