# Black Lives Matter protesters at Dartmouth College library **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 16, 2015, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-lives-matter-protesters-at-dartmouth-college-library/737737 "2015-11-16T21:08:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-lives-matter-protesters-at-dartmouth-college-library/737737/1 "2015-11-16T21:08:55Z")
This behavior is totally counterproductive. It doesn’t help the Black Lives Matter movement at all. [http://eagnews.org/dartmouth-black-lives-matter-protesters-confront-students-studying-in-school-library/](http://eagnews.org/dartmouth-black-lives-matter-protesters-confront-students-studying-in-school-library/) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/OJAuVQlLxD0/maxresdefault.jpg "Dartmouth College #BlackLivesMatter Protest") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJAuVQlLxD0) ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-lives-matter-protesters-at-dartmouth-college-library/737737/2 "2015-11-16T21:34:05Z")
OH SHIT! College kids doing something dumb. STOP THE GODDAMNED PRESSES! Once again, a bunch of clueless kids engage in a bit of temporary stupidity, and it gets shouted to the heavens, because this particular bit of stupidity is done in the service of a leftist cause. Next time a bunch of college kids riot after a basketball game or a pumpkin festival or whatever, will you wring your hands and bemoan the state of the world? Pretty please? Edit: Better yet, could you start some threads about the Black Lives Matter actions that you DO think are helping the movement? Since you’re so concerned for their efficacy and all? ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-lives-matter-protesters-at-dartmouth-college-library/737737/3 "2015-11-16T21:37:40Z")
I haven’t examined this issue at my alma matter yet, I plan to look into it. Just note, the majority of the reporting in the linked article is from the Dartmouth Review, a conservative campus magazine that has IMO an extremely poor and biased reporting record. If they reported that water was wet I’d double check it myself. Their reporting isn’t always wrong, but it pretty much always has an agenda. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-lives-matter-protesters-at-dartmouth-college-library/737737/4 "2015-11-16T21:38:20Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > OH SHIT! College kids doing something dumb. STOP THE GODDAMNED PRESSES! > > Once again, a bunch of clueless kids engage in a bit of temporary stupidity, and it gets shouted to the heavens, because this particular bit of stupidity is done in the service of a leftist cause… You’re half right, but it’s done in support of a leftist cause by people of color. They’re being black makes their raising their voices in the library is scary while white kids burning a car after a basketball game isn’t. That’s why the media cover the two types of events so differently. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-lives-matter-protesters-at-dartmouth-college-library/737737/5 "2015-11-16T21:41:35Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > OH SHIT! College kids doing something dumb. STOP THE GODDAMNED PRESSES! > > Once again, a bunch of clueless kids engage in a bit of temporary stupidity, and it gets shouted to the heavens, because this particular bit of stupidity is done in the service of a leftist cause. Do you believe a college library is a learning environment? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-lives-matter-protesters-at-dartmouth-college-library/737737/6 "2015-11-16T21:45:03Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Do you believe a college library is a learning environment? Yes, of course. OOH, YOU CAUGHT ME IN A HYPOCRISY! Except no you didn’t, because I am all about disciplining these kids if their actions truly were as the story described them. I just think that the national hand-wringing over the incident is foolish. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-lives-matter-protesters-at-dartmouth-college-library/737737/7 "2015-11-16T22:24:51Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > …Edit: Better yet, could you start some threads about the Black Lives Matter actions that you DO think are helping the movement? Since you’re so concerned for their efficacy and all? (post shortened) Better yet, you could start some threads about the Black Lives Matter actions instead of asking others to do it for you. Some people believe that Only Black Lives Matter doesn’t give a damn about anyone but themselves. Only Black Lives Matter opinions must be considered more important than everyone else’s or you will be considered a racist. :smack: [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7OE46RQ2FA) The students using the Dartmouth College Library as a place to study should be allowed to study and learn. The only thing they learned is that loud, obnoxious, assholes are loud, obnoxious, assholes. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-lives-matter-protesters-at-dartmouth-college-library/737737/8 "2015-11-16T22:45:47Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > I haven’t examined this issue at my alma matter yet, I plan to look into it. Just note, the majority of the reporting in the linked article is from the Dartmouth Review, a conservative campus magazine that has IMO an extremely poor and biased reporting record. If they reported that water was wet I’d double check it myself. Their reporting isn’t always wrong, but it pretty much always has an agenda. Oh yeah. EAGnews doesn’t look a whole lot better. There’s some great subversive art in that library–José Clemente Orozco’s Epic of American Civilization. Some alumni wanted to cover over the murals.:smack: ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-lives-matter-protesters-at-dartmouth-college-library/737737/9 "2015-11-16T22:50:03Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > The students using the Dartmouth College Library as a place to study should be allowed to study and learn. The only thing they learned is that loud, obnoxious, assholes are loud, obnoxious, assholes. At various times while studying in that library I was interrupted by people drinking, partying, bizarre performance art near the Orozco Murals, and celebrations of sports victories. While this interruption was pretty loud, a quick look at while at work didn’t show any abusive behavior. It was loud, disruptive protest, exactly what it was intended to be. I’m sure I wouldn’t have been happy about it if I was studying there, but it wouldn’t have been the worst disruption I’d experienced in that library or in other college buildings. It’s all part of the Dartmouth experience. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-lives-matter-protesters-at-dartmouth-college-library/737737/10 "2015-11-17T03:38:01Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > At various times while studying in that library I was interrupted by people drinking, partying, bizarre performance art near the Orozco Murals, and celebrations of sports victories. While this interruption was pretty loud, a quick look at while at work didn’t show any abusive behavior. It was loud, disruptive protest, exactly what it was intended to be. I’m sure I wouldn’t have been happy about it if I was studying there, but it wouldn’t have been the worst disruption I’d experienced in that library or in other college buildings. It’s all part of the Dartmouth experience. 🙂 According to the article, the Black Lives Matter were yelling profanity and racial slurs at students: “F\*\*\* you, you filthy white f_ **s!” protesters shouted at students studying for exams Thursday. “F** _ you and your comfort!” “F\*\*\* you, you racist s\*\*\*!” they screamed between relentless chants of “Black lives matter!” Then they went on to physical assault: They opened up study spaces to harass those who didn’t want to join their cause, hurling racist epithets and shoving fellow students that didn’t share their enthusiasm for black power. Here is an article about the event, written by one of the protesters. The author says he saw no physical violence, but confirms the racial slurs and aggressive harassment and intimidation. So even if the physical assault charges turn out to be untrue, this was obviously worse than just being loud and obnoxious. It was extremely and aggressively racist bullying, and that’s a lot worse than merely being loud. > **[I was proud to be part of last night's protest until it turned ugly](https://thetab.com/us/dartmouth/2015/11/14/i-was-proud-to-be-part-of-last-nights-protest-until-it-turned-ugly-978)** > > Hundreds of Dartmouth students and community members participated in the blackout protest last night. I was proud to be one of them ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-lives-matter-protesters-at-dartmouth-college-library/737737/11 "2015-11-17T04:12:59Z")
> [@ITR\_champion](#): > > According to the article As I said upthread, I don’t consider that news source to be reliable. I lived through the creation and heyday of The Review and they are known for making things up that server their agenda. I simply don’t trust them to be accurate, based on real world experience with them. > [@ITR\_champion](#): > > Here is an article about the event, written by one of the protesters. The author says he saw no physical violence, but confirms the racial slurs and aggressive harassment and intimidation. I agree, it sounds pretty bad and I have no doubt some of these protesters went way too far, were obnoxious and verbally abusive, and ultimately unhelpful to their cause. It’s bad, and their should be some consequences for their actions by the Dartmouth administration. Protesting doesn’t give you carte blanche; I’d be perfectly happy if some of the protesters can be identified that there be academic punishment, up to suspension from school for a trimester or more.