# Board performance problems **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [May 27, 2013, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-performance-problems/659491 "2013-05-27T21:15:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-performance-problems/659491/122 "2013-06-17T14:50:50Z")
I would think that if there was news Jerry would give it to you. The rest of the staff has had no updates. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-performance-problems/659491/123 "2013-06-17T16:14:40Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Mods, are you still following this thread? **TubaDiva** , are you there? > > Okay, we’re about 2½ days Post-Crisis now, and pretty much everything seems to be going well. So, the recent posts above are mentioning some sporadic glitches. Likewise, I had one instance of couldn’t-log-in earlier today. But hey, that’s not even in the same ballpark as this time last week! > > Can you tell us something about what transpired? Have you swapped in some new hardware already, or did you just do a data re-build so far? > > You’ve told us earlier that this re-build would be followed by updates or re-builds or whatever on various slave servers over the next few days. What is the status of that? It seems that whatever Jerry did last Friday has substantially fixed things. So are you done? Or still going to do more work on it? Where do the sporadic glitches of the last two days fit into your grand scheme of things? > > Do you keep your hamsters working with carrots or sticks? Were very many of them replaced? Have you upgraded to a newer version of [Genetically Modified Monster Hamsters](http://uglypets.blogspot.com/2009/06/ugly-zombie-hamster-monster-pictures.html)? > > Don’t keep us ignorant! To do so is blasphemous around here! Dude, this post made _me_ tired and I’m not even a mod. Chill it down a few notches, bro. ---
**Author:** ![Becky2844](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Becky2844](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Becky2844)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-performance-problems/659491/124 "2013-06-17T17:57:47Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > Yeah, we added that to the program specifically for you. We’ve had about enough of your shit, Becky. 😃 Of course, since I posted that I’ve had no trouble getting in. So there. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-performance-problems/659491/125 "2013-06-17T18:17:49Z")
I’m still getting the search error thing. Is it just me? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-performance-problems/659491/126 "2013-06-17T18:23:46Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > I’m still getting the search error thing. Is it just me? I’ve gotten the 88/89 second error a couple of times but nowhere near the magnitude of before. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-performance-problems/659491/127 "2013-06-17T18:32:08Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > I’ve gotten the 88/89 second error a couple of times but nowhere near the magnitude of before. Ditto. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-performance-problems/659491/128 "2013-06-17T19:10:11Z")
Let’s try to clarify here: when you say “search error” what does that mean exactly? First, this is with the vBulletin search engine, correct? Or also searching via Google? If you do a vB search and you get it and then you do another vB search and you get the message, it’s not an error. That delay was put into the system intentionally because if it was not there the system would crash all the time just from doing searches. It’s a problem in the vBulletin architecture and the size of our board and that’s the best fix we could come up with. If it’s happening regardless of the search engine then it is indeed another kind of problem. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-performance-problems/659491/129 "2013-06-17T19:19:53Z")
Sometimes the vBulletin search engine returns the notice You must wait 89 seconds for a new search. Sometimes 88 seconds. It is always well past the 2 minute limit and was happening several times in a row. It is greatly reduced at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-performance-problems/659491/130 "2013-06-17T20:17:19Z")
> [@TubaDiva](#): > > Let’s try to clarify here: when you say “search error” what does that mean exactly? > > First, this is with the vBulletin search engine, correct? Or also searching via Google? > > If you do a vB search and you get it and then you do another vB search and you get the message, it’s not an error. That delay was put into the system intentionally because if it was not there the system would crash all the time just from doing searches. It’s a problem in the vBulletin architecture and the size of our board and that’s the best fix we could come up with. > > If it’s happening regardless of the search engine then it is indeed another kind of problem. No, the thing it was doing before it’s still doing - I haven’t done any searches at all, and then I do one and it says I have to wait 88 seconds. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-performance-problems/659491/131 "2013-06-17T21:30:09Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > No, the thing it was doing before it’s still doing - I haven’t done any searches at all, and then I do one and it says I have to wait 88 seconds. Okay that’s still a problem. Sorry about that. Jerry said the immediate action would not fix everything and obviously he was right. 🙂 Hope this resolves as soon as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-performance-problems/659491/132 "2013-06-19T20:51:24Z")
The last visited time is still getting reset. Just happened to me again now. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2013, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-performance-problems/659491/133 "2013-06-24T14:49:46Z")
A couple of problems popping up for me tonight. It’s taking a couple of minutes once I click on a thread for it to open. And oddly, some but not all threads I look at will still be marked Unread despite no new posts having been made to them by anyone. ---
**Author:** ![David\_H\_Singanas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@David\_H\_Singanas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_H_Singanas)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-performance-problems/659491/134 "2013-06-29T09:28:34Z")
> [@Anonymous User](#): > > I feel bad for any of the people newly registering right now. Anonymous, I have been reading about all these problems with SDMB performance. I have not noticed any problems, probably because I use legacy hardware and software. Nobody has blocked me, and I have had to re-register at times because of my own mistakes in navigating the website. I want the moderators to know I have total respect for them because they use a lot of their own time and energy processing hundreds of posts per day per moderator. I get a free lunch with every call to SDMB because volunteers are out there maintaining law and order in the SD system. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-performance-problems/659491/135 "2013-06-29T11:51:21Z")
> [@David\_H\_Singanas](#): > > I get a free lunch with every call to SDMB because volunteers > are out there maintaining law and order in the SD system. [ul] [li]There is no free lunch.[/li][li]Law possibly.[/li][li]Order? Seriously?[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-performance-problems/659491/136 "2013-06-29T14:02:14Z")
_I_’m the law in this town. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-performance-problems/659491/137 "2013-06-29T14:29:37Z")
And _I_m the order! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-performance-problems/659491/138 "2013-06-29T17:53:26Z")
No, no, no. I ordered a ham and cheese omelette with a side of hash browns. I don’t want to eat _you_. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2013, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-performance-problems/659491/139 "2013-06-29T23:58:36Z")
> [@David\_H\_Singanas](#): > > Anonymous, > > I have been reading about all these problems with SDMB performance. > I have not noticed any problems, probably because I use legacy hardware > and software. > > Nobody has blocked me, and I have had to re-register at times because of > my own mistakes in navigating the website. > > I want the moderators to know I have total respect for them because they > use a lot of their own time and energy processing hundreds of posts per day > per moderator. I get a free lunch with every call to SDMB because volunteers > are out there maintaining law and order in the SD system. Well, if your in an appeasing mood, why don’t you do us all a favor and stop pressing enter at the end of lines? Just use two presses to make a paragraph? Like this: The way you do it makes your posts look like poetry or something. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-performance-problems/659491/140 "2013-06-30T01:41:30Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Well, if your in an appeasing mood, why don’t you do us all a favor and stop pressing enter at the end of lines? Just use two presses to make a paragraph? Like this: > > The way you do it makes your posts look like poetry or something. Pssst… **BigT** …Some people like to compose their posts in a word processor, then copy & paste to the board. Sometimes this preserves the soft CRLF and makes it a hard one. But I agree, it’s unnecessary. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2013, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-performance-problems/659491/141 "2013-06-30T12:58:04Z")
Just to report in case it’s useful: It’s been working close to perfectly for days, but then tonight I’m getting that 87- or 88-minute message on Searches. It seems always to be one of those two numbers. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-performance-problems/659491.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/board-performance-problems/659491.md?page=8)