# Black are better at music—Or fuck you Diogenes the Cynic **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 29, 2008, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-are-better-at-music-or-fuck-you-diogenes-the-cynic/447311 "2008-04-29T03:00:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Polerius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d78d45/32.png) [@Polerius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polerius)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-are-better-at-music-or-fuck-you-diogenes-the-cynic/447311/281 "2008-05-02T05:53:55Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] I said that I had initially believed the study was claiming that different learning methods had a neurological effect on the brain. [/QUOTE] If that is what you thought when you “misunderstood what the study was claiming”, what is it that you think the study is claiming now? ---
**Author:** ![Polerius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d78d45/32.png) [@Polerius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polerius)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-are-better-at-music-or-fuck-you-diogenes-the-cynic/447311/282 "2008-05-02T05:55:13Z")
[QUOTE=DiggitCamara] This. Thread. Must. Stop. Right. NOW. [The prophecy](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9743884&postcount=38) demands it! [/QUOTE] We still have 18 posts to go 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-are-better-at-music-or-fuck-you-diogenes-the-cynic/447311/283 "2008-05-02T05:59:40Z")
Well, of course, **Diogenes** is a racist. In my capacity as Queen of Romania, I grant a Royal Pardon. 1. ---
**Author:** ![DiggitCamara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@DiggitCamara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiggitCamara)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-are-better-at-music-or-fuck-you-diogenes-the-cynic/447311/284 "2008-05-02T06:05:47Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] Well, of course, **Diogenes** is a racist. In my capacity as Queen of Romania, I grant a Royal Pardon. 1. [/QUOTE] To whom? 16. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-are-better-at-music-or-fuck-you-diogenes-the-cynic/447311/285 "2008-05-02T06:28:52Z")
**elucidator** is the Queen of Romania **Diogenes** is a racist. **Stewball was a racehorse** 1. ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-are-better-at-music-or-fuck-you-diogenes-the-cynic/447311/286 "2008-05-02T06:32:26Z")
If we’re to ensure the prophecy holds true, we’re really going to need to get this locked. Otherwise, it’s bound to eventually be pushed over the edge. 1. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-are-better-at-music-or-fuck-you-diogenes-the-cynic/447311/287 "2008-05-02T09:36:29Z")
What is the answer to this question? 1. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-are-better-at-music-or-fuck-you-diogenes-the-cynic/447311/288 "2008-05-02T09:40:26Z")
Do you have any two watt, four volt bulbs? For what? No, two watt. Oh, two watt? Yes. No. 12 ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-are-better-at-music-or-fuck-you-diogenes-the-cynic/447311/289 "2008-05-02T11:53:47Z")
People are always saying the answer’s 42. What the hell!? If we’re talking bulbs I need to know if it’s a bayonet base. 11 ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-are-better-at-music-or-fuck-you-diogenes-the-cynic/447311/290 "2008-05-02T12:20:04Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] What is the answer to this question? 1. [/QUOTE] What? 10 ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-are-better-at-music-or-fuck-you-diogenes-the-cynic/447311/291 "2008-05-02T13:02:38Z")
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=9755665#post9755665](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=9755665#post9755665) > [@CarnalK](#): > > And misusing the word “whine” to make your “note” into a personal insult doesn’t exactly keep you on that high horse neither. > [@SkipMagic](#): > > It’s not a misuse when it’s applied correctly, as it was in this case. See, the word “whine” has a auditory component to it’s meaning and while it’s often used on the internet as a way to sound superior and disdainful, it is a misuse, especially since there was nothing childish in my phrasing or attitude. > [@](#): > > 1. To utter a plaintive, high-pitched, protracted sound, as in pain, fear, supplication, or complaint. > 2. To complain or protest in a childish fashion. > 3. To produce a sustained noise of relatively high pitch: jet engines whining. For further info, consult with your ESL instructor, you fucking moron. oh yeah, “9”. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-are-better-at-music-or-fuck-you-diogenes-the-cynic/447311/292 "2008-05-02T13:09:06Z")
[QUOTE=CarnalK] For further info, consult with your ESL instructor, you fucking moron. oh yeah, “9”. [/QUOTE] Yeah, posting to a thread that has fuck all to do with your complaint, that’ll really get his attention. You realize that a suggestion to comment in the Pit doesn’t mean just any random thread, right? Ate. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-are-better-at-music-or-fuck-you-diogenes-the-cynic/447311/293 "2008-05-02T13:16:39Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] Yeah, posting to a thread that has fuck all to do with your complaint, that’ll really get his attention. You realize that a suggestion to comment in the Pit doesn’t mean just any random thread, right? Ate. [/QUOTE] Of course I realized that but so what? How are my comments in this thread any more random than the 9 posts before it? Besides, we both know he’s probably going to see it and I didn’t feel like starting a thread. ---
**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-are-better-at-music-or-fuck-you-diogenes-the-cynic/447311/294 "2008-05-02T15:21:51Z")
[QUOTE=CarnalK] How are my comments in this thread any more random than the 9 posts before it? […] I didn’t feel like starting a thread. [/QUOTE] How? Your tack-on is cowardly. [sub]And FWIW, you didn’t get my joke. In that, at least, you weren’t alone.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-are-better-at-music-or-fuck-you-diogenes-the-cynic/447311/295 "2008-05-02T15:45:53Z")
[QUOTE=hawthorne] How? Your tack-on is cowardly. [/QUOTE] Even agreeing that it is cowardly, that doesn’t make sense. And I guess I didn’t get your joke in the way you meant it. I assumed it was a dumb joke about getting a free duck decoy or something like when you open an account at a bank or support PBS. ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-are-better-at-music-or-fuck-you-diogenes-the-cynic/447311/296 "2008-05-02T16:55:01Z")
Four more posts! Four more posts! 4 (obviously). ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-are-better-at-music-or-fuck-you-diogenes-the-cynic/447311/297 "2008-05-02T17:01:02Z")
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=9757589&postcount=16](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=9757589&postcount=16) > [@CarnalK](#): > > The two aren’t related. I was given a “note” because I called a joke stupid. I am not insulting anyone when I re-iterate that “whine” is an insulting description. It gets tossed around a lot and DSYoungEsq specifically said “with respect” and “not intending to be insulting, or disparaging, just matter-of-fact about it” - I thought I should point out that it is NOT a matter-of-fact type description. Do you disagree? So? Do you disagree? Indistinguishable, do you mean to describe me in a “matter-of-fact” way when you said I was “whining”? Do you perhaps intend some level of insult? Be honest now. ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-are-better-at-music-or-fuck-you-diogenes-the-cynic/447311/298 "2008-05-02T17:07:36Z")
I don’t really mean to do much anything but 1) playfully mock your disproportionate anger over the word choice, and 2) point out that this thread is an example of doing the sort of thing you complained about in the posts which caused **SkipMagic** to label you, rightly or wrongly, as whining; that is, we are filling up this thread with posts over a particular joke which has come to dominate it and drive out the substance of those actually addressing OP. You get one (1) post in which to reply, after which the final post must be saved for a Moderator to close this thread. Choose your words wisely. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-are-better-at-music-or-fuck-you-diogenes-the-cynic/447311/299 "2008-05-02T17:18:41Z")
[QUOTE=Indistinguishable] I don’t really mean to do much anything but 1) playfully mock your disproportionate anger over the word choice, and 2) point out that this thread is an example of doing the sort of thing you complained about in the post **SkipMagic** labelled, rightly or wrongly, whining; that is, we are filling up with posts over a particular joke which has come to dominate it and drive out the substance of those actually addressing OP. You get one (1) post in which to reply, after which the final post must be saved for a Moderator to close this thread. Choose your words wisely. [/QUOTE] What disproportionate anger? I didn’t even start a Pit thread, just hijacked this, as you noted, perfect example. I said quite plainly and simply that “whine” is pretty much always meant as an insult, “playfully mocking” notwithstanding. SkipMagic and Colibri just seem to like tut-tutting me too much to admit it they were wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2008, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-are-better-at-music-or-fuck-you-diogenes-the-cynic/447311/300 "2008-05-02T17:19:32Z")
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