# BLowjobs are now illegal!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 11, 2003, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blowjobs-are-now-illegal/147960 "2003-01-11T15:33:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![iwire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a87d85/32.png) [@iwire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iwire)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2003, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blowjobs-are-now-illegal/147960/21 "2003-01-11T23:37:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Pulling the Strings \* > \*\*- I would NEVER peacefully allow an officer to arrest me if he didn’t know for what he was arresting me. \*\* That will teach those cops:rolleyes: You would just give them a reason to arrest you Non-peacefully. Ouch Ouch Ouch- ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blowjobs-are-now-illegal/147960/22 "2003-01-12T01:15:47Z")
…well, as the Banquet Bear’s BS detector went on overdrive on this one, I checked out the official school site, and the Patriot Ledger, here are the links: [http://www.sl-regional.k12.ma.us/slrhs/index\_files/flash.html](http://www.sl-regional.k12.ma.us/slrhs/index_files/flash.html) [http://ledger.southofboston.com/display/inn\_news/news03.txt](http://ledger.southofboston.com/display/inn_news/news03.txt) [q] Silver Lake Regional High School Principal Richard J. Kelley said Friday that he plans to look into the possibility of placing monitors on school buses. Such monitors might prevent incidents like last month’s sex act between two Silver Lake students on the way to school, school and bus company officials say. [/q] The original article is in the archives, but I can’t link directly, but you can search for it here… [http://ledger.southofboston.com/archives/](http://ledger.southofboston.com/archives/) So the incident happened-but as everybody says, thats not important. The act wasn’t the problem, the location was… ---
**Author:** ![Jaakko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9adbd/32.png) [@Jaakko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaakko)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blowjobs-are-now-illegal/147960/23 "2003-01-12T01:42:58Z")
And the image of the US as a sexually repressed country is reinforced once again. The police? Arrested them, even onlookers? The fuck? ---
**Author:** ![My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f14d63/32.png) [@My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/My_Darn_Snake_Legs)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blowjobs-are-now-illegal/147960/24 "2003-01-12T01:55:38Z")
I would guess that they could both be charged with statutory rape if the State wants to. Probably also something having to do with not having a permit to display a sex act in public 😛 But come on, who hasn’t gotten a bit of head on a bus? Please! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blowjobs-are-now-illegal/147960/25 "2003-01-12T02:09:00Z")
It may surprise you to learn, **Snake** that outside of Dallas, slobbering the knob is relatively uncommon on metro buses. Indeed, in Idaho it is entirely unknown. You could look it up. ---
**Author:** ![B.Pants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@B.Pants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/B.Pants)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blowjobs-are-now-illegal/147960/26 "2003-01-12T02:40:52Z")
I remember riding the bus in high school. We had to ride between two different schools for about half an hour, and the buses were always crowded, with at least two people, often three to a seat. You could always tell when someone was getting head because there would only be one head visible. It happened at least once a week, and sometimes with more than one couple at the same time. The problem became so bad that we had to have different buses for each gender. ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blowjobs-are-now-illegal/147960/27 "2003-01-12T02:56:37Z")
—Whether oral sex is wrong or not is not EVEN the issue here.— Well, if people didn’t think it was wrong on some level, then why would they make up charges like “indecent exposure” in the first place to keep them out of the public eye? I mean, I’d love to have a law against the indecent exposure of those one-strap shirts to the light of day, but no one will take MY spiteful desires seriously. Boo. ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blowjobs-are-now-illegal/147960/28 "2003-01-12T04:31:08Z")
> [@](#): > > Idaho’s law against “the infamous crime against nature” provides for a punishment of “imprisonment in the state prison not less than five (5) years”–there is thus no maximum term, so in theory someone could be sentenced to life imprisonment. The Idaho law against rape provides for a punishment of “imprisonment in the state prison not less than one (1) year, and the imprisonment may be extended to life in the discretion of the District Judge”. Here is a history of Idaho’s sodomy law. So you’re saying the the most lenient sentence a RAPIST could get is one year, but performing a blowjob lands you a minimum of five years? ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blowjobs-are-now-illegal/147960/29 "2003-01-12T05:00:36Z")
Here in Aus we have laws that prohibit ‘Lewd Behaviour’ which would cover this example perfectly. Do you have similar? ---
**Author:** ![fandango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b5ac83/32.png) [@fandango](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fandango)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blowjobs-are-now-illegal/147960/30 "2003-01-12T06:07:27Z")
15 year-old Junior High School Student??? I don’t think she has much of a future to throw away anyhow… ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blowjobs-are-now-illegal/147960/31 "2003-01-12T06:33:09Z")
Let’s see. One child is caught performing a sexual act upon another child, while other children observe. And this newby \*\* BURNER\*\* thinks nothing is wrong here? **BURNER** , your name in real life wouldn’t happen to be [Pete Townshend](http://europe.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/01/11/uk.townshend/) would it? Or are you just some 14 year old who’s jealous? And where’s the debate in this? ---
**Author:** ![Ms2001](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ms2001/32/18463_2.png) [@Ms2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms2001)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blowjobs-are-now-illegal/147960/32 "2003-01-12T06:55:16Z")
**pkbites** , I hate to be the one to break it to you, but kids watch sex acts all the time (usually in the form of dirty movies). Some of them even participate in sex acts themselves! And–please don’t let this blow your mind–there’s nothing wrong with a little safe sex. Especially in this case, where there was no chance of anyone getting pregnant. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blowjobs-are-now-illegal/147960/33 "2003-01-12T07:03:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mr2001 \* > \*\*And–please don’t let this blow your mind–there’s nothing wrong with a little safe sex. Especially in this case, where there was no chance of anyone getting pregnant. \*\* You’re right. But getting a large load of infected semen in the mouth can hardly be called safe sex. (yeah, yeah. I know, I know. We don’t know if the guy had any disease or not. that’s not the point) The point is, children having sex with other children IN PUBLIC! is not acceptable. **Burner** and now **YOU** , I guess, seem to think it is. And in most places, it is in fact illegal. What’s your problem? These kids should be in trouble! I am not being a prude here! ---
**Author:** ![Ms2001](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ms2001/32/18463_2.png) [@Ms2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms2001)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blowjobs-are-now-illegal/147960/34 "2003-01-12T07:09:01Z")
Well, I think it’s appropriate to discourage sex acts on a school bus. However, I think it should have been dealt with by the school, not by the police, and involving the spectators is ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blowjobs-are-now-illegal/147960/35 "2003-01-12T07:27:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mr2001 \* > \*\*Well, I think it’s appropriate to discourage sex acts on a school bus. However, I think it should have been dealt with by the school, not by the police, and involving the spectators is ridiculous. \*\* I can’t make statements regarding what _should_ have happened in the particular state this took place. however, in Wisconsin, as in many states, the school bus is run by a private comapny, NOT by the school. So this would have, in fact, been a police matter, as well as a school matter. Also, because of the students age, even if it had occurred in school, it would have been a police matter because it was sexual assualt. In many jurisdictions 15 year olds cannot consent to any form of sexual contact. The conduct of the observing juveniles was, at very least, disorderly conduct or disturbing the peace. Once again, I admit ignorance of the laws of where it took place, but I’m willing to bet they differ little from here, mostly because of the actors ages. This was a police matter! Sorry, but those kids were wrong, and so are you. ---
**Author:** ![Ms2001](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ms2001/32/18463_2.png) [@Ms2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms2001)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blowjobs-are-now-illegal/147960/36 "2003-01-12T08:04:18Z")
**pkbites** : Sure, it was a “police matter” in the sense that the police have jurisdiction over the bus. But the police don’t have to take action in every case where they are legally able to, and I believe this is one of the cases where they shouldn’t have. Nobody was harmed. What’s wrong with just giving the kids detention or suspension? > [@](#): > > The conduct of the observing juveniles was, at very least, disorderly conduct or disturbing the peace. Cheering on a bus is _disturbing the peace_? I’m glad you weren’t my bus driver on the last day of junior high! ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blowjobs-are-now-illegal/147960/37 "2003-01-12T08:57:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mr2001 \* > \*\ ***pkbites** : Sure, it was a “police matter” in the sense that the police have jurisdiction over the bus. > > But the police don’t have to take action in every case where they are legally able to, and I believe this is one of the cases where they shouldn’t have. Nobody was harmed. What’s wrong with just giving the kids detention or suspension? > Cheering on a bus is _disturbing the peace_? I’m glad you weren’t my bus driver on the last day of junior high! \*\* Once again, I will state that I am unaware of the laws in the state this took place. Also, seeing that I can only go on the little information I have been given, I can only go on that. However… I happen to have a badge **Mr2001**. And had I been dispatched to this, there would, at very least, been a DA referal as well as a social services notice for the 2 involved in the sexual conduct, and disorderly conduct citations given to the cheerers. In this situation (at least here) I’d have no discretion about that. I’d much rather have the DA kick the case than for me to do nothing. ---
**Author:** ![doreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blowjobs-are-now-illegal/147960/38 "2003-01-12T14:19:30Z")
> [@](#): > > Well, if people didn’t think it was wrong on some level, then why would they make up charges like “indecent exposure” in the first place to keep them out of the public eye? Do laws against urinating on the street mean that people think urinating is “wrong on some level”? Of course not. It merely means that people think it is wrong to do it in certain places. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blowjobs-are-now-illegal/147960/39 "2003-01-12T15:00:53Z")
**Mr2001** , I don’t think we have enough information to judge whether or not it should have gone to the cops–what if one kid was being massivly pressured by the other kid and the spectators to participate? What if they have handled the matter without calling in police before, and it has apparently had no effect? ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2003, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blowjobs-are-now-illegal/147960/40 "2003-01-12T16:20:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pkbites \* > **The point is, children having sex with other children IN PUBLIC!** 15- and 16-year-olds are usually considered adolescents, not “children.” You make it sound like they were 8 years old. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blowjobs-are-now-illegal/147960.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blowjobs-are-now-illegal/147960.md?page=3)