# Black US servicemen banned from Iceland. Is this true? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [June 14, 2005, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-us-servicemen-banned-from-iceland-is-this-true/308198 "2005-06-14T10:01:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![marky33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@marky33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marky33)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2005, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-us-servicemen-banned-from-iceland-is-this-true/308198/1 "2005-06-14T10:01:15Z")
I have heard that the government of Iceland has an agreement with the government of the United States that no black serviceman will serve on the US’ base(s) in the country. Is this true? ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2005, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-us-servicemen-banned-from-iceland-is-this-true/308198/2 "2005-06-14T10:10:36Z")
That’s rather unlikely. Military units are all fully integrated; you’d have to manually pick out all the black guys before deploying a unit to a base in Iceland. That would of course be a logistical nightmare if there are important black NCOs or officers in the unit (and there probably are.) Further, it seems unlikely that a relatively modern country like Iceland would make such an absurd demand. (Is there much racism in Iceland? I really have no idea. The population is rather homogenous, I have heard.) ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2005, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-us-servicemen-banned-from-iceland-is-this-true/308198/3 "2005-06-14T10:12:44Z")
[Abstract of an academic article:](http://muse.jhu.edu/cgi-bin/access.cgi?uri=/journals/journal_of_cold_war_studies/v006/6.4ingimundarson.html&session=3070495) > [@](#): > > …The article explores two gender-related aspects of the U.S.-Icelandic Cold War relationship: the restrictions on off-base movements of U.S. soldiers, and the secret ban imposed by the Icelandic government on the stationing of black U.S. troops in Iceland. …Although U.S. officials repeatedly tried tohave the restrictions lifted, the Icelandic government refused to modify them until the racial ban was publicly disclosed in late 1959. Even after the practice came to light, it took another several years before the ban was gradually eliminated. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2005, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-us-servicemen-banned-from-iceland-is-this-true/308198/4 "2005-06-14T10:22:33Z")
That this is no longer their policy comes as considerable relief, especially considering Iceland’s recent granting of [citizenship](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4374811.stm) to American chess legend – and fugitive --Bobby Fischer. Not their finest hour, though, on either point. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2005, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-us-servicemen-banned-from-iceland-is-this-true/308198/5 "2005-06-14T10:52:06Z")
Agreed, Scrivener, although to put it in context you might want to consider the racial policies that existed in parts of the US in 1959 and another several years following… ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2005, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-us-servicemen-banned-from-iceland-is-this-true/308198/6 "2005-06-14T18:20:54Z")
> [@GorillaMan](#): > > [Abstract of an academic article:](http://muse.jhu.edu/cgi-bin/access.cgi?uri=/journals/journal_of_cold_war_studies/v006/6.4ingimundarson.html&session=3070495) As the article is restricted to library subscribers, can anyone shed any light on **why** this was Iceland’s policy? I’m curious to know whether there was any more to it than the same-old same-old bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2005, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-us-servicemen-banned-from-iceland-is-this-true/308198/7 "2005-06-14T18:35:43Z")
I’d kind of like to know myself, too. My husband I are making plans to go to the Reykjavic Jazz Festival next year or the year after that. We won’t go if we’re, you know, not exactly welcome. ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2005, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-us-servicemen-banned-from-iceland-is-this-true/308198/8 "2005-06-14T18:55:10Z")
> [@UrbanChic](#): > > I’d kind of like to know myself, too. My husband I are making plans to go to the Reykjavic Jazz Festival next year or the year after that. We won’t go if we’re, you know, not exactly welcome. Don’t make any judgements on a half-century-old piece of evidence - after all, westerners were very welcome on the streets of Baghdad or Kabul in the 1950s. Iceland may have been an insular and prejudiced society then, but it’s not now. It’s got a well-travelled and widely-experienced young population. ---
**Author:** ![Crandolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7cd45c/32.png) [@Crandolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crandolph)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2005, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-us-servicemen-banned-from-iceland-is-this-true/308198/9 "2005-06-14T18:56:20Z")
I was in Iceland 2 yrs ago; it’s still an overwhelmingly white (beyond that overwhelmingly Icelandic, extremely homogenous) society. There are enough Thais and other Asian immigrants (including at least one lady I saw in a smaller town who appeared to be a mail order bride) now that I think the racial purity thing is a thing of the past. It’s a tiny country with a big tourist industry and a modern NATO (predominately US) air base. At this point I don’t think you’d raise eyebrows at a jazz fest (come to think of it, what sort of jazz fest is gonna be all white?!) I’d be surprised if you had any problems. I was on the bus with a black British tourist & his white wife for a bit & no one seemed to give them trouble. Iceland, still under Danish control (and Denmark invaded by Germany), had a little trouble deciding which side of WWII it wanted to be on. I saw a fascinating book in one of the many used book stores in Reykjavik called (this is a language I don’t really read from memory so I could be a bit off): _Islensker Nazisker_ (Icelandic Nazis). It had come out some years before and apparently caused a bit of a fuss as it dredged up the Hitler Youth photos, nationalist/racialist rallies and named names (in a small society where people know each other) of which old folks were involved. It seems that half the population was pretty pro-Nazi in the 40s and I imagine many of those folks were still around in 1959. I wouldn’t hold that against their grandchildren, who seem to be pretty darn liberal on the whole with these things. (There are a couple of racist death metal bands in the Norwegian model, but this is _not_ typical). Have fun, and avoid the _hakarl_! (Yicccchhhh…) ---
**Author:** ![MikeS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MikeS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeS)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2005, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-us-servicemen-banned-from-iceland-is-this-true/308198/10 "2005-06-14T19:09:12Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > As the article is restricted to library subscribers, can anyone shed any light on why this was Iceland’s policy? I’m curious to know whether there was any more to it than the same-old same-old bullshit. Well, basically it was to protect the womenfolk. I kid you not. From the article: > [@](#): > > In 1941, when U.S. troops replaced the British, Icelandic Prime Minister Hermann Jónasson insisted that only elite forces, an unmistakable euphemism for white soldiers, should be sent to Iceland. … By mistake, several black troops were brieºy sent to Iceland to work in kitchens of the U.S. Navy, but they were withdrawn as soon as the Department ofWar realized that their presence violated the Icelandic government s racial policy. Icelandic women who had relationships with white soldiers were ostracized and branded as whores, but when it was revealed that some of the black soldiers had attempted to fraternize with Icelandic women, this was deemed an unpardonable offense. > [@](#): > > In 1963 the Kennedy administration made a further attempt to persuade the Icelandic government to abandon the policy, but the overture once again was met with skepticism and resistance by officials in Reykjavik. This time, Icelandic leaders acknowledged the real reason for their unwillingness to permit black military personnel in Iceland. They said it would create a domestic backlash because of the “threat” of intimate relations between black soldiers and Icelandic women. Returning to arguments made during World War II about the need to protect Icelandic blood and manhood, the government insisted that the reaction of Icelandic men also would be harsh. He also cites a passage from the Icelandic “yellow press”, complaining about a group of forty or so Filipinos working on the island: > [@](#): > > So far, Icelanders have not been faced with the so-called Negro problem or people of color. But it is unnecessary to go into much detail about what terrible conditions this problem has created wherever it has taken root. For this reason, the government supposedly asked the United States government–as part of the Defense Agreement–to make sure that no colored troops would be sent here. Nonetheless, there are plenty of them here, to the joy of many young girls who are totally unable to understand the real danger of reproducing with their help. It is not that these men are worse than other people. On the contrary–but the facts tell us that a color other than white in societies such as ours will always cause friction, hate, and murders. It is not necessary to introduce us Icelanders to the race problem, even if the Americans have to cope with it. ---
**Author:** ![Crandolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7cd45c/32.png) [@Crandolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crandolph)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2005, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-us-servicemen-banned-from-iceland-is-this-true/308198/11 "2005-06-14T19:27:15Z")
I had a high school teacher who was in the Air Force in the late 50s who said that he basically was severely restricted from leaving the base at any time even as a white man. They didn’t want _any_ foreign soldiers carousing (& presumably knocking up the local women) and I could imagine not being white would make things much worse. He told us that in order to get to Keflavik proper for a beer they had to carry fishing poles with them and pretend to fish first. Just walking straight to town for a beer would’ve gotten them into trouble. It seems worthwhile to note that Iceland was a poorer country at the time. Having seen the brothels spring up around military bases in other parts of the world I have to say that the effect of the ban on soldoers visiting town probably wasn’t the worst thing for Icelandic society, even if the a lot of the motivation was repugnant… ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2005, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-us-servicemen-banned-from-iceland-is-this-true/308198/12 "2005-06-14T19:36:11Z")
> [@MikeS](#): > > Well, basically it was to protect the womenfolk. I kid you not. No different to many of the attitudes facing black GIs in Britain at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![Chiefliness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a5b964/32.png) [@Chiefliness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chiefliness)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/black-us-servicemen-banned-from-iceland-is-this-true/308198/13 "2016-02-08T14:28:04Z")
I can attest to the former racist policy of the Icelandic government. I am a retired USAF Veteran. I was stationed in Newfoundland in 1970 at a radar site that closed during my tour of duty. As a Black Airman I was sent back to the States upon the site closing, and the White Airmen were sent to Iceland. I was told that Black Americans could not go to Iceland. I was actually elated especially since I was a 19 year old kid that wanted to get back to the States and my girlfriend. I don’t know when the Icelandic government changed that policy but I just wanted to validate to any non believers that this was in fact a “true” policy.