# Black mirror -why?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-why/835270>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 9, 2019, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-why/835270 "2019-06-09T23:14:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2019, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-why/835270/82 "2019-06-12T20:09:25Z")

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[quote=“msmith537, post:79, topic:835270”]

Black Mirror presents us with a disturbing parallel world where Trent Reznor doesn’t exist but his music has been turned into aspirational dance pop Hanna Montana songs.

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I thought it was a bit novel that they turned Head Like a Hole into a kicky pop song, though hearing it so many times during the episode did wear on me. The grunged up version at the end was pretty bad. At the end of the episode my wife critiqued it with a simple “That was terrible.”

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-why/835270/83 "2019-06-13T01:23:26Z")

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Yeah, I watched the first episode, hated it, and all it made me think was “why am I wasting time on this garbage when there’s so much other garbage, some of which I might actually enjoy, I could be watching instead?” and never even thought of watching another episode. I think I decided to watch for the first time the entire (original) Twin Peaks series instead around then. Weird yes, but a more fun kind of weird.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-why/835270/84 "2019-06-13T01:30:04Z")

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> [@paulmarkj](#):
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> The point is not the act of f\*\*\*\*\*\* a pig, it is the notion of what technology and social media have become - as all the episodes are. It is the questions it asks - real questions.
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> What would a leader do to keep his job?
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> What would a leader do to to save a life? Could he say no? Would you say no?
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> It doesn’t have to be sex with a pig, but it has to be something repulsive, otherwise it doesn’t work!
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> BTW: look up what a previous PM (Cameron did at university).
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> Otherwise, just stick to a safe film, like James Bond - it won’t tax you, it won’t ask any difficult questions.

Agreed. And how the media was just wetting itself to be able to report it. That first episode made me want to watch all of the rest. Not because of the pig fucking, but because I knew that this show would hold nothing back and explore any topic.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-why/835270/85 "2019-06-13T03:20:00Z")

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I like that it attempts to go places that other shows don’t. Definitely hit and miss, but overall I quite like the show.

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**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-why/835270/86 "2019-06-13T03:22:58Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Watch **USS Calister** for a treat.

^^^^ this

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-why/835270/87 "2019-06-13T12:00:39Z")

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> [@singular1](#):
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> Well that’s pretty damn rude and presumptuous. Thankfully there were a lot of thoughtful answers to my post that were actually helpful, many of which tell friends to avoid the first episode. I will go back and try more episodes - hopefully my tiny little dull brain won’t get hurt. Thanks for looking out for me. :rolleyes:

And sort of amusing too given he can’t type out the word fucking.

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**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-why/835270/88 "2019-06-14T22:28:18Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> Agreed. And how the media was just wetting itself to be able to report it. That first episode made me want to watch all of the rest. Not because of the pig fucking, but because I knew that this show would hold nothing back and explore any topic.

Agreed. I get that people are squeamish, but I’m way more disturbed by the many episodes where fully sentient digital simulacra are endlessly tortured for extremely petty gain.

I thought the most recent season was refreshingly less oppressively dystopian than previous seasons. The episodes are still dark, but not “trapped in a digital hellscape for eternity” dark.

An episode that I liked a lot that I don’t recall seeing mentioned here is Be Right Back from S2.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-why/835270/89 "2019-06-14T22:59:58Z")

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[Black Mirror in Medieval times.](https://youtu.be/y1aSqZ23ydk)

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**Post date:** [June 15, 2019, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-why/835270/90 "2019-06-15T03:04:48Z")

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I’m in the minority in that I liked the pig fucking episode and none of the rest. I thought the first episode was funny, dark and pretty interesting, but every other episode was the same thing over and over.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-mirror-why/835270/91 "2019-06-15T16:48:29Z")

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I just got done with the first 4 seasons.

I do wonder if it’s mixing “futurism” and sadism too closely. It’s so prominent in season 4 that I forget how much was in the prior ones. Digital hell is a great idea but doing it every week is a little much.

That being said I thought USS Callister was about he best sci fi I know of. I have never become a sci fi person, mainly because there weren’t enough great flicks for me. I am never riveted to the screen anymore, it seems, but this one had me.

My least favorite would be the first one and the black museum. This last one seemed a little incoherent, and had a reprise of the digital hell theme too soon after the other ones. It’s very clever anyway.

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