# BLADE RUNNER: Ford, Hauer, Young, Olmos, Hannah's Best Movie Ever? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 30, 2010, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blade-runner-ford-hauer-young-olmos-hannahs-best-movie-ever/537830 "2010-04-30T04:22:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![boilercake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@boilercake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boilercake)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blade-runner-ford-hauer-young-olmos-hannahs-best-movie-ever/537830/1 "2010-04-30T04:22:27Z")
I can still watch it and tear up at the end: “I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time… like tears in rain… Time to die.” Batty’s “humanity,” Rachael’s realization, Pris’ sexi/craziness, Deckard’s efforting, Gaff’s origamiing. I don’t think anything in Hauer or Young’s body of work has exceeded this film, I suppose _Splash_ or _Fried Green Tomatoes_ approaches it for Hannah, _Battlestar Galactica_ may exceed it for Olmos because of his small role and of course _Indy_ and _Star Wars_ are arguable for Ford, but both are cartoonish in comparison IMHO. Am I wrong? I mean on a rainy afternoon I’d much rather rewatch _Blade Runner_ than any of the above. “Attack ships on fire,” can you imagine? ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blade-runner-ford-hauer-young-olmos-hannahs-best-movie-ever/537830/2 "2010-04-30T04:54:06Z")
Original or Director’s Cut? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Critical1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Critical1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical1)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blade-runner-ford-hauer-young-olmos-hannahs-best-movie-ever/537830/3 "2010-04-30T05:28:05Z")
its certainly very very close to the top. I love that flick. ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blade-runner-ford-hauer-young-olmos-hannahs-best-movie-ever/537830/4 "2010-04-30T05:36:53Z")
> [@boilercake](#): > > I can still watch it and tear up at the end: “I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time… like tears in rain… Time to die.” > > Batty’s “humanity,” Rachael’s realization, Pris’ sexi/craziness, Deckard’s efforting, Gaff’s origamiing. > > I don’t think anything in Hauer or Young’s body of work has exceeded this film, I suppose _Splash_ or _Fried Green Tomatoes_ approaches it for Hannah, _Battlestar Galactica_ may exceed it for Olmos because of his small role and of course _Indy_ and _Star Wars_ are arguable for Ford, but both are cartoonish in comparison IMHO. Am I wrong? I mean on a rainy afternoon I’d much rather rewatch _Blade Runner_ than any of the above. “Attack ships on fire,” can you imagine? I definitely agree with you. ---
**Author:** ![In\_Winnipeg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a8b319/32.png) [@In\_Winnipeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/In_Winnipeg)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blade-runner-ford-hauer-young-olmos-hannahs-best-movie-ever/537830/5 "2010-04-30T05:37:03Z")
Definitely one of the best examples of future noir I can think of. I’d go one further and even say it’s Scott’s best movie. ---
**Author:** ![Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enter_the_Flagon)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blade-runner-ford-hauer-young-olmos-hannahs-best-movie-ever/537830/6 "2010-04-30T05:58:51Z")
Darryl Hannah was in “Fried Green Tomatoes”? No, you’re not wrong. “Splash” is a nice movie, but “Blade Runner” is in several ways a masterpiece. I’ve seen a couple of Rutger Hauer’s post B.R. efforts: the word “dreck” comes to mind. We share an opinion on Hauer’s work in “Blade Runner” - really a tour de force performance. Because I find Batty’s death scene to be among the loftiest pinnacles of untouchably great acting, I’ve sometimes tried to imagine how some other famous actors might have done with that role, and I’ve decided that I’d like to see Russell Crowe don that particular trenchcoat. Maybe he could equal Hauer’s brief moment of divine inspiration, but I can’t see anyone, living or dead, bettering it. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blade-runner-ford-hauer-young-olmos-hannahs-best-movie-ever/537830/7 "2010-04-30T06:44:52Z")
> [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](#): > > Darryl Hannah was in “Fried Green Tomatoes”? > > No, you’re not wrong. “Splash” is a nice movie, but “Blade Runner” is in several ways a masterpiece. I’ve seen a couple of Rutger Hauer’s post B.R. efforts: the word “dreck” comes to mind. > > We share an opinion on Hauer’s work in “Blade Runner” - really a tour de force performance. Because I find Batty’s death scene to be among the loftiest pinnacles of untouchably great acting, I’ve sometimes tried to imagine how some other famous actors might have done with that role, and I’ve decided that I’d like to see Russell Crowe don that particular trenchcoat. Maybe he could equal Hauer’s brief moment of divine inspiration, but I can’t see anyone, living or dead, bettering it. I approve of and endorse this message. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blade-runner-ford-hauer-young-olmos-hannahs-best-movie-ever/537830/8 "2010-04-30T06:51:04Z")
Probably the peak point of William Sanderson’s career as well…TRM ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blade-runner-ford-hauer-young-olmos-hannahs-best-movie-ever/537830/9 "2010-04-30T09:24:32Z")
> [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](#): > > Darryl Hannah was in “Fried Green Tomatoes”? Probably meant _Steel Magnolias_. ---
**Author:** ![Future\_Londonite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9dc877/32.png) [@Future\_Londonite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Future_Londonite)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blade-runner-ford-hauer-young-olmos-hannahs-best-movie-ever/537830/10 "2010-04-30T09:50:01Z")
> [@pravnik](#): > > Original or Director’s Cut? 🙂 ok so I’m pretty sure that one should not watch the original - between Director’s Cut and Final Cut…which one is considered the one to watch?? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blade-runner-ford-hauer-young-olmos-hannahs-best-movie-ever/537830/11 "2010-04-30T09:58:35Z")
> [@In\_Winnipeg](#): > > Definitely one of the best examples of future noir I can think of. Several years ago, I saw _The Big Sleep_, and loved it. The chemistry and the verbal jousting between the characters is fantastic. I couldn’t tell you much about the plot, though. I don’t remember who was guilty, or exactly what they were guilty of. Somehow, the movie thrives on that; as if our confusion mirrors Marlowe’s confusion as he tries to piece it all together. Looking back on _Blade Runner_, I remember it very much the same way. I don’t know where each of the clues came from, or how certain characters came to be in certain places. And isn’t there even one replicant left unaccounted for? For those who love the film, is that part of the reason why? Was Scott deliberately trying to channel the unresolved threads of film noir along with its bleak outlook and moral cloudiness? ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blade-runner-ford-hauer-young-olmos-hannahs-best-movie-ever/537830/12 "2010-04-30T12:13:00Z")
No, there isn’t one replicant left unaccounted for. Because of sloppiness in the script in the original version of the movie, it sounds (if you listen carefully to the dialogue) like the count of the number of replicants is wrong. This was nothing but sloppiness. It’s been fixed in the Final Cut version of the film. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blade-runner-ford-hauer-young-olmos-hannahs-best-movie-ever/537830/13 "2010-04-30T12:20:53Z")
One more support vote for the OP’s position. One of only a very few DVD’s that I own. ---
**Author:** ![In\_Winnipeg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a8b319/32.png) [@In\_Winnipeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/In_Winnipeg)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blade-runner-ford-hauer-young-olmos-hannahs-best-movie-ever/537830/14 "2010-04-30T12:42:46Z")
It’s open to debate, but Deckard is the other replicant. ---
**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blade-runner-ford-hauer-young-olmos-hannahs-best-movie-ever/537830/15 "2010-04-30T13:45:31Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > Probably the peak point of William Sanderson’s career as well…TRM I think his role/acting in _Deadwood_ easily surpassed it. For Hannah, _Bladerunner_ is the best movie she’s been in, but not necessarily her best performance. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blade-runner-ford-hauer-young-olmos-hannahs-best-movie-ever/537830/16 "2010-04-30T14:08:07Z")
To me, Hauers best moment wasn’t the death scene, but a single line earlier on. When he first enters Sebastians home and says, “Gosh, You’ve got a lot of neat toys.” You can see that despite all his capabilities and apparent worldliness, he’s really just a four-year-old inside. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blade-runner-ford-hauer-young-olmos-hannahs-best-movie-ever/537830/17 "2010-04-30T14:17:04Z")
I don’t think it’s all that good. I’ve never managed to see what people like in _Blade Runner_. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blade-runner-ford-hauer-young-olmos-hannahs-best-movie-ever/537830/18 "2010-04-30T14:22:42Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > To me, Hauers best moment wasn’t the death scene, but a single line earlier on. When he first enters Sebastians home and says, “Gosh, You’ve got a lot of neat toys.” You can see that despite all his capabilities and apparent worldliness, he’s really just a four-year-old inside. I think one of the strengths of Blade Runner is that so many bits are open to multiple readings - and this is one of them. I didn’t think Roy was being sincere with that comment - he’d just read Sebastian, quickly and well, and knew how best to ingratiate himself with the man. He’s playing Sebastian from the moment they meet. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blade-runner-ford-hauer-young-olmos-hannahs-best-movie-ever/537830/19 "2010-04-30T14:26:37Z")
I’ve been trying for years to figure out a way to get the lady at my sushi bar to say, “He say you brade runner.” ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blade-runner-ford-hauer-young-olmos-hannahs-best-movie-ever/537830/20 "2010-04-30T14:28:03Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > I don’t think it’s all that good. I’ve never managed to see what people like in _Blade Runner_. Well, if you don’t like it, you don’t like it. But I think that people who _do_ like it feel that it does a few things very, very well. It creates this very large, well-realized future world, with a very distinct look, and populates it with a host of morally ambiguous charactes who remain deeply sympathetic. Roy Batty is a monster - but he has excellent reason to be one. Deckard is a thug whose job is appalling - and yet, as we see in the film, entirely necessary. (The fact that Olmos’ character knows he dreams about unicorns suggests that Deckard is also a replicant - another bit of nuance and irony for the character). And the film sticks this characters and this world in a genuinely interesting plot. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blade-runner-ford-hauer-young-olmos-hannahs-best-movie-ever/537830.md?page=2)