# Black on white crime! **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 18, 1999, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-on-white-crime/17038 "1999-11-18T16:38:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 1999, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-on-white-crime/17038/101 "1999-12-16T06:59:00Z")
> [@](#): > > ExTank said: > > “But I don’t think, on general principle, that a topic or person should be banned from this board just because it and they are socially vile, as long as they can be (in the moderator’s opinion) intelligent and coherent.” > > So you can be an ass as long as your intelligent and coherent? Sorry, I’m not buying it. You can’t compare Klanman with anyone intelligent or coherent. I would love to enter a debate with a truly evil person that was intelligent, but this schmuck uses little gems that show nothing of value to me or any right thinking adult. I come here to learn and I don’t need Klanman to remind me that there are plenty who have never tried. –Occam Interesting selectivity you have there. You seem to have completely ignored the sentence preceding the one you quoted: > [@](#): > > “From what I’m hearing from the rest of you, Klansman isn’t the nicest person, or very intelligent or well-spoken (written?); it may very well be a good thing that he’s being censored for being a jerk.” –Me I think I indicated pretty clearly that, other than the OP for _this_ thread, I hadn’t read any other of Klansman’s posts. I also indicated that, from the context of other people’s comments concerning Klansman, that it may very well be a good thing if he and his topics are yanked But from what I saw in the OP (a link to an article by a respected columnist and Professor of Economics at a noted university, and a solicitation for comment) there was no reason to ban this topic or Klansman, based upon what I had seen _in this thread._ If he learns to behave, let him play with the other children. You also entirely missed my point that hatred doesn’t neccesarily equate to stupidity; the latter _can_ certainly contribute to the former, but it isn’t a universal truism. And lastly, I stated fairly unequivocally that _I felt_ that a topic or member should not be yanked based upon the political correctness of their post or views, as long as they can be reasnoably civil about it, _ **in the moderator’s opinion.** _ If you disagree, that’s your prerogative; just don’t climb in my face because your selectivity knob’s been twirled too far to the left. _ **\ExTank** _\ ---
**Author:** ![PatronAnejo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac8455/32.png) [@PatronAnejo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatronAnejo)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 1999, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-on-white-crime/17038/102 "1999-12-18T07:15:00Z")
Was anyone else surprised by the number of articulate posts under this topic? Obviously posted by a vulgar racist, I nearly dismissed this topic out-of-hand–then I noticed that this topic spanned three pages. Look what I would have missed! No surprise to see **tomndebb** dominating with that combination of well-considered position and well-informed support. And what’s with **John John** swinging from reasonably articulate to obsessive mentation? **Libertarian** was hilarious in egging him on (btw Libertarian, are you [[b"]Momotaro\*\*](http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/003087.html)?); **nebuli** rivals tomndebb in articulate, well-formed argument; **Lonesome Polecat** improbably produces support for his assertions; **andros** exposes bullshit with absolutely no ceremony … none of this would have happened if this topic and **klanman** had been immediatly locked down and tossed. Certainly, there is no excuse for bigotry–which KM transparently couches in euphemisms like “unorthodox un-PC views” and I question the sincerity of his commitment to play nice, but I don’t believe anything positive can come out of excluding him. The participants in this forum are sufficiently articulate and powerful to keep the dynamic in the domain of civilized discussion. ---
**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 1999, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-on-white-crime/17038/103 "1999-12-18T12:51:00Z")
…Patron > [@](#): > > but I don’t believe anything positive can come out of excluding him. The participants in this forum are sufficiently articulate and powerful to keep the dynamic in the domain of civilized discussion. That was my feelings also. You really shouldn’t exclude someone just because you don’t share their ideals, whatever they are. Uh, my mental acuity surprises you ? * * * Y2K, BFD [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-on-white-crime/17038.md?page=5)