# Black Mirror coming back in June

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-coming-back-in-june/983240>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, netflix\
**Created:** [April 26, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-coming-back-in-june/983240 "2023-04-26T23:54:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-coming-back-in-june/983240/1 "2023-04-26T23:54:56Z")

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Some big names in the [teaser](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hpoyJlQe5Y).

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-coming-back-in-june/983240/2 "2023-04-26T23:58:00Z")

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Yes, can hardly wait!

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-coming-back-in-june/983240/3 "2023-04-27T00:02:20Z")

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Man, I STILL haven’t girded my loins enough to finish watching what’s already been made. This is a great, great anthology show but I have to prepare, steel and brace, order anti-depressants, get tickets to Disney The Happiest Place in the World and hide all nooses before I can watch an episode.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-coming-back-in-june/983240/4 "2023-04-27T00:07:30Z")

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I thought season 5 was mostly terrible. Bandersnatch was meh. If it gets back to the 50% absolutely amazing and 50% mediocre of seasons 1-4, I’ll be pleased.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-coming-back-in-june/983240/5 "2023-04-27T00:19:18Z")

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As a modern successor to the original Sterling _Twilight Zone_ I like _Black Mirror_ but at this point reality is kind of overtaking many of the plotlines of earlier series. I mean, the British haven’t yet had a Prime Minister fucking a pig on television but I feel like they came pretty close with Boris, and we’re about another MCU phase away from actual murderbots and soldiers wired to see everyone as an enemy combatant. I’m not sure what they’re even going to do that won’t risk being overtaken by current events between production and release.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-coming-back-in-june/983240/6 "2023-04-27T00:30:07Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> I thought season 5 was mostly terrible. Bandersnatch was meh. If it gets back to the 50% absolutely amazing and 50% mediocre of seasons 1-4, I’ll be pleased.

This is correct. I hope the new episodes are much better.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-coming-back-in-june/983240/7 "2023-04-27T00:30:32Z")

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One of my favorite early episodes is when a woman signs up for a service to email her, then call her, etc in the voice of her dead husband. That’s possible, both text and speech, today. Now, LLMs aren’t quite as good as the show, and they might need more training data, but the basic technology is just there. That’s pretty cool; I liked that episode more because how plausible it was (less so when the robot gets there).

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-coming-back-in-june/983240/8 "2023-04-27T00:31:06Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> I mean, the British haven’t yet had a Prime Minister fucking a pig on television but I feel like they came pretty close with Boris…

That was David Cameron:

> **[David Cameron Accused of Sex Act With a Dead Pig](https://www.thedailybeast.com/david-cameron-accused-of-sex-act-with-a-dead-pig)**
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> The prime minister is now facing a ‘Bae of Pigs’ crisis, after a new book alleges he had carnal knowledge of a dead pig.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-coming-back-in-june/983240/9 "2023-04-27T01:00:25Z")

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That was more ‘creepy bro’ activity, but still uncomfortably close to Charlie Brooker’s imagination. Honestly, I’m not sure I want to know what he’s thinking about for this next series because it seems all too likely to come to pass.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-coming-back-in-june/983240/10 "2023-04-27T01:11:17Z")

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What I liked about the infamous pig episode is that, unlike basically all of the other episodes, it actually didn’t utilize any fictional technology. It was able to explore a seemingly outlandish scenario without making up anything that didn’t already exist. I guess _Shut Up And Dance_ is another one like that. That’s two episodes out of 22, and they were among the most emotionally impactful. I think that proves they don’t need to rehash the “human consciousness trapped in some kind of device” thing over and over again. There’s potential. I agree with others that the last few seasons sucked. The last truly powerful episode, to me, was _Black Museum._ I thought most of the rest of Season 4, and all of Season 5, sucked.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-coming-back-in-june/983240/11 "2023-04-27T01:29:39Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> As a modern successor to the original Sterling _Twilight Zone_ I like _Black Mirror_ but at this point reality is kind of overtaking many of the plotlines of earlier series

This is why the show runner stopped making them. He said real life was way worse than anything he could think of.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-coming-back-in-june/983240/12 "2023-04-27T01:31:29Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> This is why the show runner stopped making them. He said real life was way worse than anything he could think of.

I like to imagine that someone came to him in mid-2016 with a story pitch about a game show host being elected president and he said, “Nah, that’s too far even for this show,” and then…

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-coming-back-in-june/983240/13 "2023-04-27T01:49:08Z")

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I certainly hope they stop giving tech-bros ideas about how to make the future suck more.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-coming-back-in-june/983240/14 "2023-04-27T01:56:30Z")

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“So, this billionaire, see, he buys a struggling social media platform on a dare, and then…”

Stranger

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**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-coming-back-in-june/983240/15 "2023-04-27T04:42:02Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> I thought season 5 was mostly terrible. Bandersnatch was meh. If it gets back to the 50% absolutely amazing and 50% mediocre of seasons 1-4, I’ll be pleased.

I would rate Series 5 the same as Series 2: one good (but not mind-blowing) episode, one okay episode, and one episode I didn’t care for.

The number of Black Mirror episodes I would rate as “absolutely amazing” is well short of 50%, in my experience.

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**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-coming-back-in-june/983240/16 "2023-04-27T11:50:37Z")

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Charlie Brooker seemed to have run out of ideas somewhat. The earlier episodes that were originally broadcast on Channel 4 in the UK were definitely more varied. Since Netflix bought it he has relied on the old trope of artificial intelligence/consciousness far too much. Although I must admit I did enjoy the episode that was a homage to Star Trek. As for Black Museum episode, the best segment of that, about the doctor who got off on other people’s pain, was based on a story written by Penn of Penn and Teller fame, believe it or not!

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-coming-back-in-june/983240/17 "2023-04-27T11:55:26Z")

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> [@iamatractorboy](#):
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> Charlie Brooker seemed to have run out of ideas somewhat…

I would 100% agree. I love Charlie Brooker and honestly prefer him as a panel show guest or cultural analyst, but the first couple seasons of Black Mirror were great. I think there are only so many stories about the bleakness of the modern world you can tell.

I’ll definitely watch the new season, though. He might have one or two good ones.

How many episodes is this new season?

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**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-coming-back-in-june/983240/18 "2023-04-27T12:02:46Z")

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As an unpatriotic Brit, I usually much prefer American films and TV. But in the case of Black Mirror, the transition from grubby British misery sci-fi to slick American misery sci-fi hasn’t really worked for me. It’s probably still worth a watch though.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-coming-back-in-june/983240/19 "2023-04-27T14:05:05Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> How many episodes is this new season?

I can’t find it anywhere but given the amount of star power i saw in that trailer I’d guess six.

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-coming-back-in-june/983240/20 "2023-04-27T14:10:49Z")

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Can someone name the star power from the clip. While I do recognize some faces, I’m not up to speed on the newer stars names. I’ll propably slap my forehead when I hear them.

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