# "Blonde". "Brunette". "Redhead". "Person with black hair"?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blonde-brunette-redhead-person-with-black-hair/393923>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 27, 2007, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blonde-brunette-redhead-person-with-black-hair/393923 "2007-02-27T20:16:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2007, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blonde-brunette-redhead-person-with-black-hair/393923/21 "2007-03-01T16:20:01Z")

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“brunette” isn’t “person with dark hair”?  
**Rocketeer** I believe your definition of Caucasian is wrong. Just sayin’.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2007, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blonde-brunette-redhead-person-with-black-hair/393923/22 "2007-03-01T16:20:09Z")

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I call him “goddamn lucky **brother\_mcl** who stole all of Mom’s good Korean hair genes.”

Bitter? Moi?

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2007, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blonde-brunette-redhead-person-with-black-hair/393923/23 "2007-03-01T16:55:25Z")

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For that matter is a man with brown hair a Brun_ette_? “Ette” indicated a female.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2007, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blonde-brunette-redhead-person-with-black-hair/393923/24 "2007-03-01T19:23:14Z")

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You know, I have black hair and I’ve never even thought about this.

[QUOTE=tdn]  
How about sanguine? Of course, it doesn’t really go with the Wednesday Addams look.  
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Sanguine means reddish. What Wednesday has is sangfroid, but that’s another thing 😉

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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2007, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blonde-brunette-redhead-person-with-black-hair/393923/25 "2007-03-01T19:46:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Marley23]  
You know, I have black hair and I’ve never even thought about this.

Sanguine means reddish. What Wednesday has is sangfroid, but that’s another thing 😉  
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I thought it meant “bloody” or “of or pertaining to blood.” That could be red. Maybe **tdn** is an ancient Greek, though. Or maybe he meant “melancholic.”

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2007, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blonde-brunette-redhead-person-with-black-hair/393923/26 "2007-03-01T20:05:48Z")

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“Raven-tressed” or “raven-haired” sounds… odd to me. I dunno. My mum’s got the black hair in the family and I’ve always called her a brunette.

Wednesday Addams always seemed much more phlegmatic than sanguine to me.

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2007, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blonde-brunette-redhead-person-with-black-hair/393923/27 "2007-03-01T20:07:28Z")

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[QUOTE=alphaboi867]  
For that matter is a man with brown hair a Brun_ette_? “Ette” indicated a female.  
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Brun_o_?

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**Author:** ![nashiitashii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7c8e57/32.png) [@nashiitashii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nashiitashii)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2007, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blonde-brunette-redhead-person-with-black-hair/393923/28 "2007-03-01T20:20:57Z")

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[QUOTE=anu-la1979]  
The problem I’ve seen with the black dyes is that they are really just blue-black as a base, on top of the problem you’ve high-lighted, which is that the colour does not come out multi-dimensional.

It’s only since I’ve started really looking at horrible black hair dye jobs that I’ve quit colouring my hair (beyond henna, since I have old highlights I’m growing out). I don’t even know if Asians in the market will make anything better…I just think it’s a near impossible colour to replicate without almost every foil a different colour of dark brown and black mixed in. And the commercial blacks just don’t look like natural black hair.

Makes you wonder about all those people with black hair who are always trying to make it blonde. I’m going to enjoy it while my hair’s still pigmented.  
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I’ve seen a few sites that sell body art quality henna that promote indigo as a source of somewhat natural looking raven-colored hair dye. Of course, I’ve never dyed my hair black with the stuff, so I don’t know how well it works. [the model on this page](http://www.mehandi.com/shop/hairindigo/) for indigo hair coloring appears to have a diverse range of colors within her colored hair. I’m sure it’s worth a try, as it’s not too different than henna on hair.

BTW, I refer to “black” haired people as brunettes if I mention them by their hair color at all.

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2007, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blonde-brunette-redhead-person-with-black-hair/393923/29 "2007-03-01T20:34:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Scuba\_Ben]  
I think we need to resolve this question through proper analysis of hard evidence.

**Opal** , would you please post photos of yourself with red hair, yellow hair, brown hair, and black hair?  
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Here is the best I can do:  
[blonde](http://gallery.opalcat.com/gallery/OpalCat2006/midnight010806), [yellow?](http://gallery.opalcat.com/gallery/Clothing/bellydance2?full=1), [very dark](http://gallery.opalcat.com/gallery/OpalCat2004/DSC03878), [red](http://gallery.opalcat.com/gallery/OpalCat2004/makeup_after_clubbing), [almost black? (I’m on the left)](http://gallery.opalcat.com/gallery/Early1990s/rewa_and_me), [my natural brown (I’m on the right)](http://gallery.opalcat.com/gallery/HighSchool/piano_with_jennie), [bonus: none!](http://gallery.opalcat.com/gallery/Early1990s/redpic)

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2007, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blonde-brunette-redhead-person-with-black-hair/393923/30 "2007-03-01T20:42:10Z")

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I think the word for a brown-haired male is “brunet.” I’m sure I’ve seen this in print somewhere, and if light hair is blonde for women and blond for men, it makes sense.

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blonde-brunette-redhead-person-with-black-hair/393923/31 "2007-03-02T03:09:46Z")

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[QUOTE=OpalCat]  
Here is the best I can do:  
[blonde](http://gallery.opalcat.com/gallery/OpalCat2006/midnight010806), [yellow?](http://gallery.opalcat.com/gallery/Clothing/bellydance2?full=1), [very dark](http://gallery.opalcat.com/gallery/OpalCat2004/DSC03878), [red](http://gallery.opalcat.com/gallery/OpalCat2004/makeup_after_clubbing), [almost black? (I’m on the left)](http://gallery.opalcat.com/gallery/Early1990s/rewa_and_me), [my natural brown (I’m on the right)](http://gallery.opalcat.com/gallery/HighSchool/piano_with_jennie), [bonus: none!](http://gallery.opalcat.com/gallery/Early1990s/redpic)  
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You forgot this one.

Let me just say…

Damn! Helloooooo Opal!

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**Author:** ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blonde-brunette-redhead-person-with-black-hair/393923/32 "2007-03-02T03:17:37Z")

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“Dark-haired” is how I usually describe it and prefer to be described as. “Raven-haired” makes me think you’re trying to ascribe a certain air or personality to the person.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blonde-brunette-redhead-person-with-black-hair/393923/33 "2007-03-02T03:28:22Z")

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[QUOTE=OpalCat]  
Here is the best I can do:  
[blonde](http://gallery.opalcat.com/gallery/OpalCat2006/midnight010806), [yellow?](http://gallery.opalcat.com/gallery/Clothing/bellydance2?full=1), [very dark](http://gallery.opalcat.com/gallery/OpalCat2004/DSC03878), [red](http://gallery.opalcat.com/gallery/OpalCat2004/makeup_after_clubbing), [almost black? (I’m on the left)](http://gallery.opalcat.com/gallery/Early1990s/rewa_and_me), [my natural brown (I’m on the right)](http://gallery.opalcat.com/gallery/HighSchool/piano_with_jennie), [bonus: none!](http://gallery.opalcat.com/gallery/Early1990s/redpic)  
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Thanks muchly, **Opal**. I appreciate your efforts to contribute meaningfully to the discussion.

Yeah, who’m I kidding with that kind of talk?

Rowr! **Opal** , you’re hot regardless of hair color / style / presence. How _you_ doing?

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blonde-brunette-redhead-person-with-black-hair/393923/34 "2007-03-02T06:19:35Z")

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Oops I forgot one other kind of hair: [facial hair!](http://gallery.opalcat.com/gallery/Early1990s/opal_man)

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blonde-brunette-redhead-person-with-black-hair/393923/35 "2007-03-02T09:38:56Z")

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To me “raven haired” is black-black… but very, very black! (spanish “ala de cuervo” or “pelo negro”), “dark haired” is black-or-dark-brown (“morena” or “castaña”).

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**Author:** ![jamus\_se](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@jamus\_se](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jamus_se)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blonde-brunette-redhead-person-with-black-hair/393923/36 "2007-03-02T11:01:36Z")

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Is there a more… feminine and/or attractive animal to use instead of “Raven”? All it reminds me of is Lenore…

(just a name, and nothing more)

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**Author:** ![Scubaqueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@Scubaqueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scubaqueen)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2007, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blonde-brunette-redhead-person-with-black-hair/393923/37 "2007-03-02T20:24:38Z")

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as a kid i had incredibly blue-black hair, altho my hairdresser today says there’s no such thing as true black hair, that’s it all varying shades of a very VERY dark brown.

meh. don’t know that i agree with him, either, but your personal MMV on that issue.

whatever the answer - it’s all gray and covered by dark-blonde coloring. i learned pretty darn quick that while scuba diving, sun and saltwater take a toll on darkened hair.

speaking of feminine, masculine - which is it?

brunet?  
brunette?

what’s the masculine?

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**Author:** ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2007, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blonde-brunette-redhead-person-with-black-hair/393923/38 "2007-03-03T02:11:27Z")

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Brunet is masculine, brunette is feminine.

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**Post date:** [March 3, 2007, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blonde-brunette-redhead-person-with-black-hair/393923/39 "2007-03-03T03:39:17Z")

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[QUOTE=jamus\_se]  
Is there a more… feminine and/or attractive animal to use instead of “Raven”? All it reminds me of is Lenore…

(just a name, and nothing more)  
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But she was a rare and radiant maiden.

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