# Black Metal Veins, good god! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 5, 2013, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-metal-veins-good-god/649378 "2013-02-05T10:32:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-metal-veins-good-god/649378/1 "2013-02-05T10:32:07Z")
:eek:…:eek:…:eek::eek: I think this has to win some kind of award as the single grossest drug addict documentary ever produced, I’m not exactly some sober prude either and it made my monocle fall off. Its just gross period, these people live in hell. If this thing isn’t faked or scripted I’m not even sure how many non-drug crimes are documented. Statutory rape, intentionally trying to inject a fetus with heroin(I’m not joking) it goes on. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-metal-veins-good-god/649378/2 "2013-02-05T10:47:10Z")
Link? Description? Anything? ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-metal-veins-good-god/649378/3 "2013-02-05T11:30:26Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Link? Description? Anything? > **[Black Metal Veins (Video 2012) ⭐ 6.1 | Documentary](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2402582/)** > > 1h 32m > [@](#): > > Black Metal Veins unflinchingly documents the dark realities of despair and morbid self annihilation surrounding the lives of five heroin junkies. The addicts’ intertwining stories of pain, loss, sadness, and abandonment lead the viewer down the agonizing and hideous path of horrifying psychological and spiritual destruction as the grim disease of heroin addiction infects and decays the bodies and minds of five young people. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2013, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-metal-veins-good-god/649378/4 "2013-02-05T13:21:07Z")
> [@grude](#): > > I think this has to win some kind of award as the single grossest drug addict documentary ever produced, I dunno… I still think krokodil beats heroin on all counts for drug-induced horror. Well, OK, the krokodil addicts probably don’t engage in much crime due to the flesh falling off their limbs which does limit one’s ability to do things, but _other_ than that… _:::shudder::::_. ---
**Author:** ![TPWombat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbce88/32.png) [@TPWombat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TPWombat)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-metal-veins-good-god/649378/5 "2013-02-06T15:54:55Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I dunno… I still think krokodil beats heroin on all counts for drug-induced horror. Well, OK, the krokodil addicts probably don’t engage in much crime due to the flesh falling off their limbs which does limit one’s ability to do things, but _other_ than that… _:::shudder::::_. First I’d heard of this drug. Just did some googling, and oh my god. Oh. My. God. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-metal-veins-good-god/649378/6 "2013-02-06T16:09:06Z")
There’s a threshold at which the abject depressingness of all these junkie exposés exceeds my morbid curiosity to watch them, and based on the description I think this one probably qualifies. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-metal-veins-good-god/649378/7 "2013-02-06T16:13:10Z")
> [@grude](#): > > intentionally trying to inject a fetus with heroin(I’m not joking). What?! Why would someone do that? Like…I don’t see the point. Do they think the fetus wants to get high with them, or something? I mean…if I’m a junkie, why would I want to waste MY heroin on someone else? At least not for someone that can’t give me money/sex/something else in return for it? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-metal-veins-good-god/649378/8 "2013-02-06T17:15:59Z")
Not sure how that would even work. An aborted fetus, or a viable one? Do they keep poking around in her abdomen until they feel a kick? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-metal-veins-good-god/649378/9 "2013-02-06T21:56:47Z")
It’s my understanding that virtually all of the physical harm from heroin addiction is due to the street drug being cut with garbage; medically pure heroin doesn’t do much to you in terms of physical health. > [@Broomstick](#): > > I dunno… I still think krokodil beats heroin on all counts for drug-induced horror. Well, OK, the krokodil addicts probably don’t engage in much crime due to the flesh falling off their limbs which does limit one’s ability to do things, but _other_ than that… _:::shudder::::_. > [@TPWombat](#): > > First I’d heard of this drug. Just did some googling, and oh my god. Oh. My. God. :eek: Every time krokodil comes up, the advice I hear is “don’t google it.” I never have, and the reaction of those who do convinces me this is a wise policy. ---
**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-metal-veins-good-god/649378/10 "2013-02-06T22:10:04Z")
Yeah. I just googled it and I really wish I hadn’t. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-metal-veins-good-god/649378/11 "2013-02-06T22:15:16Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > It’s my understanding that virtually all of the physical harm from heroin addiction is due to the street drug being cut with garbage; medically pure heroin doesn’t do much to you in terms of physical health. > > Every time krokodil comes up, the advice I hear is “don’t google it.” I never have, and the reaction of those who do convinces me this is a wise policy. I googled it last time it came up. I honestly thought that was photoshopped imagery. Gross even so but alas it was real. Talk about not being able to unsee. ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-metal-veins-good-god/649378/12 "2013-02-06T23:48:13Z")
You’ve piqued my interest. My deep, abiding love for the dark side of mankind has me curious to seek this out. I’ve also been known to perversely enjoy pictures of krokodil addicts, though (and the penultimate scene in _Martyrs_) so YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-metal-veins-good-god/649378/13 "2013-02-06T23:55:10Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > It’s my understanding that virtually all of the physical harm from heroin addiction is due to the street drug being cut with garbage; medically pure heroin doesn’t do much to you in terms of physical health. Evidence 1A: Keith Richards. As long as you can afford to not go through withdrawals and have a continuous supply of the good stuff, you can shoot heroin for life. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-metal-veins-good-god/649378/14 "2013-02-06T23:57:10Z")
> [@Sattua](#): > > Yeah. I just googled it and I really wish I hadn’t. Me too… \>\_\< I’m going to go throw up forever now ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-metal-veins-good-god/649378/15 "2013-02-07T00:44:14Z")
Ugh. Vascular ulcers. The worst. I’ve seen some 15 years old and still not healing - but it sounds like the Krokodil addicts are dying long before that’s an issue. Seriously, don’t google it. I’m the weird nurse chick who’s actually fascinated with unusual wounds and wound care and I’m grossed out and saddened. This stuff is just fucking sick. ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-metal-veins-good-god/649378/16 "2013-02-07T00:53:49Z")
> [@Sattua](#): > > Yeah. I just googled it and I really wish I hadn’t. I had to look, I am now off to scrub my brain with a toothbrush in the hopes I can get rid of those images. WTholyF is that stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-metal-veins-good-god/649378/17 "2013-02-07T01:32:02Z")
Well, I was curious as well, but thoroughly warned above, [I confined myself to Wikipedia and their description.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desomorphine) Seems the problems with this drug is from it being improperly prepared, along with the usual problems associated with uneducated, poor, drugged, stupid, and indifferent, needle users. In an uncharacteristic display of restraint, I’m not gonna Google it further. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-metal-veins-good-god/649378/18 "2013-02-07T02:03:52Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > What?! Why would someone do that? Like…I don’t see the point. Do they think the fetus wants to get high with them, or something? > > I mean…if I’m a junkie, why would I want to waste MY heroin on someone else? At least not for someone that can’t give me money/sex/something else in return for it? A woman announces she is pregnant, then the bearded dude can be seen injecting heroin into her uterine area. ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-metal-veins-good-god/649378/19 "2013-02-07T02:05:45Z")
I find the most extreme pics of the kroc damages to be suspect. Seems there are like 5-6 extreme pics that are repeated across the Web over and over. The ones where the people are showing massive muscle loss and exposed bone on their arms look photo shopped to me. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-metal-veins-good-god/649378/20 "2013-02-07T02:13:38Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > Well, I was curious as well, but thoroughly warned above, [I confined myself to Wikipedia and their description.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desomorphine) Seems the problems with this drug is from it being improperly prepared, along with the usual problems associated with uneducated, poor, drugged, stupid, and indifferent, needle users. > > In an uncharacteristic display of restraint, I’m not gonna Google it further. More or less; it’s my understanding that the “attraction” of krokodil is that it can be made by unskilled people with extremely cheap ingredients. The result being a horrible mix of nasty substances that happens to have the drug desomorphine in it. It’s not quite the same as with heroin, where you have a relatively safe drug that has contaminates added. With krokodil, the contaminants are a direct result of how the stuff is made. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-metal-veins-good-god/649378.md?page=2)