# Black hair=hispanic apparently **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 14, 2012, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-hair-hispanic-apparently/615725 "2012-03-14T07:36:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-hair-hispanic-apparently/615725/44 "2012-08-15T00:32:56Z")
> [@Blackberry](#): > > They really don’t. I was originally going to write logic, spelling, and grammar but I figured that would be pushing it. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-hair-hispanic-apparently/615725/45 "2012-08-15T00:37:25Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Yeah? Well my wife recently introduced me to her Swedish classmate, who turned out NOT to be a statuesque blonde but instead a dark-skinned black woman. I didn’t even know they had those. Spoke Swedenish and everything. > > Super hot, too. I guess that part’s mandatory. [Ida Ljungqvist](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ida_Ljungqvist_2010.jpg), who is a native Swede. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-hair-hispanic-apparently/615725/46 "2012-08-15T01:52:05Z")
What the hell is **redshesaid** on about? I got a lovely PM from her tonight: > [@](#): > > you dumb bitch > Even racist sites like sormfront know that whites come in MANY shades!!! the majoirty of whites have brunette hair too! whites cna have pink/olive/yellow/golden/red undertones and be darker or lighter!! just like there are pale blacks and really dark blacks! skintone doesnt determine your race! there are dark indians,but indians are not black > ! even the dutch dont look like that! and latinos look like better versions of white with curvy bodies! this video is dumb > white in the usa is defined by the us census bureau as people of middle eastern/northafrican/european blood! many countries in europe originated in the middle east,dumb folks dont know that > !!Even racist sites like sormfront know that whites come in MANY shades!!! the majoirty of whites have brunette hair! whites have pink/olive/yellow/golden/red undertones and be darker or lighter!! just like there are pale blacks and dark blacks! skintone doesnt determine race! there are dark indians,but indians are not black > ! even the dutch dont look like that! and latinos look like better versions of white with curvy bodies! spanish is a language,spaniards are a people form europe whoa re white!!! i wasn’t going to copy it since she posted it here almost exactly. Let me remind everybody this is all I said in this thread: > [@](#): > > ``` > I've gotten it too, and I'm positive I don't look Spanish at all. But they think dark hair = spanish, as the OP says. I had a nice old abuela yell at me because I "wasn't speaking my native language". I was like, lady, I DO! I speak Hindi very well. What Spanish I know I just learned from high school/college! > > ``` How that could generate that kind of response I’m not sure. Anyhoo. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-hair-hispanic-apparently/615725/47 "2012-08-15T02:04:50Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > How that could generate that kind of response I’m not sure. Anyhoo. Shrug. Once when I worked at the animal shelter, I reached out to pet a dog, and she snapped at me and tore my shirt. I did nothing wrong. Neither did you. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-hair-hispanic-apparently/615725/48 "2012-08-15T02:08:20Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Shrug. Once when I worked at the animal shelter, I reached out to pet a dog, and she snapped at me and tore my shirt. I did nothing wrong. Neither did you. Dogs have some use. But really I was just surprised to open my PMs, hoping for a good message from a friend, and I see “you dumb bitch” and a bunch of incoherent rambling. Nice. 😛 That’s really going to convince me. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-hair-hispanic-apparently/615725/49 "2012-08-15T02:18:18Z")
Well, that was an … interesting … way to revive a thread. Myself, I get the opposite reaction - I am Puerto Rican… yet over the last year I think on five ocassions I have been told I don’t look like it. Even by Latino people a couple of times! 😕 Dark straight hair, light olivey complexion (but have been staying out of the sun since my dad got skin cancer and I have a lot of spots already so I’m growing paler), bit hairier than the current fashion, not too tall, I should fit the model. I suppose they expect a 'Rican to look more African or more Amerind. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > [Ida Ljungqvist](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ida_Ljungqvist_2010.jpg), who is a native Swede. After some further Google searching I must conclude I have to go do some more online research on Swedish ethnography… ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-hair-hispanic-apparently/615725/50 "2012-08-15T02:27:17Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > After some further Google searching I must conclude I have to go do some more online research on Swedish ethnography… Don’t forget to turn off SafeSearch… ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-hair-hispanic-apparently/615725/51 "2012-08-15T02:32:04Z")
Wow. I hope you sent that along to a mod. Posting it was bad enough, but to PM you with it? I was going to pop in here with my own observations, but seeing the thread was resurrected by the cray cray, I’m just going to step out and back away slowly. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-hair-hispanic-apparently/615725/52 "2012-08-15T02:32:55Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > What the hell is **redshesaid** on about? I got a lovely PM from her tonight: > > i wasn’t going to copy it since she posted it here almost exactly. > > Let me remind everybody this is all I said in this thread: > > How that could generate that kind of response I’m not sure. Anyhoo. Holy Shit! She sent you that in a PM? Mods I say another warning is in order :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Blackberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Blackberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackberry)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-hair-hispanic-apparently/615725/53 "2012-08-15T02:42:22Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > What the hell is **redshesaid** on about? I got a lovely PM from her tonight: I got a very similar and equally coherent PM but somehow I lucked out of being a dumb bitch 🆒 Nice how he/she tailors the message a little to make us all feel special. It’s the little things that count. > [@](#): > > Even racist sites like sormfront know that whites come in MANY shades!!! the majoirty of whites have brunette hair too! whites cna have pink/olive/yellow/golden/red undertones and be darker or lighter!! just like there are pale blacks and really dark blacks! skintone doesnt determine your race! there are dark indians,but indians are not black > ! even the dutch dont look like that! and latinos look like better versions of white with curvy bodies! this video is dumb > white in the usa is defined by the us census bureau as people of middle eastern/northafrican/european blood! many countries in europe originated in the middle east,dumb folks dont know that > !!Even racist sites like sormfront know that whites come in MANY shades!!! the majoirty of whites have brunette hair! whites have pink/olive/yellow/golden/red undertones and be darker or lighter!! just like there are pale blacks and dark blacks! skintone doesnt determine race! there are dark indians,but indians are not black > ! even the dutch dont look like that! and latinos look like better versions of white with curvy bodies! ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-hair-hispanic-apparently/615725/54 "2012-08-15T02:42:46Z")
I sent it on to tubadiva. Thanks. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SecretaryofEvil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SecretaryofEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecretaryofEvil)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-hair-hispanic-apparently/615725/55 "2012-08-15T03:12:13Z")
Aw guys come on be nice, you’re going to get redshesaid banned before we can have any fun with her. Sometimes people inexplicably expect everyone to speak their language, no matter where they are. I’ve been guilty of this myself. While lost in Paris and only speaking about 4 words of French, I decided to just approach everyone and ask them if they spoke English. I figured sooner or later, I’d run into someone who did (and I did, eventually, and they were very polite and helpful, so there goes that stereotype). One time in Wilmington Delaware, this fellow came up to me and started speaking to me in Japanese. I don’t think he spoke a word of English. And I’m sure he didn’t think I was Japanese. I felt bad for him, statistically, his odds of running into someone who understood him were probably much lower than mine were in France. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-hair-hispanic-apparently/615725/56 "2012-08-15T04:29:21Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > What the hell is **redshesaid** on about? I got a lovely PM from her tonight: > > i wasn’t going to copy it since she posted it here almost exactly. > > Let me remind everybody this is all I said in this thread: > > How that could generate that kind of response I’m not sure. Anyhoo. Yep. Same here (except I was called an “idiot” instead of a “bitch”) and I had a simliar level of innocuous comments. I had no effing clue what this PM was about, just assumed it was some random spam, then I saw the poster had four posts and decided to click on it, which is how I found myself here, in a thread I had completely forgotten about. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-hair-hispanic-apparently/615725/57 "2012-08-15T04:49:06Z")
Well FUCK! Now I feel left out ☹ ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-hair-hispanic-apparently/615725/58 "2012-08-15T05:02:15Z")
> [@Michael63129](#): > > **Grude** doesn’t need to worry about being mistaken for a Hispanic for long based on a [recent thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=661236) (this thread was started only 5 months ago, seems a bit fast to go gray in that time). Oh the greys have been there the whole time, but they are increasing. Used to be single digits out of the whole head, now it is hundreds. I’ll probably get mistaken for an old hispanic guy 😛 Anyway I was never \, how dare you think I am hispanic! More a funny observation that it seems black hair alone is the identifying feature for people, and the odd diagnostic criteria peeps use. So if people are misinterpreting the thread sorry. When I first met my wife she asked me early on if I dye my hair, because white people don’t have black hair.:dubious: She thought I was a goth fan. I’ve also heard that white people do not have brown eyes(not from her lol) and once when I met someone in person for the first time after conversing via email for a job they said huh I thought you’d be black due to your last name(my last name is one of THE most common last names in the USA). ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-hair-hispanic-apparently/615725/59 "2012-08-15T05:32:31Z")
> [@Silver\_Tyger](#): > > I had someone think I was Filipino because I like to eat rice. I have (dark) brown hair, olive skin, and blue eyes. Well, I don’t know what your background is (I’m assuming Italian)!but let me just say “how are YOU doing?”. (you have all the features I covet in my fantasy woman… If your hair were black, that would be ok by me too. :-). HAHA) ---
**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-hair-hispanic-apparently/615725/60 "2012-08-15T05:34:01Z")
I’m also frequently asked if I speak Spanish. I have very dark chestnut brown hair and dark brown eyes, and the most pale and freckled skin. I’m whitey-white Irish with freckles. I don’t tan, I turn peach. Still, I’m told I look like I could be from parts of Mexico. I won’t argue. I won’t speak Spanish with you, either, though! ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-hair-hispanic-apparently/615725/61 "2012-08-15T05:38:23Z")
I recently had a funny experience where some Lebanese guys just started speaking arabic at me, when I said I did not speak it they said it was a shame my parents didn’t make sure I grew up fluent. They didn’t seem to want to believe I was not the child of Lebanese parents\* even when I said I’m from the US. \*There is a local enclave of Lebanese immigrants. ---
**Author:** ![Queen\_Tonya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/4491bb/32.png) [@Queen\_Tonya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Tonya)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-hair-hispanic-apparently/615725/62 "2012-08-15T07:43:18Z")
I’m generic white-bread European American looking, hazel brown eyes, ruddy cheeked, medium brown hair, very common and plain coloring, here in the Midwest. My first husband was of Hispanic and Native American descent with a common Hispanic last name, so for twenty years I got to disappoint people who expected me to speak Spanish. My second husband has a Venezuelan in the family tree, so upon remarriage I changed to another obviously Hispanic last name. About a third of my junk mail arrives with large print Spanish and tiny print English. A good friend married a nice woman from Nicaragua. She was endlessly amused to meet my family of people with two familiar surnames and find that no one here understands Spanish. ---
**Author:** ![ShelliBean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@ShelliBean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShelliBean)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-hair-hispanic-apparently/615725/63 "2012-08-15T11:41:18Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > How that could generate that kind of response I’m not sure. Anyhoo. I got the same one, except he/she? said I look like a sweaty lesbian butch (or bitch, I read it quickly) and that I was no housewife. So that’s interesting. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-hair-hispanic-apparently/615725.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-hair-hispanic-apparently/615725.md?page=4)