# Bob\_Blaylock hates Electric Vehicles and was happy to highjack a thread about it **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 13, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798 "2024-03-13T00:22:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/61 "2024-03-13T14:43:59Z")
> [@Bob\_Blaylock](#): > > Again, I had a perfectly valid opinion, for which I was attacked, and punished. ISTM that the opinion that you expressed was that vehicles that do not rely on directly burning fossil fuels cannot legitimately be characterized as “real cars.” As for the characterization of that opinion, “perfectly valid” is not among the first three that spring to mind. ETA: I suppose “ridiculed” can, if one squints just right, be classified as a form of “attacked,” but for “punished,” Imma have to ask you to elaborate. TIA. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/62 "2024-03-13T14:45:54Z")
I don’t understand your angst. Basically, you are telling us how awful it would be while, at the same time, you don’t own one and you aren’t suffering at all. It’s a: “This is how mad I would be if I was forced to own and drive an EV but I’m not so I don’t” pitting. Never seen one of these before. LOL ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/63 "2024-03-13T14:47:26Z")
I can’t believe I need a catalytic converter, either. What’s up with the government banning cars that burned leaded? ‘Real’ cars burn leaded only! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/64 "2024-03-13T14:53:20Z")
> [@bump](#): > > It may just be convenience, but not so many people are willing to just carve out a half-hour or more of charging time as well as whatever distance out of their way they have to go to do it. I’ve been known to wait half an hour to fill the gas tank (and not just at Costco) in my Prius (Question for **Bob\_Blaylock** : is that a real car? TIA). ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/65 "2024-03-13T14:56:55Z")
> [@bump](#): > > It may just be convenience, but not so many people are willing to just carve out a half-hour or more of charging time as well as whatever distance out of their way they have to go to do it. In my case (suburban NE Dallas), the nearest Tesla Supercharger is like 15 minutes away and not anywhere I’d choose to hang out. So I’m looking at roughly an hour to get there, charge, and get back, and it’s not even somewhere I could run mundane errands, like a grocery store or discount store of some kind. Almost all of us plug in at home. The gas tank is always full in the morning. If you can’t plug in at home (like Bob to be fair) then it doesn’t make sense for you. Nearly all major highways in the US have lots of superchargers along the way, especially in California (where Bob lives). No one has to like EVs but there’s no reason to be a dick about it. There’s even less call to be a transphobic piece of trash incidentally. ---
**Author:** ![Bob\_Blaylock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_blaylock/32/3235_2.png) [@Bob\_Blaylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bob_Blaylock)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/66 "2024-03-13T15:02:48Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > ETA: I suppose “ridiculed” can, if one squints just right, be classified as a form of “attacked,” but for “punished,” Imma have to ask you to elaborate. TIA.   Not on EVs, but on two other topics on this forum, I have been suspended for stating clear facts and expressing legitimate opinions, and have been forbidden from discussing those topics on this forum.&bsp; That is not the behavior of anyone who thinks his own positions can stand on their own; that is the behavior of dishonest cowards who know that their position is so weak that they can only _“win”_ by cheating. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/67 "2024-03-13T15:02:49Z")
Because I’m going to be forced to buy one in 5 or 10 years, & no, the infrastructure for charging them won’t increase one iota in that timeframe. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/68 "2024-03-13T15:08:08Z")
“Real car” = 8 characters, including the space. “ICE” (the commonly-used abbreviation for Internal Combustion Engine) = 3 characters. YMMV (pun intended), but my hypothetical (but non-existent) bigotry against EVs is _far_ surpassed by my profound laziness. That five-character savings … that’ll really add up fast. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/69 "2024-03-13T15:09:38Z")
And the best part is that you can do it at home. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/70 "2024-03-13T15:09:55Z")
> [@Bob\_Blaylock](#): > > Not on EVs, but on two other topics on this forum, I have been suspended for stating clear facts and expressing legitimate opinions, and have been forbidden from discussing those topics on this forum. Nothing personal, but I don’t think highly enough of you to take the initiative to search your posting history to contextualize those assertions. I’d appreciate if you could direct my attention to the punishments you’re claiming. I won’t be offended should you choose not to. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/71 "2024-03-13T15:10:12Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > That was my mentality before I read a lot. I decided that I better get a PHEV to make sure I could get there. But then I started playing with EV trip planners and figured out we could get to a lot of our normal places without too much more hassle or time, particularly when you throw in destination charging. And yes, I look forward to faster EV charging in several locations (look at northern to central Idaho for the charging desert we have to deal with), but it is coming. A lot of the places I’ve gone in the past few years weren’t so built-out yet in terms of chargers, so it would have added a fair amount of going out of the way and waiting on a charge. I agree that it’s coming, but it’s not quite here yet. And it’s a reasonable thing for some people to say that it’s not here yet to the degree they’ll need to make it work for them. I mean, a 400 mile range EV with a 15 minute charge time, and chargers as geographically distributed everywhere in the country like gas stations are now, and there’s no compelling reason NOT to have an EV, unless maybe you’re law enforcement or in some other line of work that might need to operate for an extended time without electricity. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/72 "2024-03-13T15:12:22Z")
> [@Bob\_Blaylock](#): > > Not on EVs, but on two other topics on this forum Wait, your complaining about getting attacked isn’t about this thread? Glad, because I haven’t seen it here. Mainly people complaining about your lame “real car” label. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/73 "2024-03-13T15:22:13Z")
Warning #1: This was for being a transphobic bigot. I am good with that. > [@Please stop using singular they for posters who have an established gender](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-stop-using-singular-they-for-posters-who-have-an-established-gender/995306/316): > > Moderator Warning We realize that gender issues can be controversial. However, as was already posted upthread, our admin has very clearly stated that if you don’t agree with the board’s position on this issue, keep your opinion to yourself. The comment quoted here, along with several others in this thread, have very clearly violated this rule. This is an official warning for transphobic comments and hate speech. We will also be discussing your posting privileges here. Warning #2: For using a homophobic slur > [@What kind of merchandise is kept locked up around the stores where you live?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-kind-of-merchandise-is-kept-locked-up-around-the-stores-where-you-live/989732/80): > > Moderating: This is a warning for a homophobic slur. Warning #3: For Covid hoax lies > [@Thread and Topic Bans in The Quarantine Zone](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thread-and-topic-bans-in-the-quarantine-zone/979794): > > Topic Bans: Board-wide topic ban for Bob\_Blaylock for COVID-related matters. After discussion in the mod loop, staff have decided to impose a board-wide topic ban on you. You are not permitted to discuss COVID-related matters or any aspect of this ongoing public health concern anywhere the board. This is a message board that is dedicated to fighting ignorance. As such, we expect people to be open to persuasion about any matter they choose to discuss. In the Quarantine Zone, a forum ab… ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/74 "2024-03-13T15:22:53Z")
Again, that was my mentality till I started digging into it and also, changed how I thought about how we travel. For now, we’ve kept our old Subaru (you know, “real car”), but we haven’t needed it yet. We are looking into our 3 month backpacking season and where we will be going: I know at least one trip can be done in our EV (Cabinet mountains), and I think another in the Sawtooths can be done with destination charging, but, that might also be the Subaru. We also might do some camping near the Frank Church and that would probably be the Subaru. Once charging stations show up along Highway 12 and down 95, we can safely sell the Subaru. I’m glad we got the EV. We also have the luxury of being able to be a 2 car household for now (we were a 1 car household for over a decade). Of course, it seems to me that everyone I know has at least one vehicle per adult in the house so maybe we are now the usual. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/75 "2024-03-13T15:26:38Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > There’s even less call to be a transphobic piece of trash incidentally. What? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/76 "2024-03-13T15:31:07Z")
Our next car will likely be an EV, but that will probably be a few years from now. I drive very little now compared to when I was working. I fill up monthly on average. So my 2015 RAV4 should stay with me for quite awhile. My daughter has my old Prius which I put a lot of miles on quickly at first and then my commute got much better and I dropped from 20k per year to 7k per year. (I’m now down to maybe 3k). That Prius is still doing well and has greatly exceeded all the naysayers about battery life. It is a 2010. My wife’s car will be the one replaced soonest, hers will probably go to my son. When we buy that first EV, I’ll probably get things setup for charging 2 cars. We have a 2 car garage. * * * I think Bob has a fair complaint about EVs won’t work well for him while he is still working. He expressed it terribly and in a way that caused a thorough hijack. He should have just started a new thread. The “Real Car” stuff is pretty close to minor trolling. His posts I brought over read more like ranting and so I put his rants over here in the Rant Place. I mean the Pit. * * * I’m glad he backed off of this move being censorship, has that was ridiculous on 2-3 levels. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/77 "2024-03-13T15:38:06Z")
> [@bump](#): > > > [@hajario](#): > > > > There’s even less call to be a transphobic piece of trash incidentally. > > What? Not you, of course. I was talking about @Bob_Blaylock. I am very very sorry for not being clear. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/78 "2024-03-13T15:38:11Z")
Follow @hajario who linked [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-stop-using-singular-they-for-posters-who-have-an-established-gender/995306/316) up above ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/79 "2024-03-13T15:40:28Z")
I personally could not have less of a dog in this fight, as I have never owned a car of any kind and have no current plans to acquire a car of any kind. When I do occasionally have to drive a rented or borrowed car, I drive whatever’s available and don’t care what kind it is. That said, I have no hesitation about joining the consensus that Bob\_Blaylock is being an annoying dick, solely on the basis of his asinine and childish insistence on calling ICE cars “real cars” to distinguish them from EVs. Dude, when you can’t even manage to express your “legitimate opinion” without throwing in gratuitous insults, you have automatically outed yourself as a dick. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/80 "2024-03-13T15:49:54Z")
> [@Bob\_Blaylock](#): > > That is not the behavior of anyone who thinks his own positions can stand on their own; that is the behavior of dishonest cowards who know that their position is so weak that they can only _“win”_ by cheating. It’s the behavior of people who are tired of playing chess with pigeons. You can spend hours on the rules and strategy, but they’ll still knock over the pieces, shit on the board, and strut around like they won. Better to shoo the tiny brained creatures away and play with someone who can comprehend the game. BTW, you’re the bigoted, ignorant pigeon in this analogy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798.md?page=5)