# blackpeopleloveus.com. WTF????

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blackpeopleloveus-com-wtf/140683>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 5, 2002, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blackpeopleloveus-com-wtf/140683 "2002-12-05T13:35:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blackpeopleloveus-com-wtf/140683/21 "2002-12-07T05:53:40Z")

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Did I say humor was objective? Before I had my first beer on a Friday night?  
Everyone did know what I meant, right?

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**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blackpeopleloveus-com-wtf/140683/22 "2002-12-07T06:04:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Biggirl \*  
> \*\*Did I say humor was objective? Before I had my first beer on a Friday night?  
> Everyone did know what I meant, right? \*\*

Yeah, we knew you meant _sub_jective. I just didn’t want to correct you in fear that I’d be labeled sexist 😉 LOL…

…and why is this before your first beer? It’s midnight, you better get started! If I’m gonna be stuck at home all night with this cold, the least I can expect is some drunken postings on the SDMB. C’mon! Please?🆒

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**Author:** ![raz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@raz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raz)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blackpeopleloveus-com-wtf/140683/23 "2002-12-07T06:13:38Z")

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You guys this pisses me off! I did a thread on this website about a month ago and someone was like “yeah this thread has been done before, maybe you should search before posting!” or something to that effect. Oh well, the site’s funny anyway! And I am in no way mad at the starter of this thread for stealing my thread idea! I’m sure you worded it better, anyway. 😃

The point of the website is to show people how mundane and ridiculous racial stereotypes can be, and when people say things like “I’m not racist, I have black friends!”, that’s racism right there.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blackpeopleloveus-com-wtf/140683/24 "2002-12-07T06:27:04Z")

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This site is pretty damn funny. I do have one question, though. One of the comments by their black “friends” is: “Sally uses a washcloth in the shower and scrubs herself!!” Which made me laugh harder than anything else in there, but mostly for it’s apparent totally non-sequiter nature. Is there something being referenced there that I’m just not getting, or is it just a wierd-for-wierd’s-sake sort of thing?

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**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blackpeopleloveus-com-wtf/140683/25 "2002-12-07T06:28:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by blink178 \*  
> \*\*  
> The point of the website is to show people how mundane and ridiculous racial stereotypes can be, and when people say things like “I’m not racist, I have black friends!”, that’s racism right there. \*\*

It’s cliched, but I’m not sure it’s rac_ist_. It’s race-_conscious_, surely. I think the logic must be:

A.) I have black friends.  
B.) Black people wouldn’t be friends with a racist.  
C.) Therefore, I am not a racist.

It’s not really a flawed reasoning (so long as they’re good enough friends that they would _know_ if you were a racist), just a cliched cop-out. If somebody suggests you are a racist, you should examine what you said that touched off that remark. If there was something of substance that you said leading to the person’s belief you are a racist, you should attack _that_ issue in your defense, rather than use a cliched response to dodge the accusation. Clear up the misunderstanding, don’t avoid it. Or, if you think the accusation was groundless, just ignore it or brush it off. That, IMHO, is the way to deal with it.

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**Author:** ![raz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@raz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raz)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blackpeopleloveus-com-wtf/140683/26 "2002-12-07T07:19:06Z")

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Ok **RexDart,** you clarafied what I was trying to say. What I kind of meant to say was when someone says they aren’t racist because they have black friends, they are still kind of singaling out black people (or any other race for that matter) and making it seem like “Hey! Look at me! Everyone is equal! I have a BLACK friend!”. Whereas if a person saw everyone as truly equal, race wouldn’t be a factor at all.

Sorry if that makes no sense, it sounded fine in my head.

🙂

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**Author:** ![PhiloVance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@PhiloVance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhiloVance)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blackpeopleloveus-com-wtf/140683/27 "2002-12-07T07:48:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Eve \*  
> There was a big _NY Times_ article about it recently—\*\*the authors (a white brother and sister) \*\*create various spoof web sites, and thought this would be a hoot. Had no idea it would take off as it has, though.

Bolding mine…

Is this an honest mistake? If not, it’s a heck of an oxymoron. Also I got a big kick out of it. 😃

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**Author:** ![PhiloVance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@PhiloVance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhiloVance)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blackpeopleloveus-com-wtf/140683/28 "2002-12-07T07:51:04Z")

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D’oh, forgot to comment on the site…it was great! 🆒 :smack:

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**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blackpeopleloveus-com-wtf/140683/29 "2002-12-07T09:06:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by blink178 \*  
> \*\*Ok **RexDart,** you clarafied what I was trying to say. What I kind of meant to say was when someone says they aren’t racist because they have black friends, they are still kind of singaling out black people (or any other race for that matter) and making it seem like “Hey! Look at me! Everyone is equal! I have a BLACK friend!”. Whereas if a person saw everyone as truly equal, race wouldn’t be a factor at all.
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> Sorry if that makes no sense, it sounded fine in my head.
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> 🙂 \*\*

I get your meaning. It really is a fine line between being _aware_ of race, and allowing race to determine how you relate to people. If you define your friends by their race, your aren’t a very good friend, and I’ll leave it at that, eh? We can leave the deeper stuff to the existential philosophers, we’re on the same page at least. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blackpeopleloveus-com-wtf/140683/30 "2002-12-07T11:52:58Z")

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Sally is extremely hot. I would tap that fo sho!

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**Author:** ![Cardinal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal/32/4000_2.png) [@Cardinal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardinal)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blackpeopleloveus-com-wtf/140683/31 "2002-12-07T12:53:57Z")

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I think it’s pretty funny. Some of my friends’ parents live in areas where they just don’t run into black people. If you’re in the middle of rural Kansas, you don’t have many opportunities. If you’re white upper-middle class in Texas, you don’t tend to be associating with many black people, and certainly not those who don’t have very similar belief sets and backgrounds.

This leads not to blatant racisim, but a definitely noticable attitude of “us” and “them”. Then again, I think we’re all a little racist unless we have a LOT of contact with people of other looks. If you only know a few of a “type”, then you tend to subconciously assume that the rest of the group is very similar. It works in so many areas of life that it’s almost impossible to stop.

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**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2002, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blackpeopleloveus-com-wtf/140683/32 "2002-12-11T17:16:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by RexDart \*  
> \*\*  
> Then there are the people who try to go way overboard into things they consider part of black culture, like hiphop music, but they never shed their fears of actual black people.
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> Friendships shouldn’t be race-conscious, they should be based exclusively on…well, friendliness, I suppose. As **Oblong** put it, if you’re bending over backwards to avoid being labelled a racist, or if you’re trying to show how “hip” you are whenever you’re around that person, then your relation to the other person is based on their race, not them as a person. \*\*

Well, the funniest moments are when people show their subconscious racism. My mom, for example…our family is white, and my mom is definitely not consciously a racist…she actually had a black boyfriend for 5 years.  
Once she decide that since rap was a valid new poetry form, she should become proficient in writing it. There are few things funnier than a white suburban Jewish Baby Boomer mom reciting her newly written raps to her high school-age daughter and daughter’s friends. My sister (who is a big rap/R&B aficionado, and frequently says she was born the wrong color) was absolutely mortified.

Fast-forward a few years, to Passover Seder at the Eva Luna Mom’s household; my sister invites her black boyfriend to Seder, which is nothing unusual, as we have always invited non-Jewish friends/significant others for holidays. We started the usual passing of the Haggadah around the table so everyone could read bits aloud…and every time there was a passage about slavery or bondage, Mom asks my sister’s boyfriend if he wants to read it. She has no clue how ridiculous this makes her look, nor how mortified the boyfriend is (although he was too polite to say anything). My sister and I just about died.

So can Mom be a featured guest columnist? 😉

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