# Blazing Saddles

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles/222850>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 5, 2004, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles/222850 "2004-01-05T18:14:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Raymond\_Luxury\_Yacht](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raymond_luxury_yacht/32/4099_2.png) [@Raymond\_Luxury\_Yacht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raymond_Luxury_Yacht)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles/222850/61 "2004-01-08T07:02:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Krisfer the Cat \*  
> \*\*Thanks to this movie I cannot think of the Vatican without also thinking of cattle stampeding … \*\*

[Hedy Lamarr]Kiinky…[/Hedy Lamarr]

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**Author:** ![Extraneous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/0ea827/32.png) [@Extraneous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Extraneous)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles/222850/62 "2004-01-08T07:13:38Z")

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Children -

re. Public use of the word “Nigger”

There was a breif period (circa '67-'75) when there was a joining of white and black radicals. One of the outcomes was an attempt to defang “nigger” by using it freely.

(See _Hair_ soundtrack).

Somewhere, that spirit was lost, and the word went back into the place where the only non-blacks who use it are KKK-types.

Maybe a future generation will defang it, just as “queer” has been transformed - and I hope that word will finally be acceptable for use by straights who wish to ridicule homophobes.

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**Author:** ![TERRA\_Rising](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@TERRA\_Rising](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TERRA_Rising)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles/222850/63 "2004-01-08T12:09:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gobear \*  
> \*\*And TV also edits out the “It’s twue, it’s twue, it’s TWUE!” scene. I once saw the mvoie on AFKN, the US military TV channel in South Korea, and the censors had removed all the cursewords, the uses of the N-word, and just about every bit of humor in the film. I could not figure out why the military thought that soldiers of all people would be offended by that. \*\*

Of course, the last line of the joke was supposed to be “Baby, you’re sucking my arm!”

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**Author:** ![John\_Mullets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/aeb1de/32.png) [@John\_Mullets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mullets)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles/222850/64 "2004-01-08T13:13:29Z")

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You’re sucking on my ELBOW! It was “you’re sucking on my elbow”

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles/222850/65 "2004-01-08T13:55:07Z")

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> [Hedy Lamarr]Kiinky…[/Hedy Lamarr]

“That’s HEDLEY!”

“Hey, this is 1874; you can sue her!”

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**Author:** ![Lux\_Interior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@Lux\_Interior](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lux_Interior)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles/222850/66 "2004-01-08T15:02:11Z")

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Land… land… land… See “Snatch”

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles/222850/67 "2004-01-08T15:19:02Z")

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Caressing the statue of “Justice” was a visual classic.

It is a shame you can never see it again for the first time.

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**Author:** ![Zach\_Lee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ed655f/32.png) [@Zach\_Lee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zach_Lee)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles/222850/68 "2004-01-08T15:23:42Z")

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Howard Johnson, reading “…and I’d Like to extend this \<b\>Laurel\</b\>, and \<b\>Hearty\</b\> handshake to the town’s new…” looks up to see Bart, “…nigger.”

Love it not so much for the epithet as the shout-out.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles/222850/69 "2004-01-08T17:17:58Z")

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As was astutely and eruditely pointed out by our fellow social scholar **Extraneous** , one must approach the language in **Blazing Saddles** keeping in mind the era and context.

Let us not be niggardly 😛 in our attentions to the fact that Richard Pryor co-wrote the script, and was in fact originally going to play Bart. ( I’ve no clue why this did not come to pass, although Cleavon Little was pretty brilliant). Mr. Pryor recorded, amongst other hilarious 33 1/3 rpm masterpieces, one gem entitled [Bicentennial Nigger](http://www.addreviews.com/readreview.php?rev=2158).

Furthermore and herewith upon, Mr. Pryor did in fact announce during the filmed performance of (I believe) Richard Pryor Live On The Sunset Strip, that subsequent to a visit to Africa, he would no longer use the word nigger. Here are some in-depth insights into the use of that word by [Mr. Pryor during his career](http://www.ironminds.com/ironminds/issues/001019/humor2.shtml).

I wept when I first saw this movie in the theatres. I could NOT believe there was so much satire packed into it. Not just coarse superficial humor, but the social satire in layers that makes the movie still have legs today.

One of my faves? " I didn’t get a Harumph outa that guy ! "

Cartooniverse

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**Author:** ![NutWrench](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nutwrench/32/20193_2.png) [@NutWrench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NutWrench)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles/222850/70 "2004-01-08T17:36:51Z")

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“Excuse me while I whip this out!”

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“Has anybody got a dime? Someone’s going to have to go back and get a sh-tload of dimes!”

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles/222850/71 "2004-01-08T17:52:27Z")

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“Can’t you see she’s POOPED?!”

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles/222850/72 "2004-01-08T18:52:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Cartooniverse \*  
> \*\*Let us not be niggardly 😛 in our attentions to the fact that Richard Pryor co-wrote the script, and was in fact originally going to play Bart. ( I’ve no clue why this did not come to pass, although Cleavon Little was pretty brilliant). \*\*

First entry in the IMDb trivia listing:

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> The role of Bart was intended for Richard Pryor, but due to the controversial nature of Pryor’s stand-up routines of the day and his background, ‘Brooks, Mel’ couldn’t secure financing for the project with Pryor in that role.

While trying to verify that, I found [this](http://www.allwatchers.com/topics/info_9302.asp):

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> Sex/nudity in movie? Yes  
> What kind of sex: - vague references only - kissing

Either they were watching an edited version or they won’t paying attention!

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**Author:** ![Raymond\_Luxury\_Yacht](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raymond_luxury_yacht/32/4099_2.png) [@Raymond\_Luxury\_Yacht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raymond_Luxury_Yacht)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles/222850/73 "2004-01-08T19:14:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gobear \*  
> \*\*“That’s HEDLEY!”  
> \*\*

😃

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles/222850/74 "2004-01-08T20:47:22Z")

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Thanks, **Jeff**. I apologize for not perusing IMDB before posting. I should have linked to the [**Blazing Saddles**](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071230/trivia) page. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Airblairxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Airblairxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airblairxxx)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles/222850/75 "2004-01-09T00:56:47Z")

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“You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons.”

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**Author:** ![Kizarvexius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/da6949/32.png) [@Kizarvexius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kizarvexius)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles/222850/76 "2004-01-09T02:53:08Z")

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[Hedley Lamar]  
I want rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers and **Methodists**!  
[/Hedley Lamar]

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**Author:** ![widdershins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f0a364/32.png) [@widdershins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/widdershins)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles/222850/77 "2004-01-09T02:58:31Z")

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When my stepfather and I used to watch this film together on TV, I used to laugh extra loud at that line, and he would get angry at it. He’s farmfolk himself.

“Man, them schnitzengruben can wipe you out!”

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**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles/222850/78 "2004-01-09T04:35:38Z")

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Gov To Bart: " Are you Crazy can’t you see that man is a Ni…"  
Notices he is speaking to Bart, “Excuse me,” Grabs Hedley  
“Are you crazy can’t you see that man is a Ni.”

I may be wrong but I think Brooks never used the full word at all in the film as either the Govenor or the Chief.

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**Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles/222850/79 "2004-01-09T06:31:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by widdershins \*  
> \*\*“Man, them schnitzengruben can wipe you out!” \*\*

Twelve’s my limit, y’know.

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**Author:** ![TERRA\_Rising](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@TERRA\_Rising](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TERRA_Rising)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blazing-saddles/222850/80 "2004-01-09T10:46:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by John Mullets \*  
> \*\*You’re sucking on my ELBOW! It was “you’re sucking on my elbow” \*\*

Sorry, it was “Baby, you’re sucking my arm.” I have the interview on tape. (Mel Brooks on the “Late Late show with Tom Snyder”)

But he could have been mistaken (he is 2,000 years old, after all!)

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