# Blood, Sweat And Tears or Chicago?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blood-sweat-and-tears-or-chicago/494847>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 30, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blood-sweat-and-tears-or-chicago/494847 "2009-04-30T15:16:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Meurglys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@Meurglys](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meurglys)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blood-sweat-and-tears-or-chicago/494847/21 "2009-05-01T16:03:25Z")

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So, I liked them both but only had the Al Kooper BS&T and Chigago III; I’ve been picking up a few other early Chicago cds - CTA, CII, III & V - is Live at Carnegie worth getting a hold of? I’ve heard conflicting reports, and I expect I have studio cuts of everything they play, but I do like live stuff…  
And what DCT BS&T is recommended?

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blood-sweat-and-tears-or-chicago/494847/22 "2009-05-01T16:29:50Z")

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\<Sneaky look at my friend **Zip** \> All of anything DCT does with BS&T is recommended, **Meurglis** \</Sneaky look at my friend **Zip** \>

Quasi

Special note to **Zip** : Still trying to get my song to you, and I haven’t forgotten about checking out _Child is Father…_! I have been furiously looking for it in my cd albums and cannot find it! But I know it’s here somewhere!

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blood-sweat-and-tears-or-chicago/494847/23 "2009-05-01T16:31:08Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> Re: #17
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> I was a big fan of Chicago in the early-mid 70’s. I wish I had seen them in concert before Kath shot himself and they turned into a Cetera backing band.

Russian Roulette, wasn’t it, **John**?

Q

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blood-sweat-and-tears-or-chicago/494847/24 "2009-05-01T16:40:47Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> Cetera is a hack singer and he’s not the world’s best songwriter, but he is an AMAZING bassist. A lot of people just tune out the bass part in a song; if you do this, you’re missing a huge part of the song. Cetera in particular was a very melodic bassist, and his playing on _Introduction_ is practically a solo in itself. He was really in tune with the melody of the song and his bass parts always complemented it perfectly.

I agree with you, **AT** , I recently bought a bass and started learning how to play (I have to use a felt pick because I have rheumatoid arthritis in the middle finger of my right hand - I can’t bend that finger, so think about me flipping you off and you’ll have some idea of what I am going through! :D), and so I have started listening to the bass parts of certain songs - Chigago being one of these - and I thought to myself; “Damn! He’s dancing on that fretboard with only four strings!”

McCartney, too , has made that instrument his own, and so many others I could name… Duck Dunn for instance?

Because of the friggin Alzheimer’s I haven’t picked up my Rogue Beatle Bass in a while, but I look at her , and tell her that as soon as I get my meds regulated, I’ll be back, and she says, “I’ll be here, Darling!”

Thanks for your post \*\* Argent Towers\*\*.

(Hmmmmm… makes me think of Rod Argent of The Zombies, but the Towers part, I don’t get, unless that IS your real name?)

Q

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blood-sweat-and-tears-or-chicago/494847/25 "2009-05-01T16:58:30Z")

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I don’t mean to pry, but you’ve mentioned that you have Alzheimers, yet all of your posts seem pretty coherent and organized to me. I wouldn’t know that you had memory problems if you hadn’t said you did. So do you only have a mild form of it or something? Are you on medication that lessens the symptoms?

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**Author:** ![Meurglys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@Meurglys](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meurglys)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blood-sweat-and-tears-or-chicago/494847/26 "2009-05-01T17:16:24Z")

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Nowt to do with the topic, but I just thought I’d say that I saw the **Zombies** last week! Doing the complete _Odessey & Oracle_ lp. 🙂

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blood-sweat-and-tears-or-chicago/494847/27 "2009-05-01T17:30:32Z")

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> [@Meurglys](#):
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> Nowt to do with the topic, but I just thought I’d say that I saw the **Zombies** last week! Doing the complete _Odessey & Oracle_ lp. 🙂

!!!

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blood-sweat-and-tears-or-chicago/494847/28 "2009-05-01T17:33:38Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> I don’t mean to pry, but you’ve mentioned that you have Alzheimers, yet all of your posts seem pretty coherent and organized to me. I wouldn’t know that you had memory problems if you hadn’t said you did. So do you only have a mild form of it or something? Are you on medication that lessens the symptoms?

Spend a day with me, look at my apartment, think about the things I misplace and when I cannot find them, watch me fly into a rage.

Be with me in my car and watch as I wonder if I just pulled out in front of the car I am seeing in my rear-view mirror.

I am in “Early Onset Alzheimer’s”.

This means I am NOT senile! It just means I forget things very easily, and sometimes this can happen very quickly.

Spend a day with me?

Yes, I can still talk and think, but you have to consider the “normal” every-day things, that I can suddenly not remember.

I don’t know what else to tell you except, “Spend a Day With Me”.

Please  
Thanks  
Bill

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blood-sweat-and-tears-or-chicago/494847/29 "2009-05-01T19:21:31Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> Russian Roulette, wasn’t it, **John**?
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> Q

I heard he basically got silly with a firearm, and paid the price.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2009, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blood-sweat-and-tears-or-chicago/494847/30 "2009-05-01T21:16:22Z")

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According to [Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Kath), he was probably intoxicated and showing off with what he thought were unloaded guns.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2009, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blood-sweat-and-tears-or-chicago/494847/31 "2009-05-03T07:32:58Z")

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**Christ!**

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2009, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blood-sweat-and-tears-or-chicago/494847/32 "2009-05-03T13:43:46Z")

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You know it ain’t easy.

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