# Board completely inaccessible in the mornings, past 2 days

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-completely-inaccessible-in-the-mornings-past-2-days/506724>\
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**Created:** [August 17, 2009, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-completely-inaccessible-in-the-mornings-past-2-days/506724 "2009-08-17T14:57:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-completely-inaccessible-in-the-mornings-past-2-days/506724/21 "2009-08-18T15:22:26Z")

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> [@born\_too\_late](#):
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> It might not be just the database - I got a ‘dropped connection by the server’ message about 15 minutes ago…

But the server can drop you if the DB takes too long to respond. A timeout error can come from the DB or the code, depending on how it’s all set up. (Some scripting languages allow for an override on the code timeout, so it’s hard to tell.)

It’s happening some to me this morning, but a refresh clears it away.

(Free advice: save long posts in Notepad before submitting.)

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**Author:** ![IAmNotSpartacus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@IAmNotSpartacus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IAmNotSpartacus)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-completely-inaccessible-in-the-mornings-past-2-days/506724/22 "2009-08-18T15:26:59Z")

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> [@Ed\_Zotti](#):
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> Our host service is running some sort of time-consuming process on the database in the morning that causes tables to lock up from time to time. Jerry has asked them what they’re doing and whether they can reschedule it for the middle of the night.

This may be a dumb question but the SDMB is on its’ own dedicated server, right? Which begs the question-- why is your host running jobs on the database and not Creative Loafing?

I cannot fathom running a board like this on a virtual or shared server. :eek:

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**Author:** ![gotpasswords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@gotpasswords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gotpasswords)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-completely-inaccessible-in-the-mornings-past-2-days/506724/23 "2009-08-18T15:39:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Ed Zotti]  
Our host service is running some sort of time-consuming process on the database in the morning that causes tables to lock up from time to time. Jerry has asked them what they’re doing and whether they can reschedule it for the middle of the night.  
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During business hours on a production system? Go give them a smack upside the head for me, will ya?

Even if we are on a dedicated physical server (as opposed to a shared server or even a dedicated virtual server) there are plenty of system-level things such as file integrity checks that can really raise hell if the server admin (ie: the hosting provider) doesn’t know what they’re doing or is ignorant of time zones.

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**Author:** ![Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Brother_Walker)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-completely-inaccessible-in-the-mornings-past-2-days/506724/24 "2009-08-18T16:52:24Z")

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This also happened to me today.

I meant to try to keep re-loading to track it, but got caught up on something else bright and shiny.

On a semi-related issue, I keep having to re-enter my login info every five to ten minutes, or jump from board to board. Anybody else see this?

(Yes, I am a night owl. I often read these boards between midnight and dawn.)

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-completely-inaccessible-in-the-mornings-past-2-days/506724/25 "2009-08-18T17:52:44Z")

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Be sure to check the “remember me” box or whatever it is. It plants a cookie, so you need to enable cookies for this site if they’re disabled generally.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-completely-inaccessible-in-the-mornings-past-2-days/506724/26 "2009-08-18T18:07:38Z")

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Today’s occurrence seemed to be much later in the morning/early afternoon. No exact times, but approximately 11-12 to 1:30 pm, Eastern.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-completely-inaccessible-in-the-mornings-past-2-days/506724/27 "2009-08-18T18:12:39Z")

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Today was the worst I’ve experienced, no access at all roughly from 8:30 - Noon CDT.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-completely-inaccessible-in-the-mornings-past-2-days/506724/28 "2009-08-18T23:37:59Z")

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Yep. Bad day here too.

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-completely-inaccessible-in-the-mornings-past-2-days/506724/29 "2009-08-19T13:26:51Z")

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I’ve got a new one that I haven’t seen before.

As usual, a lot of board-hangs, errors, and the like. After a couple of minutes, all of the threads are listed as “read”. Nothing weird there. The weird thing is that I then opened up MSPIMS and found that it’s normal where the only “read” threads are the ones that were posted in prior to my last log in (i.e. last night). I’ve never seen one forum not follow the others in this error. Weird.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-completely-inaccessible-in-the-mornings-past-2-days/506724/30 "2009-08-19T13:43:57Z")

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terrible. only threads I can access are the ones on the main page, by clicking the go to last post button.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-completely-inaccessible-in-the-mornings-past-2-days/506724/31 "2009-08-19T15:03:52Z")

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It is doing that weird thing where it won’t refresh the Last Post display.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-completely-inaccessible-in-the-mornings-past-2-days/506724/32 "2009-08-19T17:34:16Z")

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Couldn’t get the forum at all today, from 10am to 1:30pm Eastern

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-completely-inaccessible-in-the-mornings-past-2-days/506724/33 "2009-08-19T18:54:04Z")

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Alas, 8:30 - Noon Central.

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-completely-inaccessible-in-the-mornings-past-2-days/506724/34 "2009-08-19T18:54:27Z")

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**Tuba** says the hosting company is running something intensive in the wee hours of the morning, Mountain Time. Apparently they are not aware of the national or international nature of this board. If that’s true, it must still be night at 9AM Mountain.

And this board is on a shared host?!?! (or !?!?)

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-completely-inaccessible-in-the-mornings-past-2-days/506724/35 "2009-08-20T02:49:28Z")

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Sheesh guys, whaddya want? The Hamsters have to take a break to eat sometime!

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-completely-inaccessible-in-the-mornings-past-2-days/506724/36 "2009-08-20T17:27:10Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> It is doing that weird thing where it won’t refresh the Last Post display.
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

Yeah, I see that a lot. It’s been happening sporadically for quite a time now.

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**Author:** ![ianzin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ed655f/32.png) [@ianzin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ianzin)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-completely-inaccessible-in-the-mornings-past-2-days/506724/37 "2009-08-20T17:34:18Z")

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> [@Ed\_Zotti](#):
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> Jerry has asked them what they’re doing and whether they can reschedule it for the middle of the night.

Of course ‘middle of the night’ is a relative term.

I’m based in the UK. For the past 2 - 3 weeks or so, my experience has been that in the morning the Boards are effectively inaccessible. Maybe the front page loads, but I can’t access any specific forum or thread. I can often get a thread to open by clicking on the ‘last post’, but by and large the Boards are unavailable. The problem seems to clear up around mid-day or 1 pm, and then everything runs normally until the next day.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-completely-inaccessible-in-the-mornings-past-2-days/506724/38 "2009-08-20T18:45:20Z")

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Strange. Same thing here, and I’m what, five hours off from you?

ETA: In other words, it’s a morning problem, and clears up in the early afternoon. Just like for you. But I’m in the Eastern Time zone (which I reckon is the world standard).

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-completely-inaccessible-in-the-mornings-past-2-days/506724/39 "2009-08-20T18:57:12Z")

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For me, it’s ~6:00 am to about 7:30 am, MST

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**Author:** ![PapSett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@PapSett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PapSett)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-completely-inaccessible-in-the-mornings-past-2-days/506724/40 "2009-08-20T19:47:55Z")

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I have this problem a lot too, and when I check it with ‘Down for you?’ it always says it’s just ME!

Glad to hear that it’s not!

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