# Black Mirror 5.02 "Rachel, Jack, and Ashley too" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 5, 2019, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-5-02-rachel-jack-and-ashley-too/835052 "2019-06-05T04:50:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-5-02-rachel-jack-and-ashley-too/835052/21 "2019-06-24T20:19:22Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > Didn’t they include a bit of that song from the episode where everyone was peddling bicycles and the girl wanted to be a star? Yeah, “Anyone Who Knows What Love Is.” They love putting that song in as many places as possible. And I was expecting the kids to crash in the final chase and get posthumously blamed for kidnapping the unconscious Ashley. ---
**Author:** ![cormac262](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@cormac262](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cormac262)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-5-02-rachel-jack-and-ashley-too/835052/22 "2019-06-26T16:02:47Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > And I was expecting the kids to crash in the final chase and get posthumously blamed for kidnapping the unconscious Ashley. I was thinking a more “Black Mirror” type ending would be: - Ashley too carries out her plan and terminates the real Ashley - But the aunt catches them, and - plugs the Ashley too into the “virtual Ashley” projection and she’s back in business. (Ashley too doesn’t/can’t not abide since the Aunt now has endless copies of her consciousness, and each Ashley too does not wish to be terminated). ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-5-02-rachel-jack-and-ashley-too/835052/23 "2019-06-28T14:19:13Z")
So does this count as a happy-ending episode? San Junipero (which was mentioned in this episode) may be the only other happy ending. Unless you count revenge as a happy ending. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-5-02-rachel-jack-and-ashley-too/835052/24 "2019-07-02T22:18:47Z")
Miley played the main stage at Glastonbury this past weekend with a highly entertaining and wildly varied set. She covered Amy Winehouse, Led Zep and Metallica, and that was just the first fifteen minutes or so. Obviously her own stuff too, and the seemingly obligatory cover of her godmother’s _Jolene_. Anyway, later on her dad and Lil Nas came on and did _Old Town Road_ (which the crowd loved) while Miley went backstage. She came back on in character as Ashley O, did Ashley’s song and of course segued it into Nine Inch Nails’ _Head Like a Hole_. Rock, and indeed, Roll. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-5-02-rachel-jack-and-ashley-too/835052/25 "2019-07-03T12:25:27Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > So does this count as a happy-ending episode? …absolutely. > [@](#): > > San Junipero (which was mentioned in this episode) may be the only other happy ending. Unless you count revenge as a happy ending. Depends what you mean by “happy ending.” USS Callister, Hang the DJ, Black Museum, Striking Vipers and Rachel, Jack and Ashley Too all had endings that I would classify as “happy”: the good guys won, the bad guys lost, and there wasn’t any evil twist that re-contextualised the entire story. Hated in the Nation the good guys didn’t strictly “win”: but I include it in my own personal list of “good endings” and even Nosedive ended on a triumphant note for the main character, even though they were locked up in jail. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-5-02-rachel-jack-and-ashley-too/835052/26 "2019-07-03T13:20:21Z")
Definitely a happy ending, specially considering the whole thing was a giant fuck you to Disney. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-5-02-rachel-jack-and-ashley-too/835052.md?page=1)