# Blazing Saddles: Different Edits? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 18, 2006, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles-different-edits/361215 "2006-06-18T22:18:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles-different-edits/361215/1 "2006-06-18T22:18:23Z")
Just finished watching **Blazing Saddles** again, this time on DVD, and one thing puzzles me. I’ve seen sanitised for TV edits, where the farting scene and Lili Von Shtupp’s musical number is cut, but this one kept those but lacked a couple of Bart and The Kid’s attempts on Mongo’s life, notably “Spanish balloons? Mongo, he try!” The only one kept was “Candygram for Mongo!”. _Are_ there different edits? Stampeding cattle? That’s not much of a crime. Through the Vatican? Kinky. Sign here. ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles-different-edits/361215/2 "2006-06-18T22:32:06Z")
According to the [IMDb](http://imdb.com/title/tt0071230/alternateversions): > [@](#): > > The TV release has five extra scenes that weren’t in the theatrical release: > > - When Sheriff Bart is trying to capture Mongo, after he delivers the “CandyGram for Mongo”, it then shows a “draw on the dummy sheriff” game that fires a cannon at Mongo, and then a scene Bart convinces Mongo to go diving down a well for Spanish Doubloons and Bart stops pumping air to the diving suit because it’s time for his lunch break. I’ve never seen those scenes, just the candygram one. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles-different-edits/361215/3 "2006-06-18T22:46:31Z")
> [@Priceguy](#): > > According to the [IMDb](http://imdb.com/title/tt0071230/alternateversions):I’ve never seen those scenes, just the candygram one. I saw those extra scenes. On TV, decades ago. They were pretty stupid, and they weren’t used in the film for good reason, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles-different-edits/361215/4 "2006-06-18T22:49:43Z")
I bought a VHS edition a few years back that included the “documentary” _Back in the Saddle_. It shows the Bart v. Mongo outtakes plus a few others. I’m surprised to hear that there was a version that included those scenes. Is it labeled “Director’s Cut”? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles-different-edits/361215/5 "2006-06-18T22:56:15Z")
Watch the DVD director’s commentary for the full explanation. Brroks talks about the scenes, and why they were cut from the theatrical release. **Qad** nailed it…they aren’t that funny. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles-different-edits/361215/6 "2006-06-18T23:43:41Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > I saw those extra scenes. On TV, decades ago. Ah, that answers it. I saw 'em on TV years ago too, but I loved 'em: to my mind they added a lot to the whole anarchic Bugs Bunny feel of repeatedly trying to take out Mongo with stupider and stupider scenes. And the diving scene is _funny_: “Dive, dive dive, for Spanish doubloons!” “Spanish balloons? Mongo, he try!” ---
**Author:** ![Zachlee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Zachlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zachlee)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles-different-edits/361215/7 "2006-06-19T02:56:42Z")
One of my favorite weird edits was a TV version I saw some time ago. They cut the fart noises from the bean eating scene. But when Sherrif Bart is walking through town, and says Good Morning to the little old lady, she still says “Up Yours, N\*\*\*\*r!” So audible farts were deemed too offensive for TV broadcast, but the n-word was still okay? What alternative universe was this broadcast from? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles-different-edits/361215/8 "2006-06-19T03:05:29Z")
> [@Zachlee](#): > > One of my favorite weird edits was a TV version I saw some time ago. > > They cut the fart noises from the bean eating scene. > > But when Sherrif Bart is walking through town, and says Good Morning to the little old lady, she still says “Up Yours, N\*\*\*\*r!” > > So audible farts were deemed too offensive for TV broadcast, but the n-word was still okay? What alternative universe was this broadcast from? I believe that’s the original TV edit. Further edits, most notoriously by the Family Channel, also remove all utterances of “nigger” and “faggot”. ---
**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles-different-edits/361215/9 "2006-06-19T03:27:34Z")
I’ve heard the scene that ends “It’s twue, it’s twue.” (you KNOW the scene I mean) was originally meant to end with “Excuse me madame, but you’re sucking on my elbow.” Did that make it into any of the edits? ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles-different-edits/361215/10 "2006-06-19T03:32:18Z")
> [@betenoir](#): > > I’ve heard the scene that ends “It’s twue, it’s twue.” (you KNOW the scene I mean) was originally meant to end with > > “Excuse me madame, but you’re sucking on my elbow.” > > Did that make it into any of the edits? I’ve never heard that line in the movie, but I have heard that story. The deleted scenes showing Bart trying to outsmart Mongo were always of pretty low quality when I’ve seen them; I’m not sure if it’s just lack of appropriate post-production or if the film itself is corrupted. ---
**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles-different-edits/361215/11 "2006-06-19T04:02:09Z")
> [@betenoir](#): > > I’ve heard the scene that ends “It’s twue, it’s twue.” (you KNOW the scene I mean) was originally meant to end with > > “Excuse me madame, but you’re sucking on my elbow.” > > Did that make it into any of the edits? I don’t think so. According to Brooks on the DVD commentary (I’m going from memory here), he had written the line but knew it would never pass muster with the studio. He could get away with a lot, but not that particular line. ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles-different-edits/361215/12 "2006-06-19T04:34:51Z")
> [@divemaster](#): > > I don’t think so. According to Brooks on the DVD commentary (I’m going from memory here), he had written the line but knew it would never pass muster with the studio. He could get away with a lot, but not that particular line. Really? I’ve heard elsewhere it was Richard Pryor who wrote that line. ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles-different-edits/361215/13 "2006-06-19T04:40:11Z")
> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#): > > I saw those extra scenes. On TV, decades ago. > > They were pretty stupid, and they weren’t used in the film for good reason, IMHO. Same here, only I disagree they weren’t funny. The 10 year old me who first saw them laughed his narrow ass off. ---
**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles-different-edits/361215/14 "2006-06-19T04:49:43Z")
> [@Askia](#): > > Really? I’ve heard elsewhere it was Richard Pryor who wrote that line. That could very well be true. It’s been over 6 months since I listened to the commentary and Brooks talked about a lot of stuff, including Pryor’s input, deleted scenes (the one in question and otherwise), and all sorts of other stuff. I had never heard of this particular line before watching the commentary so I have no historical perspective. I do remember thinking just how goddam funny it was and how it was a shame it didn’t make it into the movie. Brooks seemed not to be too bent out of shape about it. More of the “it didn’t make it because of the obvious reason” of being just a tad over the boundary of the accectable. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles-different-edits/361215/15 "2006-06-19T05:35:16Z")
The stuff that does grate the most now is the casual rape jokes: “You said rape twice.” “I _like_ rape.” I guess they were a product of their time - watch almost any Eastwood movie of the period and count the rape or attempted rape scenes - but they’re a little uncomfortable to watch now. ---
**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles-different-edits/361215/16 "2006-06-19T07:52:03Z")
A little off topic but I’ve seen about 2 or 3 TV edits for **The Breakfast Club** some include scenes that aren’t in the theatrical cut (usually just extra of them running through the halls avoiding the teacher). It’s always a little surreal seeing a ‘edited for tv’ movie that has extras to make up for other jokes they cut. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles-different-edits/361215/17 "2006-06-19T08:36:00Z")
> [@Case Sensitive](#): > > The stuff that does grate the most now is the casual rape jokes: > > “You said rape twice.” > > “I _like_ rape.” > > I guess they were a product of their time - watch almost any Eastwood movie of the period and count the rape or attempted rape scenes - but they’re a little uncomfortable to watch now. For that matter, _The Fantastiks_ has an entire number on the subject of rape, and it’s quite jolly. I think the word was used more to mean “abduction” than forceable sex. I wonder if the Broadway revival will include this sequence, but it would be a major rape of the libretto to remove it. “Raaaaaaaape, such a pretty rape…” ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles-different-edits/361215/18 "2006-06-19T08:39:40Z")
> [@betenoir](#): > > I’ve heard the scene that ends “It’s twue, it’s twue.” (you KNOW the scene I mean) was originally meant to end with > > “Excuse me madame, but you’re sucking on my elbow.” > > Did that make it into any of the edits? That line was the scene-ender in the book, but the scene was truncated just before in the original theatrical release and early VHS tapes. I never saw it on screen, but I don’t have a recent DVD copy to check. The book also included pictures of the dive sequence and other events that weren’t in the original theatrical release, so (my copy, at least) must have preceeded it. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles-different-edits/361215/19 "2006-06-19T13:49:33Z")
> [@Zachlee](#): > > One of my favorite weird edits was a TV version I saw some time ago. > > They cut the fart noises from the bean eating scene. > > But when Sherrif Bart is walking through town, and says Good Morning to the little old lady, she still says “Up Yours, N\*\*\*\*r!” > > So audible farts were deemed too offensive for TV broadcast, but the n-word was still okay? What alternative universe was this broadcast from? That’s the edit of the movie I first saw! And the bean scene made _no sense at all_. I only saw it uncut sometime in college. ---
**Author:** ![Lissa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lissa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissa)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles-different-edits/361215/20 "2006-06-19T13:57:30Z")
> [@Musicat](#): > > That line was the scene-ender in the book . . . There was a _book?_ [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles-different-edits/361215.md?page=2)