When can we savagely critique the Beach Party movies? So sexist, racist, classist, ableist… and the music! Argh!
As I recall, he was specifically kidnapped by a tribe of Amazons and was never heard from again. I gather the implication was that the sexist was captured by strong women, etc. for irony or whatever.
Why that would upset viewers more than the actual kidnapping and imprisonment depicted in the film escapes me. There’s even a fantasy sequence in which Hart is hunted for sport and his head mounted on a wall.
It’s always possible to find persons who are clearly being too sensitive. I have to admit balking when this morphs into “people are too sensitive these days”, though.
Are you reading the article somewhere?
Good riddance. I don’t think I missed much. Deleting it is probably appropriate atonement for having written it in the first place. It sounded (from the comments here) like a bunch of drivel.
Hey, I didn’t get any outrage from *that *guy!
You joke but I’ve literally heard multiple podcasts that review bad movies do Pearl Harbor and for some reason make both those points. In fact the Nostalgia Critic dinged Pearl Harbor in his review for not showing “Both sides were wrong” despite the fact that Pearl Harbor is actually pretty damn sympathetic to the Japanese for some reason.
According to IMDB, Cleavon Little was not told that Gene Wilder was going to say the moron line. His crackup was completely genuine and unscripted.
I gotta say, kudos for following the quote train! I ignored the rest of the thread the first trim through and scrolled down to see if anyone had correctly followed through. 
It makes me irrationally happy.
Same here!
Oh, no! Someone on the internet has an unfavorable opinion of something I like, which is completely subjective! Teh horrors!
What’s the big deal here? The person didn’t find the movie funny, because she has different life experiences. And, when you do this type of comedy, that’s the result. If you make edgy jokes, and the humor fails for someone, all that’s left is the edgy–the offensive. That’s why edgy humor is so difficult.
I totally get disagreeing with her. If I could read the article, I probably would, too, given your descriptions. What I don’t get is the ridicule. Why is Blazing Saddles of all things so important that people feel the need to browbeat someone into liking it, or at least shutting up about any possible criticism? Why is there no room for people who don’t like Blazing Saddles?
What has happened to our ability to tolerate literary criticism? Weren’t we all educated in high school and college about how there are multiple ways to look at works, and that there is no “right” or “wrong” in all this? And what happened to respectful rebuttals, where you explain why you disagree with their conclusions?
I can’t help but think the real reason this happens is that people are worried they might have a point, and that something they like may not be as perfect as they remember. That’s why they use ridicule, not rebuttal. Rebuttal requires you to actually stop and consider the ideas of others.
Blazing Saddles clearly isn’t that important. This blog isn’t that important, nor is the author. She’s just a proxy for a culture war. She is being seen to represent all the people who dare to challenge people’s perceptions of the past, from tastes in fiction to beliefs about people and society. Even if she isn’t making a valid point in this case, the point is to send a message that you will be ridiculed if you ever go against the mainstream, so wouldn’t you rather shut up and ignore it all? And that is the way a society stagnates and doesn’t continue improving.
And, on a more personal level, I know what it’s like to have a different opinion and perspective on things. And I know what it’s like when you get ridiculed for it. It feels like you’re being punished for having a different view on things. What it has done to me is make it where I am very reluctant to look at replies, so I miss even the perfectly valid counterarguments. And that harms debate, as well.
Whatever. I’m probably “taking this too seriously” and need to “lighten up.” Maybe I’d buy that if it was all lighthearted fun, and she hadn’t felt so bullied that she pulled down her review. Or that I didn’t see people who usually push the idea of respecting freedom of speech and the marketplace of ideas so readily do these things that harm such.
Maybe she took it down because she was embarrassed by it and has subsequently changed her mind about the film.
Is that you, Hurricane Ditka?
Actually, this is a good example showing that opinions aren’t just completely subjective, and some genuinely are worth more than others, because they’re based on a better understanding of a work and the context in which it was made.
Has anybody been saying any of these things in this thread?
You admittedly have not read the article in question. Have you considered the possibility that it’s being ridiculed because it’s ridiculous?
No, I think you’re taking this too personally. As far as I know, we don’t know how she felt, or why the article was taken down; but I’m pretty sure it wasn’t because of what we said about it here on the SDMB. I think you actually have a point, and that she shouldn’t be bullied or ridiculed for basically being a teenager. But the article did have a self-righteous-yet-clueless tone, and that tone is what many people had a problem with.
No, because fortunately my schools didn’t push vacuous post-modern post-fact shit like that.
Here is the Google Cache copy of the entry. (You have to stop the page loading as soon as it pops up, or Medium will try to refresh it and give an error message.)
Here is another forum’s long thread on the post. (I found more but they were…um…less polite.)
Speaking personally, my chief problem with the article was it’s poor grammar and editing.
I have no problem with her opinion. That’s what move reviews are about. She took an immediate turn however when she started to criticize others opinions of the movie and invited others opinions.
To quote: "My main question was “How can people even like this? How is this funny?”
That certainly was an issue.
Just to interject, we were taught that there are other opinions out there.
But we were NOT taught that all of them are right (the vacuous wishy-washy post-fact).
People seem to have forgotten that some opinions are just wrong, and that an opinion is not automatically deserving or acceptance and respect.
I still think the movie is funny. I understand the context and I get it. I don’t need some self appointed “whatever” telling me what I think is funny.