# Black Panther movie (Marvel Cinematic Universe) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [October 16, 2017, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050 "2017-10-16T13:44:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/541 "2018-07-14T13:12:58Z")
Of course, on could also make the point that, once you look past skin color, the Wakandan _culture_ is alien to all Americans, black and white. And so you need outsiders to that culture to act as a window for us. In other words, you need to have someone there who can say “You have hoverbikes!?”. Killmonger, of course, was one such outsider, but I don’t think it would have helped the movie for him to be the only one. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/542 "2018-07-14T13:35:12Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Once again, we’re not talking about protagonists here, even if some people would prefer we did (even though this movie has black protagonists). In supporting roles, nearly every tentpole movie is diverse (including, BTW, the most recent—and excellent—Spider-Man movie). And that’s as it should be. It’s just basic, competent marketing, not to mention PR management. > > For a movie like “Moonlight” to shoehorn in a white character would be quite another matter. But tentpole movies like BP have boxes to check. That’s just how it is. I’m not talking about protagonists. Plenty of movies are all-white (or very nearly so), and any individual all-white movie isn’t a problem. It’s the disproportionate number that’s a problem. Extraordinarily few movies are all-black. Having a small handful of “tentpole” movies each year be all-black wouldn’t be a problem. FWIW, this middle-age white dude thought the most relatable character in the movie was the teenage scientist. Not that I’m a scientist, but we nerds gotta stick together, and I’m way more scientist than I am fighter pilot/secret spy. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2018, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/543 "2018-07-14T16:15:57Z")
On Dunkirk, I agree it’s wrong-headed to complain there was not enough minority representation, given that they made up a relatively small proportion of that force. But I also think the “Political correctness gone MAD” articles which followed were, as usual, wrong. Because there has been a helluva lot of white washing of history, particularly in my home country of Britain: everyone, black and white, has this image of all 20th century wars being fought only by jolly fine chaps with side partings. I guess the idea of recruiting from the colonies never occurred to anyone… ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/544 "2018-08-05T18:26:36Z")
Back on June 3, I [posted](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20997923&postcount=447) about how _Black Panther_ crossed the $699M mark and wondered when/if it would cross $700M domestic. It looked like it wasn’t going to reach it, esp. when a couple weeks ago it shed even more screens. But then the box office bounced up this weekend for some reason. According to preliminary numbers from [Box Office Mojo](https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=marvel2017b.htm) it crossed $700M today. The 171st day in theaters. It had Thursday night previews on Feb. 15th. This weekend numbers are out of line with recent performance so I’m wondering if they are reliable. We’ll see. The foreign total has barely budged so still in the $646M range. As a special added “What tha?” bonus: _BP_ is s\*\*till the number one domestic earner for the year! Well ahead of the new Avengers movie which has no chance of passing it. And there are no movies in release or coming out that could beat it until the holiday movie season. So it could retain the No. 1 spot well into December. All for a movie that was released in February. The formerly traditional “dead” month for movie releases. The performance of this movie is staggering. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/546 "2018-08-06T09:55:46Z")
> [@weedsmokah](#): > > Even though there are a lot of negative reviews about it. I pretty much liked it. The film has a 97% score on Rotten Tomatoes. How many negative reviews could you have found? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/547 "2018-08-06T12:55:28Z")
It wasn’t actually commenting on the movie. It was just looking for innocuous-seeming things to say as camouflage before it dropped its spam bomb. Which has now been defused with extreme prejudice. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2018, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/548 "2018-08-06T12:58:19Z")
Ugh - I should have noticed the time. Noon here is spam o’clock. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050/549 "2020-12-11T14:03:35Z")
Bumped. > **[Black Panther will not be recast following Chadwick Boseman's death | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/10/entertainment/black-panther-chadwick-boseman/index.html)** > > The legacy of the character Black Panther will continue on -- but not with someone new in the iconic role. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-panther-movie-marvel-cinematic-universe/799050.md?page=27)