# Boardwalk Empire

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boardwalk-empire/555008>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 25, 2010, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boardwalk-empire/555008 "2010-09-25T14:53:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boardwalk-empire/555008/101 "2010-11-29T07:39:42Z")

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Great show so far - looking forward to the season finale next week.  
Any word on if the show has been picked up for another season? (Hope so!)

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**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boardwalk-empire/555008/102 "2010-11-29T18:16:52Z")

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So who’s been poisoning the Commodore? Hmmm?

Van Alden’s fate depends on (1) will anyone who saw the act report it to The Man? and (2) will they be believed if they do?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boardwalk-empire/555008/103 "2010-11-29T18:22:26Z")

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I thought it was implied that Jimmy’s mom was the one poisoning the Commodore, but I don’t think she really admitted it. Who gave him the cookies?

The only other suspect would be that housekeeper, and she has some pretty good reasons to hate him.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boardwalk-empire/555008/104 "2010-11-29T18:23:29Z")

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Didn’t Gillian implicitly admit to doing it, in the scene in which Jimmy told her that he threw up after eating a cookie?

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boardwalk-empire/555008/105 "2010-11-29T18:27:05Z")

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The number of people losing things or suffering in this episode is astounding.

- Angela is stood up by her girlfriend – I couldn’t really figured out what happened here. Did she run off to Paris with her husband instead of with Angela?

- Sepso gets drowned by Van Alden

- Margaret leaves Nucky

- Eli is forced to resign

- The commodore is nearly poisoned to death

- Gillian, however, doesn’t get the satisfaction of killing him

- Jimmy finds out that his wife was ready to leave him

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boardwalk-empire/555008/106 "2010-11-29T18:56:50Z")

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There was a lot of underlying menace in last nights epsiode. Even though I know some have complained that the show is not engaging, at this point I could not disagree more, there is a lot of simmering still going on.

It has turned out to be an excellent show all around.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boardwalk-empire/555008/107 "2010-11-29T19:15:13Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> I’m surprised how much menace Steve Buscemi is able to pull off, considering he usually plays the squirrelly harmless weirdo.

Well, he has played some psychos in his day. Remember Fargo? And he wasn’t the sickest guy in Reservoir Dogs, but he was definitely not harmless.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boardwalk-empire/555008/108 "2010-11-29T22:58:13Z")

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I think this was the best episode to date. I really like the relationship between Nucky and Margaret… the way they’re both not terrible people, but not perfect people, and in some amount of denial, etc.

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**Author:** ![MinkyBinks735](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@MinkyBinks735](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MinkyBinks735)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boardwalk-empire/555008/109 "2010-11-29T22:59:46Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> Anybody watching this?
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> Watched the first episode last night; it was pretty good. I like anything with Steve Buscemi and/or that era in American History. I usually have trouble keeping up with series, but I think I can stay with this one.

Are the previous episodes online anywhere?

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boardwalk-empire/555008/110 "2010-11-29T23:03:10Z")

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No, HBO doesn’t release episodes online. Itunes gets them after the season ends.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boardwalk-empire/555008/111 "2010-11-29T23:08:55Z")

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> [@DMark](#):
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> Great show so far - looking forward to the season finale next week.  
> Any word on if the show has been picked up for another season? (Hope so!)

It got picked up after the first episode.

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**Author:** ![MinkyBinks735](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@MinkyBinks735](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MinkyBinks735)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boardwalk-empire/555008/112 "2010-11-29T23:10:00Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> No, HBO doesn’t release episodes online. Itunes gets them after the season ends.

ok. thanks

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boardwalk-empire/555008/113 "2010-11-29T23:10:59Z")

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> [@MinkyBinks735](#):
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> Are the previous episodes online anywhere?

Not online. If you get HBO they should be available on your cable’s VOD.

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**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2010, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boardwalk-empire/555008/114 "2010-11-29T23:26:57Z")

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I am in agreement with those who think the show could have in the very least continued into a much longer season without any compromise in quality. I am addicted to show, have looked forward each week to the premier, then watch the episodes as repeats throughout the week.

Am really bummed that this coming Sunday will the final episode of the season. I don’t remember when I so looked forward to the showing of any tv series. It has become an obsession.

I liked True Blood but often those episodes turned out to be a real letdown - especially a letdown was the finale of last season. What a disappointment that was. Really dumb.

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**Author:** ![dzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@dzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzero)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boardwalk-empire/555008/115 "2010-11-30T07:50:55Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> The number of people losing things or suffering in this episode is astounding.
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> - Angela is stood up by her girlfriend – I couldn’t really figured out what happened here. Did she run off to Paris with her husband instead of with Angela?
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> - Sepso gets drowned by Van Alden
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> - Margaret leaves Nucky
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> - Eli is forced to resign
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> - The commodore is nearly poisoned to death
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> - Gillian, however, doesn’t get the satisfaction of killing him
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> - Jimmy finds out that his wife was ready to leave him

Jimmy seems to be incredibly tolerant with the women in his life when you consider his propensity for incredible outbursts of rage. I’m not saying that’s a bad thing but it gives him an almost Jekyll and Hyde quality.

At first I thought that the photographer’s wife was really acting more or less as her husband’s pimp - finding women willing to do a threesome must have been substantially more difficult in 1920 although I suppose it depended on the circles you traveled in. At this point I would guess that there never were any tickets to Paris, but I don’t see the point of the ruse, if that’s what it was. I suppose it’s possible that the wife was ready to leave Robert but his return changed her mind. In that case maybe the trip had been planned and she just picked a different companion. There are too many possibilities and my guess is that it never gets resolved.

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**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boardwalk-empire/555008/116 "2010-11-30T09:22:38Z")

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> [@dzero](#):
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> At this point I would guess that there never were any tickets to Paris, but I don’t see the point of the ruse, if that’s what it was. I suppose it’s possible that the wife was ready to leave Robert but his return changed her mind. In that case maybe the trip had been planned and she just picked a different companion. There are too many possibilities and my guess is that it never gets resolved.

I didn’t get the impression of a ruse. It looked like Angela’s “friend” had a change of heart.

Just after the two women talked of secret plans and Angela left, Angela’s friend’s husband “Robert”, after confronting of hearing secret mutterings, spoke some words in French.  
This seemed to cause the wife to react as if a sensitive nerve had been struck, she kisses Robert passionately on the neck.  
So then when Angela showed to discover the married couple both gone, I got the impression husband and wife took off together, most likely to Paris. Esp since shop keeper/landlord/guy sweeping said he overheard the couple talking about Paris previously.

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**Author:** ![dzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@dzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzero)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boardwalk-empire/555008/117 "2010-11-30T09:54:27Z")

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> [@the lone cashew](#):
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> I didn’t get the impression of a ruse. It looked like Angela’s “friend” had a change of heart.
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> Just after the two women talked of secret plans and Angela left, Angela’s friend’s husband “Robert”, after confronting of hearing secret mutterings, spoke some words in French.  
> This seemed to cause the wife to react as if a sensitive nerve had been struck, she kisses Robert passionately on the neck.  
> So then when Angela showed to discover the married couple both gone, I got the impression husband and wife took off together, most likely to Paris. Esp since shop keeper/landlord/guy sweeping said he overheard the couple talking about Paris previously.

You’re probably right, it’s just that this sort of volte-face is inconceivable to me. How do you believe that you’re in love with someone and make plans to run away together only to decide at the last minute to run away with someone else - even if does happen to be your husband. I just don’t get it.

Also, didn’t the rental agent cast some doubt on the idea of their being husband and wife by saying something like ‘. . . his wife, if that’s really what she was’. Not that it makes a difference, just pointing that out.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boardwalk-empire/555008/118 "2010-11-30T15:30:44Z")

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> [@dzero](#):
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> You’re probably right, it’s just that this sort of volte-face is inconceivable to me. How do you believe that you’re in love with someone and make plans to run away together only to decide at the last minute to run away with someone else

Indeed, the very person you were planning to run _from_ in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boardwalk-empire/555008/119 "2010-11-30T18:19:20Z")

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Okay. Sounds like I might have been wrong, perhaps didn’t look into it deeply enough. Thanks you two for the food for thought. And like you said **dzero** , I also doubt this will be resolved for the viewer - have a feeling from the way the story is moving, we’ll likely not ever find out the truth of the matter, that Robert and wife are gone from the story. I would certainly like to find out what the heck happened, though.

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**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/boardwalk-empire/555008/120 "2010-11-30T18:43:26Z")

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I’m wondering if Robert found out about Lucy’s plans, reflected on the fact that he had nearly been killed by Jimmy, and said, “We’re outta here.”

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