# Blind Item, HIV+, Anyone Else Possible But Charlie Sheen? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 3, 2015, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blind-item-hiv-anyone-else-possible-but-charlie-sheen/736553 "2015-11-03T20:43:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blind-item-hiv-anyone-else-possible-but-charlie-sheen/736553/41 "2015-11-16T20:00:16Z")
_People_ has [confirmed](http://www.people.com/article/charlie-sheen-hiv-positive) the story with a named source. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blind-item-hiv-anyone-else-possible-but-charlie-sheen/736553/42 "2015-11-16T20:26:11Z")
I keep thinking of his father. Martin Sheen must be all kinds of upset/disappointed/scared/pissed off/sad right now. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blind-item-hiv-anyone-else-possible-but-charlie-sheen/736553/43 "2015-11-16T20:50:41Z")
Well, I can’t say I’m surprised. What does surprise me is that it really did turn out to be the guy everyone was thinking of all along. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blind-item-hiv-anyone-else-possible-but-charlie-sheen/736553/44 "2015-11-16T21:14:19Z")
But has anyone tested the poor tiger? ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blind-item-hiv-anyone-else-possible-but-charlie-sheen/736553/45 "2015-11-16T21:18:05Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > But has anyone tested the poor tiger? Whenever i think of the tiger blood comment it just reminds me of all the times I said really stupid things and got blasted by karma and regret. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blind-item-hiv-anyone-else-possible-but-charlie-sheen/736553/46 "2015-11-16T22:24:06Z")
[National Enquirer](http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/national-enquirer-rushes-charlie-sheen-hiv-story-press-article-1.2436749) just released its upcoming cover on to the net 2 days early. The story claims that Sheen has known that he was HIV-positive for 4 years. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blind-item-hiv-anyone-else-possible-but-charlie-sheen/736553/47 "2015-11-16T22:59:56Z")
4 years? Jesus. If he’s been having unprotected sex all that timer, then to hell with him. If that’s the case, I hope he dies cold and alone. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blind-item-hiv-anyone-else-possible-but-charlie-sheen/736553/48 "2015-11-16T23:24:46Z")
Tonight on the news it was official - it’s Charlie Sheen. ---
**Author:** ![Nema98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d2c977/32.png) [@Nema98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nema98)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blind-item-hiv-anyone-else-possible-but-charlie-sheen/736553/49 "2015-11-16T23:40:05Z")
You must be scum of the Earth to knowingly transmit HIV to other unsuspecting people. Die Charlie. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blind-item-hiv-anyone-else-possible-but-charlie-sheen/736553/50 "2015-11-16T23:56:44Z")
Unsuspecting? Anyone who had sex with him in the past few years must surely have heard how many drugs and prostitutes he’d used. They’d be foolish not to insist on condom usage. ---
**Author:** ![Nema98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d2c977/32.png) [@Nema98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nema98)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blind-item-hiv-anyone-else-possible-but-charlie-sheen/736553/51 "2015-11-17T00:09:05Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Unsuspecting? Anyone who had sex with him in the past few years must surely have heard how many drugs and prostitutes he’d used. They’d be foolish not to insist on condom usage. True but he should have taken the precautions also if not revealed. If he dies he will be the first notable high profile celebrity to die of AIDS in many, many years. When was the last time a big name celeb died of AIDS? ---
**Author:** ![rock\_party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19b73/32.png) [@rock\_party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rock_party)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blind-item-hiv-anyone-else-possible-but-charlie-sheen/736553/52 "2015-11-17T00:14:32Z")
If anyone ops to exchange body fluids with Sheen and not wear a condom, I’d say they are engaging in risky behavior and if they turn up positive, it’s their own fault. I could blame Charlie, though, if he is telling partners he’s negative to have unprotected interactions with them. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blind-item-hiv-anyone-else-possible-but-charlie-sheen/736553/53 "2015-11-17T00:19:35Z")
> [@Nema98](#): > > You must be scum of the Earth to knowingly transmit HIV to other unsuspecting people. > > Die Charlie. Jeezum Crow, dial it back a notch. Nobody’s accused him of infecting anybody else yet. Four years… hey, wasn’t his big spectacular breakdown four years ago? Makes perfect sense now… ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blind-item-hiv-anyone-else-possible-but-charlie-sheen/736553/54 "2015-11-17T13:56:12Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > Jeezum Crow, dial it back a notch. Nobody’s accused him of infecting anybody else yet. > > Four years… hey, wasn’t his big spectacular breakdown four years ago? Makes perfect sense now… Yep. His Wikipedia page says he got kicked off _2 1/2 Men_ in January of 2011. Allegedly it was because he was going into rehab, but perhaps they were allowing him to leave under the cover story of his choosing. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blind-item-hiv-anyone-else-possible-but-charlie-sheen/736553/55 "2015-11-17T15:01:40Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > Yep. His Wikipedia page says he got kicked off _2 1/2 Men_ in January of 2011. Allegedly it was because he was going into rehab, but perhaps they were allowing him to leave under the cover story of his choosing. The cover story of his choosing was that he had tiger’s blood, disrespected his boss and co-stars, was batcrap crazy while all the time WINNING!? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blind-item-hiv-anyone-else-possible-but-charlie-sheen/736553/56 "2015-11-17T15:03:45Z")
There are opportunistic infections that people with HIV are more prone to than the rest of us, and some of them can mess up your brain. Sometimes, people are discovered to have HIV when they come down with one of them, act crazy, and get examined for why they’ve gone batshit. Maybe his meltdown and his HIV diagnosis were connected? ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blind-item-hiv-anyone-else-possible-but-charlie-sheen/736553/57 "2015-11-17T15:04:49Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > Yep. His Wikipedia page says he got kicked off _2 1/2 Men_ in January of 2011. Allegedly it was because he was going into rehab, but perhaps they were allowing him to leave under the cover story of his choosing. Perhaps, but Lorre would be a real asshole for firing a guy with AIDS. Apparently the Sony hack revealed the information in 2014, so someone knew before then. I think most likely Charlie blew up under the pressure. He clearly was in no hurry to go public with this. Saw some of the Today show, I think Charlie should have punched Lauer and his doctor for the way they talked about him. They were saying he has to quit drinking or he’ll forget to take his medicine, even though the doctor said he hasn’t missed a dose of that medicine in four years despite the various ‘episodes’ he had. What jerks. Also, there’s a lot of innuendo that Charlie picked up AIDS from a pornstar. A hooker maybe, but pornstars are at least getting tested frequently. There is some overlap between those professions though. Anyway, there are a lot of ways he could have contracted the disease, but just because he’s a well known loose cannon celebrity is no reason to treat him differently than anyone else who has contracted AIDS. ---
**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blind-item-hiv-anyone-else-possible-but-charlie-sheen/736553/58 "2015-11-17T15:13:04Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > There are opportunistic infections that people with HIV are more prone to than the rest of us, and some of them can mess up your brain. Sometimes, people are discovered to have HIV when they come down with one of them, act crazy, and get examined for why they’ve gone batshit. Maybe his meltdown and his HIV diagnosis were connected? Matt Lauer asked him about that and he said the meltdown was more because of “'roid rage,” whatever that means. Sheen claims he’s had unprotected sex with two women since his diagnosis, and that all his sexual partners were told about his status beforehand. He also said he’s paid millions in hush money trying to keep this quiet until now. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blind-item-hiv-anyone-else-possible-but-charlie-sheen/736553/59 "2015-11-17T16:51:17Z")
> [@SaharaTea](#): > > Matt Lauer asked him about that and he said the meltdown was more because of “'roid rage,” whatever that means. > > Sheen claims he’s had unprotected sex with two women since his diagnosis, and that all his sexual partners were told about his status beforehand. He also said he’s paid millions in hush money trying to keep this quiet until now. I heard somewhere that knowingly having unprotected sex when you’re HIV-positive is a felony in California. True? ---
**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blind-item-hiv-anyone-else-possible-but-charlie-sheen/736553/60 "2015-11-17T17:07:04Z")
It is a [felony](http://projects.propublica.org/tables/penalties), but only when the HIV-infected person has not disclosed his or her status and acts with specific intent to infect the other person. That’s difficult to prove. > [@](#): > > Cal. Health and Safety Code § 120291 > Felony > Any person who exposes another to HIV by engaging in unprotected sexual activity (anal or vaginal intercourse without a condom) when the infected person knows at the time of the unprotected sex that he or she is infected with HIV, has not disclosed his or her HIV-positive status, and acts with the specific intent to infect the other person with HIV, is guilty of a felony. A person’s knowledge of his or her HIV-positive status, without additional evidence, is not sufficient to prove specific intent. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blind-item-hiv-anyone-else-possible-but-charlie-sheen/736553.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blind-item-hiv-anyone-else-possible-but-charlie-sheen/736553.md?page=4)