# blah blah blah dubya is a moron **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2003, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blah-blah-blah-dubya-is-a-moron/164289 "2003-03-26T14:42:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2003, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blah-blah-blah-dubya-is-a-moron/164289/21 "2003-03-26T17:59:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by UncleBill \* > \*\*I have a background in applied statistics, and made sure to include number polled and calculated marigin of error. Your method is a sampling which would have a much smaller margin of error, but would lose the immediacy of what this particular poll was meant to measure, specifically the change over three or four days. Our media and government is run (to an extent) off these short quickies. \*\* Sure, and if I was not clear in my post allow me to try again. I was in no way attempting to imply that you were trying to pull something, or cloud the facts. I am also not trying to imply that the survey that you cited is not valid (I am not sure that we know enough to make that call). Rather, my post was simply a generalized criticism of these types of polls, as they seem to me to be rather sloppy and my fear is that a lot of people are basing their take of how the world works and how others are feeling on sloppy methodology. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2003, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blah-blah-blah-dubya-is-a-moron/164289/22 "2003-03-26T18:02:49Z")
\*\* negative geez,\*\* the website you listed as your homepage is inappropriate. I have removed it from your profile. Don’t post a link to it on the Straight Dope Message Board. Lynn For the Straight Dope ---
**Author:** ![UncleBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d26b3c/32.png) [@UncleBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBill)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2003, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blah-blah-blah-dubya-is-a-moron/164289/23 "2003-03-26T18:16:50Z")
**Binarydrone** , all true. Sad, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2003, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blah-blah-blah-dubya-is-a-moron/164289/24 "2003-03-26T18:31:45Z")
> [@](#): > > The war in Iraq now has the support of around 50 countries. The combined population of coalition countries is approximately 1.23 billion people, with a combined gross domestic product of approximately $22 trillion. These countries are from every continent on the globe, representing every major race, religion, and ethnicity in the world. This is a joke, right? [94% of Turks, 90% of Spaniards, and 73% of Italians are against the war.](http://www.american-reporter.com/2066W/50.html) I must admit I don’t have polling figures for Micronesia and Guinea, but at least in regards to these members of the “coalition of the willing,” your simple summation of those populations based on the political position of their leaders leaves something to be desired. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2003, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blah-blah-blah-dubya-is-a-moron/164289/25 "2003-03-26T20:13:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by december \* > The war in Iraq now has the support of around 50 countries. Four countries doing the fightin’ while the other 46 sit on the sidelines (and await [handouts from Uncle Sam](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030325/pl_nm/iraq_usa_cash_dc_3)) doesn’t fit my definition of “support”. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2003, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blah-blah-blah-dubya-is-a-moron/164289/26 "2003-03-26T22:19:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Elvis \* > \*\*I’m a Sharpton man myself–it’s the hair that gets me. Plus the James Brown association. \*\* For me it’s the snappy wardrobe and witty patter. He’ll bring us all together\*. \*in the search for overripe vegetables and brickbats. ---
**Author:** ![FaerieBeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e95f7d/32.png) [@FaerieBeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FaerieBeth)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blah-blah-blah-dubya-is-a-moron/164289/27 "2003-03-27T01:28:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by UncleBill \* > \*\* Our media and government is run (to an extent) off these short quickies. \*\* SHHhhhhhh!!! I don’t want to know about their love life. 😉 FB ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blah-blah-blah-dubya-is-a-moron/164289/28 "2003-03-27T01:29:08Z")
And not only the top fifty nations, but _both_\* human _and_ cetacean species! ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blah-blah-blah-dubya-is-a-moron/164289/29 "2003-03-27T03:22:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elucidator \* > \*_And not only the top fifty nations, but both_ human _and_ cetacean species! \*\* I can just see the Fox News talking head say, "An opinion poll surveyed 1,100 dolphins, whales, and porpoises, with a standard deviation of +/- 2 percent. When asked if Turkey’s incursion into Northern Iraq threatens to expand the war into a regional conflict, 70 percent answered, “Fish give Baaaa!” 25 percent answered, “Click, whistle, click, click, rasp” 10 percent merely blew water out their blowholes and 5 percent answered, “So long and thanks for the fish. Watch out with the Vogons.” ---
**Author:** ![rexnervous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9c0ed/32.png) [@rexnervous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rexnervous)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blah-blah-blah-dubya-is-a-moron/164289/30 "2003-03-27T03:35:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*I can just see the Fox News talking head say, "An opinion poll surveyed 1,100 dolphins, whales, and porpoises, with a standard deviation of +/- 2 percent. > > When asked if Turkey’s incursion into Northern Iraq threatens to expand the war into a regional conflict, > > 70 percent answered, “Fish give Baaaa!” > > 25 percent answered, “Click, whistle, click, click, rasp” > > 10 percent merely blew water out their blowholes > > and 5 percent answered, “So long and thanks for the fish. Watch out with the Vogons.” \*\* 😃 That’s funny! But were you making a meta-statement on the survey issue by having your percentages add up to 110%, or did your humor temporarily preclude your mathematics? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![jmizzou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/edb3f5/32.png) [@jmizzou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jmizzou)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blah-blah-blah-dubya-is-a-moron/164289/31 "2003-03-27T03:51:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by negative geez \* > . . .and divide the country up into two groups…pro and anti war. Yeah, what a moron! Any **normal** person would have been able to divide the country into at least _three_ groups: pro-war, anti-war, and pro-anti-war. But seriously, you can’t blame Bush for the collapse of the “America, the Beautiful” effect that arose from the 9/11 attacks. We can’t even agree on whether Coke-a-Cola is “soda” or “pop”, and you expect everyone to get along over something as serious as a war, especially as many people believe the basis of the war is questionable? ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blah-blah-blah-dubya-is-a-moron/164289/32 "2003-03-27T04:07:56Z")
[quote] But were you making a meta-statement on the survey issue by having your percentages add up to 110%, or did your humor temporarily preclude your mathematics? [quote] Uh, yeah, meta-statement, that’s the ticket. Hey, a UFO! \ ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blah-blah-blah-dubya-is-a-moron/164289/33 "2003-03-27T06:43:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jmizzou \* > **We can’t even agree on whether Coke-a-Cola is “soda” or "pop"** But we CAN agree that it’s spelled “Coca-Cola.” ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blah-blah-blah-dubya-is-a-moron/164289/34 "2003-03-27T06:54:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Smeghead \* > \*\*But we CAN agree that it’s spelled “Coca-Cola.” \*\* It’s spelled “Pepsi”!!! ---
**Author:** ![jmizzou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/edb3f5/32.png) [@jmizzou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jmizzou)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blah-blah-blah-dubya-is-a-moron/164289/35 "2003-03-27T15:15:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Smeghead \* > But we CAN agree that it’s spelled “Coca-Cola.” I could have sworn I spelled it right. I blame Bush! ---
**Author:** ![Toaster52](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/50afbb/32.png) [@Toaster52](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toaster52)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blah-blah-blah-dubya-is-a-moron/164289/36 "2003-03-27T17:00:07Z")
Geez, Sharpton for President?! Methinks their plan is to get their vote in while all the Republicans are still laughing ---
**Author:** ![clayton\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c57346/32.png) [@clayton\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clayton_e)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blah-blah-blah-dubya-is-a-moron/164289/37 "2003-03-27T18:47:15Z")
Just please, anyone but Bush. Next election: Anyone but bush. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blah-blah-blah-dubya-is-a-moron/164289/38 "2003-03-27T18:51:45Z")
If it’s a choice between Bush and Sharpton, I’ll take Bush. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blah-blah-blah-dubya-is-a-moron/164289/39 "2003-03-27T19:17:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by clayton\_e \* > \*\*Just please, anyone but Bush. Next election: Anyone but bush. \*\* EVEN JEFF GORDON? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blah-blah-blah-dubya-is-a-moron/164289.md?page=1)