# Black History Feud by 5-4-Fighting \[Game Over\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-history-feud-by-5-4-fighting-game-over/457298>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [July 21, 2008, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-history-feud-by-5-4-fighting-game-over/457298 "2008-07-21T20:43:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-history-feud-by-5-4-fighting-game-over/457298/41 "2008-07-22T03:04:09Z")

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1. Ray Charles
2. Arthur Ashe
3. Bessie Smith
4. Massachusetts
5. Langston Hughes
6. Donovan McNabb
7. Chris Ofili
8. Denzel Washington
9. Marion Barry
10. Anita

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-history-feud-by-5-4-fighting-game-over/457298/42 "2008-07-22T03:34:27Z")

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1. Ray Charles
2. Arthur Ashe
3. Billy Holiday
4. Massachusetts
5. Michael Jackson
6. Michael Vick
7. Michael Jackson
8. Denzel Washington
9. Marion Berry
10. Michael Jackson

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**Author:** ![tarragon918](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d26b3c/32.png) [@tarragon918](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tarragon918)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-history-feud-by-5-4-fighting-game-over/457298/43 "2008-07-22T03:38:47Z")

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1. Name a music artist(s) for whom a biopic has been filmed, either as a television or theatrical release.

2. Besides the Williams sisters, name a top-20 tennis player, past or present.

3. Name a female blues singer from the pre-40s.

4. Name a state that abolished or introduced measures to abolish slavery pre-Emancipation Proclamation.

5. Name an artist of any genre from the era of the Harlem Renaissance.

6. Name a black football quarterback, past or present.

7. Name a currently working black male artist (i.e., painting, sculpture, etc.).

8. Name an actor who has been nominated for an Academy Award.

9. Name a former or current mayor of a major American city.

10. Name one of the Pointer sisters.

11. Billie Holiday

12. Arthur Ashe

13. Ethel Waters

14. Massachusetts

15. Paul Robeson

16. Doug Williams

17. Jacob Lawrence

18. Sidney Poitier

19. Tom Bradley

20. Ruth

Okay, I will freely admit that I did not know an answer to #7, and Jacob Lawrence came up in a search on google. I’m also uncertain about #4. And okay, #8 … as an Academy Award winner, of course he was also nominated. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-history-feud-by-5-4-fighting-game-over/457298/44 "2008-07-22T03:46:02Z")

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1. Ray Charles
2. Arthur Ashe
3. Bessie Smith
4. Connecticut
5. Aaron Douglas
6. Donovan McNab
7. Chris Ofili
8. Will Smith
9. Marion Barry
10. Anita

I don’t predict a top ten in this one.

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-history-feud-by-5-4-fighting-game-over/457298/45 "2008-07-22T04:41:46Z")

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1. Ray Charles
2. Arthur Ashe
3. Bessie Smith
4. Massachusetts
5. Cab Calloway
6. Donovan McNabb
7. No clue
8. Jamie Foxx
9. Marion Barry
10. Althea?

Joe

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-history-feud-by-5-4-fighting-game-over/457298/46 "2008-07-22T04:43:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Scarlett67]

God, I suck. I was a Googling fiend. And even then I “flunked” one.  
[/QUOTE]

Waitaminit, are we allowed to Google? I just assumed we weren’t, but you know what happens when you assume…

Joe

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-history-feud-by-5-4-fighting-game-over/457298/47 "2008-07-22T11:00:52Z")

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1. Ray Charles
2. Arthur Ashe
3. Lena Horne.
4. Pennsylvania.
5. Langston Hughes.
6. Michael Vick
7. Chris Ofili.
8. Denzel Washington
9. Marion Barry.
10. Ruth.

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**Author:** ![WormTheRed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bbe5ce/32.png) [@WormTheRed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WormTheRed)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-history-feud-by-5-4-fighting-game-over/457298/48 "2008-07-22T11:05:22Z")

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A tad to America-centric for me to jump on the bandwagon…

And I wouldn’t have had a clue on anything but no. 8

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-history-feud-by-5-4-fighting-game-over/457298/49 "2008-07-22T12:24:14Z")

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1. Ray Charles
2. Arthur Ashe
3. Billie Holiday
4. Rhode Island
5. Langston Hughes
6. Donovan McNabb
7. pass
8. Sidney Poitier
9. Harold Washington
10. June Pointer

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-history-feud-by-5-4-fighting-game-over/457298/50 "2008-07-22T12:25:49Z")

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[QUOTE=wheresgeorge04]  
Waitaminit, are we allowed to Google? I just assumed we weren’t, but you know what happens when you assume…

Joe  
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Sure! I do it all the time. 🙂

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-history-feud-by-5-4-fighting-game-over/457298/51 "2008-07-22T12:31:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Dolores Reborn]  
Sure! I do it all the time. 🙂  
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Ooh, right! Wait until the next feud, ivan astikov’s gonna be all over you Doper’s! 😃

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**Author:** ![Scarlett67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scarlett67/32/7387_2.png) [@Scarlett67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlett67)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-history-feud-by-5-4-fighting-game-over/457298/52 "2008-07-22T12:45:56Z")

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[QUOTE=wheresgeorge04]  
Waitaminit, are we allowed to Google? I just assumed we weren’t, but you know what happens when you assume…

Joe  
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My take on it is this: I try not to, but if it’s necessary, I feel honor-bound to disclose that I did so. YMMV.

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**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-history-feud-by-5-4-fighting-game-over/457298/53 "2008-07-22T13:53:28Z")

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1. Billie Holiday (Lady Sings the Blues)
2. Yannick Noah
3. Bessie Smith
4. Massachusetts
5. Langston Hughes
6. Michael Vick
7. Charles Bibbs
8. Denzel Washington
9. Tom Bradley\*
10. June

- My heart screams David Dinkins - I voted for Dinkins

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-history-feud-by-5-4-fighting-game-over/457298/54 "2008-07-22T13:56:19Z")

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[QUOTE=tarragon918]  
Okay, I will freely admit that I did not know an answer to #7, and Jacob Lawrence came up in a search on google. I’m also uncertain about #4. And okay, #8 … as an Academy Award winner, of course he was also nominated. 🙂  
[/QUOTE]  
I did a paper on Jacob Lawrence for an “Anthropology of the African American” course in undergrad, he was seriously cool. He seems to have passed on without notifying me, so you and I are probably going to be the only ones who give him as an answer. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-history-feud-by-5-4-fighting-game-over/457298/55 "2008-07-22T14:20:07Z")

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1. Billie Holiday
2. Althea Gibson
3. Bessie Smith
4. Ohio
5. Langston Hughes
6. Donovan McNabb
7. pass ☹
8. Sidney Poitier
9. Carl B. Stokes
10. Anita

I feel bad that I had to pass on #7.

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-history-feud-by-5-4-fighting-game-over/457298/56 "2008-07-22T14:51:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Dolores Reborn]  
Sure! I do it all the time. 🙂  
[/QUOTE]

Well, shit. Now I know…

Joe

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-history-feud-by-5-4-fighting-game-over/457298/57 "2008-07-22T14:52:57Z")

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It doesn’t seem to help me win, though… ☹  
**Sigmagirl** is #39.

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**Author:** ![Monstera\_deliciosa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monstera_deliciosa/32/109_2.png) [@Monstera\_deliciosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstera_deliciosa)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-history-feud-by-5-4-fighting-game-over/457298/58 "2008-07-22T16:53:43Z")

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My personal take on googling in the Feud: I often do it double-check a gut reaction answer when I’m not sure it’s correct. I know Feuds are about matching others, not necessarily getting the right answers, but I’d be embarrassed if my answer was \*\*totally \*\*wrong. My football answer in this Feud is an example. Doug Williams sprang to mind immediately, since I seemed to remember a big deal about him starting in the Super Bowl many years ago, but since I don’t follow sports at all, I checked to make sure.

Then there are Feuds where I am totally stumped for an answer or two. I google or wiki for those also.

But if I can’t answer at least half of the questions without outside assistance, then I skip that Feud, since it stops being fun for me, and doesn’t seem sporting besides.

YMMV

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-history-feud-by-5-4-fighting-game-over/457298/59 "2008-07-22T17:06:59Z")

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[QUOTE=KayElCee]  
But if I can’t answer at least half of the questions without outside assistance, then I skip that Feud, since it stops being fun for me, and doesn’t seem sporting besides.  
[/QUOTE]  
Thus my bowing out of the Broadway Feud.

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**Author:** ![WoodenTaco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/45deac/32.png) [@WoodenTaco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WoodenTaco)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-history-feud-by-5-4-fighting-game-over/457298/60 "2008-07-22T17:13:55Z")

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1. Ray Charles
2. Arthur Ashe
3. Ella Fitzgerald
4. Massachusetts
5. Langston Hughes
6. Michael Vick
7. Kara Walker
8. Morgan Freeman
9. Michael Nutter
10. Anita Pointer

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