# Blue Jay's Kevin Pillar says a bad word, gets crucified.
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blue-jays-kevin-pillar-says-a-bad-word-gets-crucified/786999
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [May 19, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blue-jays-kevin-pillar-says-a-bad-word-gets-crucified/786999 "2017-05-19T15:13:33Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2017, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blue-jays-kevin-pillar-says-a-bad-word-gets-crucified/786999/121 "2017-05-20T02:20:29Z")
> [@Esco](#):
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> Right! Gotcha đ
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> Answer me this please, why do you gay guys keep asking for approval and acceptance from the straight community??!!
hmmmm⌠Why do supposedly straight guys sometimes fixate so much on hot man on man sex?
[Hereâs your answer.](http://www.theonion.com/blogpost/why-do-all-these-homosexuals-keep-sucking-my-cock-10861) This is you, right?
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### Author:  [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2017, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blue-jays-kevin-pillar-says-a-bad-word-gets-crucified/786999/122 "2017-05-20T02:24:53Z")
I guess everything I had typed up was already said. I hope OP gets why this isnât just about one guy accepting the apology, or just about a bad word. They want to send a message that you canât just apologize and get no punishment. And the slur insults all gay people. Oh, and you donât accidentally slip and say these words unless they are already in your vocabulary.
Also, unrelated to anything, do any of you think that some trolls may actually be defending people by taking the ire off them and making them seem fine by comparison?
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### Author:  [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2017, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blue-jays-kevin-pillar-says-a-bad-word-gets-crucified/786999/123 "2017-05-20T02:31:28Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> hmmmm⌠Why do supposedly straight guys sometimes fixate so much on hot man on man sex?
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> [Hereâs your answer.](http://www.theonion.com/blogpost/why-do-all-these-homosexuals-keep-sucking-my-cock-10861) This is you, right?
OMG!!!
You got me!!!:o
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### Author:  [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2017, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blue-jays-kevin-pillar-says-a-bad-word-gets-crucified/786999/124 "2017-05-20T03:14:47Z")
> [@Esco](#):
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> OMG!!!
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> You got me!!!:o
All kidding aside, though, you do seem very fixated on man on man sex acts which does usually mean that there is some attraction to males.
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### Author:  [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blue-jays-kevin-pillar-says-a-bad-word-gets-crucified/786999/125 "2017-05-20T03:19:20Z")
> [@Esco](#):
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> Answer me this please, why do you gay guys keep asking for approval and acceptance from the straight community??!!
Swing and a miss.
Iâm not gay. Nor am I disturbed by people who are gay.
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### Author:  [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2017, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blue-jays-kevin-pillar-says-a-bad-word-gets-crucified/786999/126 "2017-05-20T03:42:57Z")
> [@Esco](#):
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> Iâm not.
Youâve made it obvious you are.
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> I love you to death, sweetiepie
I give you an erection? Thanks, I guess, but no thanks.
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### Author:  [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2017, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blue-jays-kevin-pillar-says-a-bad-word-gets-crucified/786999/127 "2017-05-20T06:36:22Z")
> [@Colibri](#):
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> Youâve made it obvious you are.
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> I give you an erection? Thanks, I guess, but no thanks
I feel so rejected âš
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### Author:  [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2017, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blue-jays-kevin-pillar-says-a-bad-word-gets-crucified/786999/128 "2017-05-20T06:39:18Z")
> [@bobot](#):
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> Youâre masturbating right now, arenât you?
Furiously!!
Is there any other way to masturbate???
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### Author:  [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2017, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blue-jays-kevin-pillar-says-a-bad-word-gets-crucified/786999/129 "2017-05-20T07:32:29Z")
Can I just say that I love everyone, and I just want a group-hug right now
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### Author:  [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2017, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blue-jays-kevin-pillar-says-a-bad-word-gets-crucified/786999/130 "2017-05-20T11:01:56Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#):
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> If a 2-day suspension constitutes crucifixion,
Itâs actually worse, even Jesus was suspended only one day.
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### Author:  [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2017, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blue-jays-kevin-pillar-says-a-bad-word-gets-crucified/786999/131 "2017-05-20T15:52:41Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> BTW, not a negative word about Jose Bautista flipping the bat after homering in the eighth? Are there no standards at all any more?
Yes, itâs embarrassing to have to relate the transgressions occurring in modern baseball to semi-fans.
I had to tell Mrs. J. that one Jays player uttered a homophobic slur which was so grievous that the sports media couldnât tell us what word he used, because even adults cannot be exposed to it.\* And then, another Jaysâ player hit a home run and tossed his bat aside _in an insolent and provocative manner_. :eek:
Iâm surprised anyone is allowed to attend MLB games anymore given such dreadful behavior.
\*not that the player wasnât at fault, but the prissiness of the media is beyond belief.
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### Author:  [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2017, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blue-jays-kevin-pillar-says-a-bad-word-gets-crucified/786999/132 "2017-05-20T15:58:35Z")
> [@Esco](#):
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> I feel so rejected âš
So you _are_ gay.
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### Author:  [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)
#### Post date: [May 20, 2017, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blue-jays-kevin-pillar-says-a-bad-word-gets-crucified/786999/133 "2017-05-20T16:15:13Z")
> [@SaneBill](#):
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> Itâs actually worse, even Jesus was suspended only one day.
And they even took him down before sundown!
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### Author:  [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2017, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blue-jays-kevin-pillar-says-a-bad-word-gets-crucified/786999/134 "2017-05-21T01:08:01Z")
Ryan Getzlaf of the Anaheim Ducks has been fined $10,000 by the Ducks for an âinapropriateâ remark that was âdemeaning and disrespectfulâ. Apparently the thing he said was aimed at an on-ice official (oops) and, according to those who were there and are lip-readers, he called the official a âfucking cocksucker.â He was not suspendded. Ok. But the media is referring to his remark as âhomophobicâ and a âhomophobic slur.â My question is: is cocksucker homophobic? Because that had never occurred to me as being homophobic any more than asshole is; itâs a pretty generic insult, isnât it?
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### Author:  [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2017, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blue-jays-kevin-pillar-says-a-bad-word-gets-crucified/786999/135 "2017-05-21T01:21:03Z")
> [@kayT](#):
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> My question is: is cocksucker homophobic? Because that had never occurred to me as being homophobic any more than asshole is; itâs a pretty generic insult, isnât it?
I _had_ always treated it as such, but Iâve learned (and understand the reasoning) that it is the same as calling something gay (another thing I stopped doing about 1/4 century ago).
Itâs getting tougher to insult people without offending a third party somewhere else.
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### Author:  [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2017, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blue-jays-kevin-pillar-says-a-bad-word-gets-crucified/786999/136 "2017-05-21T01:55:25Z")
Really? Are you two from the moon or something?
Calling a man a cocksucker is literally accusing him of engaging in homosexual acts. This is not an if you squint at it in the dark it might look a little homophobic kind of insult. It couldnât be more straightforwardly homophobic.
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### Author:  [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2017, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blue-jays-kevin-pillar-says-a-bad-word-gets-crucified/786999/137 "2017-05-21T02:02:37Z")
Itâs always interested me how people donât notice the literal meaning of common insults. Itâs fun when people realize âmotherfuckerâ means someone who has had sex with his own mom. (Though, as mild as itâs considered nowadays, many think it means someone who fucks other peopleâs moms.)
I remember when I figured out what calling someone a douchebag literally meant.
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### Author:  [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2017, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blue-jays-kevin-pillar-says-a-bad-word-gets-crucified/786999/138 "2017-05-21T04:51:46Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> Really? Are you two from the moon or something?
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> Calling a man a cocksucker is literally accusing him of engaging in homosexual acts. This is not an if you squint at it in the dark it might look a little homophobic kind of insult. It couldnât be more straightforwardly homophobic.
I realized it a while back, which is why I stopped using it long ago unless directly quoting Al Swearengen or Mister Wu (and _Deadwood_ has been off the air so long that I donât do that much anymore). And itâs not homophobic - itâs insulting to homosexuals (and presumably women who suck cocks - I guess it implies sluttiness) when used to insult someone, whether or not the target is gay (or a slut, or both). There is a difference. Once I put two and two together and realized that calling someone a cocksucker was implying that there was something wrong with being gay (which happened long before the internet or even Seinfeld telling me ânot that thereâs anything wrong with thatâ and when I could count the number of people I knew were gay on the fingers of one hand), I stopped using it. When I insult someone, Iâm looking to get under the skin of the target rather than an accurate description. However, terms like âgayâ and âcocksuckerâ donât just hit the intended target. Neither does âson of a bitchâ, but I still use that one.
Anyone who has had more than one child with the same woman (or any number of other variations on the theme) is technically a âmother fuckerâ, and many are happily âmother fuckersâ repeatedly. Yet most, if not all, of them know that if called a âmother fuckerâ by a third party, it is highly likely meant as an insult (probably because the mother implied though rarely clarified is the targets own).
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### Author:  [@Esco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esco)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2017, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blue-jays-kevin-pillar-says-a-bad-word-gets-crucified/786999/139 "2017-05-21T11:28:28Z")
> [@Colibri](#):
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> So you _are_ gay
You wish đ
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### Author:  [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)
#### Post date: [May 21, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/blue-jays-kevin-pillar-says-a-bad-word-gets-crucified/786999/140 "2017-05-21T17:51:34Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> Really? Are you two from the moon or something?
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> Calling a man a cocksucker is literally accusing him of engaging in homosexual acts. This is not an if you squint at it in the dark it might look a little homophobic kind of insult. It couldnât be more straightforwardly homophobic.
So, since I am a woman, if I call another women a cocksucker itâs ok then?
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