# Black Panther movie (Marvel Cinematic Universe) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [October 16, 2017, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050 "2017-10-16T13:44:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/321 "2018-03-09T20:51:14Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > What did he need the vibranium for? Stealing the Vibranium was what got the Wakandans to take notice. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/322 "2018-03-09T20:51:29Z")
I may have missed something–I thought Klaue was the one who knew where Wakanda was, and Killmonger needed him for that. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/323 "2018-03-09T20:57:32Z")
Reading up on it, Killmonger had his dad’s notes, so he also knew how to get there (I may or may not have taken a bathroom break during this scene). However, it’s a fair point: even if he had the technical right to challenge on Challenge Day, there’s a decent chance he wouldn’t have been allowed to do so. His sudden appearance could have slowed everything down, and the shaman character knew about his dad and might have put the kibosh on things. By coming in with Klaue, having humiliated T’Challa and having gained an ally at the same time, he was walking into an unstable situation. Things progressed quickly enough that nobody caught on to his (or his dad’s) treachery in time. ---
**Author:** ![Kimera757](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimera757/32/3765_2.png) [@Kimera757](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimera757)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/324 "2018-03-09T21:31:37Z")
Saw it. Awesome. Favorite moments include: [spoiler]Telescoping spear that can bypass x-ray scanner. Her opponent was really surprised. To paraphrase Revolver Ocelet; “---- me, that’s a spear!” (It was a sword, in a great webcomic, not the original game.) Okoye is such a great character! I really liked the villain. I always think that makes the movie. “Witness the might of the Jabari tribe. Firsthand!” Put him in every movie Black Panther appears in, please.[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/325 "2018-03-10T17:07:43Z")
Rhino Guy? Gorilla Guy? You guys didn’t _really_ have that much trouble keeping track of the names, did you? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/326 "2018-03-10T18:16:39Z")
> [@Reluctant\_A](#): > > Rhino Guy? Gorilla Guy? You guys didn’t _really_ have that much trouble keeping track of the names, did you? I couldn’t tell you what those guys were called either. Or funky eye guy, or Killmongers dad. Not even Bilbo. ---
**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/327 "2018-03-10T18:44:01Z")
Huh. It never would have occurred to me that the names were that hard to remember. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/328 "2018-03-10T20:06:25Z")
T’Challa and Klaue are the only names I can remember from the movie. Unless you count “Killmonger”. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/329 "2018-03-10T20:08:49Z")
Rhino Guy is W’kabi. Gorilla Guy is M’Baku. Funky-eye Guy is Zuli. Bilbo is Agent Ross. Killmonger’s dad I’ll give you. His real name was mentioned maybe twice in the whole movie. (Looking it up, it was N’Jobu.) ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/330 "2018-03-10T20:09:51Z")
I do remember Shuri Nakia and Okoye. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/331 "2018-03-10T22:22:35Z")
I think I already mentioned it in the thread, but I have a hard time with names even when they’re names familiar to me, and when I have an opportunity to see them written. It’s much harder when the names come from an unfamiliar culture, and I only hear them. I’m not sure who “funky-eye guy” is supposed to be, though. I don’t remember anyone with funky eyes from the movie. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/332 "2018-03-10T22:33:40Z")
Yeah, anyone who not only remembers all those names but is baffled by anyone else’s failure to do so after one viewing of the movie, has a brain very different from mine. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/333 "2018-03-10T22:33:52Z")
Zuli was played by Forest Whitaker. ---
**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/334 "2018-03-10T22:36:28Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Yeah, anyone who not only remembers all those names but is baffled by anyone else’s failure to do so after one viewing of the movie, has a brain very different from mine. My mistake; I thought that they were distinctive enough to keep track of. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/335 "2018-03-10T22:46:30Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I think I already mentioned it in the thread, but I have a hard time with names even when they’re names familiar to me, and when I have an opportunity to see them written. It’s much harder when the names come from an unfamiliar culture, and I only hear them. > > I’m not sure who “funky-eye guy” is supposed to be, though. I don’t remember anyone with funky eyes from the movie. I think he meant Zuri. The priest guy that knew the secret of killmonger’s parentage. But I have to admit that I cheated on that, looked it up on IMDB. (Not the funky eye’d guy, I remember him being the priest, but the name, and I had to look it up to make sure it was the right guy I was thinking of.) ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/336 "2018-03-10T22:59:18Z")
Forest Whitaker would probably be pleased to learn there’s at least one person who doesn’t see anything “off” about either of his eyes! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/337 "2018-03-10T23:07:09Z")
OK, now that I Google imaged him, I can see that his left eyelid is droopy. After-effect of a stroke, I’m guessing? But no, I didn’t notice that in the movie. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/338 "2018-03-10T23:28:51Z")
Ptosis. In his case (but not all) it’s hereditary. Whitaker’s pretty hard to miss, especially since he is in approximately 400 movies per year ---
**Author:** ![Quercus\_alba](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quercus_alba/32/4061_2.png) [@Quercus\_alba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quercus_alba)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/339 "2018-03-12T03:19:27Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > … > > The Pan-African vibe was fascinating and slightly weird - one could spot traditional cultural and stylistic references from all over the continent as well as contemporary Western and African elements and all kinds of futuristic stuff, all mashed together in one imaginary culture. And I think it worked, which is a sort of triumph for the film. > … Eh…I found myself thinking “It’s Disney Epcot Africa…” ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/340 "2018-03-12T04:37:32Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > But I have to admit that I cheated on that, looked it up on IMDB. (Not the funky eye’d guy, I remember him being the priest, but the name, and I had to look it up to make sure it was the right guy I was thinking of.) Probably not a great idea to have two distinct characters in the same movie named Shuri and Zuri. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050.md?page=18)