# Bob\_Blaylock hates Electric Vehicles and was happy to highjack a thread about it **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 13, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798 "2024-03-13T00:22:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/121 "2024-03-13T21:20:03Z")
> [@Bob\_Blaylock](#): > > Again, I had a perfectly valid opinion, for which I was attacked, and punished. Maybe you’re being attacked because you’re an complete asswipe. > [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > ‘Real’ cars burn leaded only! I bet he’s added a coal roller so he can pollute even more. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/122 "2024-03-13T21:27:09Z")
> [@Yookeroo](#): > > I bet he’s added a coal roller so he can pollute even more. It’s soon to be a factory installed option for the Cybertruck! Add a pair of bumper nuts and a huge Gadsden flag, and I could see them selling in my neck of the woods! That would be a real truck! ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/123 "2024-03-13T22:23:23Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Average age of vehicles on the road in the US is 12.5 years. [nitpick] Since that would imply that the average car lasts 25 years, which I very sincerely doubt, my WAG is that you were trying to say the average _lifespan_ of a car on the road in the U.S. is about 12.5 years. [/nitpick] ETA: If you meant what you said, I would definitely appreciate a cite. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/124 "2024-03-13T22:30:59Z")
He’s right, it’s the average age, not the lifespan. There are many cites available, but here’s one with more details. > **[Analysis of Average Age of Cars and Trucks on the Road \[2024\]](https://hedgescompany.com/blog/2024/02/average-age-of-cars-trucks/)** > > Average age of all vehicles: 12.7 years (2024), light trucks 12.4 (2024) and passsenger cars 13.7 (2024). How many classic cars are left: ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/125 "2024-03-13T23:03:36Z")
Something a little more official: > **[Average Age of Automobiles and Trucks in Operation in the United States |...](https://www.bts.gov/content/average-age-automobiles-and-trucks-operation-united-states)** > > KEY: RV = recreational vehicle; U = data are not available. a The 1969, 1977, 1983, and 1990 surveys do not include a separate category for sports utility vehicles (SUV), while the 1995, 2001, 2009 and 2017 surveys do. In 1990, most SUVs were... ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/126 "2024-03-13T23:46:59Z")
I don’t see any sort of breakdown for real cars vs imaginary. Got a better cite? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/127 "2024-03-13T23:53:35Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > I don’t see any sort of breakdown for real cars vs imaginary. Have you tried squaring it? It’ll be negative, but at least it’ll be real. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/128 "2024-03-14T00:00:28Z")
The topic is much too complex for that. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/129 "2024-03-14T00:01:35Z")
_i_ would agree with you. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/130 "2024-03-14T01:01:41Z")
NERD ALERT! And just in time for pie day! ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/131 "2024-03-14T01:03:30Z")
Should that be hijack? ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/132 "2024-03-14T01:24:35Z")
My discussion of real vs imaginary cars? 100% on topic as OP doesn’t see EV vehicles as real. Pie day? We are in the pit… ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/133 "2024-03-14T01:33:42Z")
> [@Bob\_Blaylock](#): > > here in California What the fuckityfuck? I thought you lived in some add-backwards part of the country with your claims about apartment charging. In California, apartment landlords are _legally obligated_ to approve EV charger installation, assuming you have any parking spots at all. > **[EV Charging for Renters and Rental Property Owners](https://www.santamonica.gov/blog/ev-charging-for-renters-and-rental-property-owners)** > California state law ([Civil Code section 1947.6](https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB1796)) requires landlords to approve tenant requests to install EV charging stations in their dedicated parking spaces so long as the tenant is willing to pay for the charging station and associated costs, including installation and utility costs. So “no realistic possibility of having one installed” as you said above is a total falsehood. You’ll have to front the costs, but they’re relatively small compared to the price of the EV. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/134 "2024-03-14T01:54:09Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > NERD ALERT! And just in time for pie day! I got a pi tattoo back when I was in college. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/135 "2024-03-14T02:11:52Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > So “no realistic possibility of having one installed” as you said above is a total falsehood. You’ll have to front the costs, but they’re relatively small compared to the price of the EV. Bob seems to think that we must respect his “opinions”, even when his opinions turn out to be blatant lies. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/136 "2024-03-14T02:18:34Z")
Have you even known a bigot who wasn’t an intellectually bereft liar? ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/137 "2024-03-14T02:18:40Z")
So Trump is on this board, using the name Bob… ---
**Author:** ![bobsmom101](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobsmom101/32/2867_2.png) [@bobsmom101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobsmom101)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/138 "2024-03-14T02:57:23Z")
Addressed by others, nm ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/139 "2024-03-14T13:45:14Z")
> [@bump](#): > > I mean, a 400 mile range EV with a 15 minute charge time, and chargers as geographically distributed everywhere in the country like gas stations are now, and there’s no compelling reason NOT to have an EV, unless maybe you’re law enforcement or in some other line of work that might need to operate for an extended time without electricity. The majority of police (urban & suburban) aren’t driving that far on a shift. On the rare times they get into a long chase, remember, you can’t outrun Motorola - they’d simply have ~~one~~ many of the other officers on the chase take over while they go refuel, same as in an ICE car today but that probably doesn’t happen very often It’s policy in many/most first responder depts today to refill the vehicle well before the general public does; like if it’s below 3/4 of a tank at the start of your shift. The bigger issue, & this goes for anyone with fleets is how they do all of their charging. Many depts have their one gas/diesel pumps that can fill any vehicle in a few mins. They’re going to need ~~220~~ 221 at their building, which might mean electrical upgrades to be able to charge so many vehicles in a relatively short time, which, of course, comes with a cost so they might not have their own refueling anymore & just go to the local charging station. Anyone know how much it degrades the battery to do supercharging all of the time instead of just occassionally? ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798/140 "2024-03-14T13:56:13Z")
> [@Spiderman](#): > > Anyone know how much it degrades the battery to do supercharging all of the time instead of just occassionally? I don’t think fast charging degrades the batteries. Of course, if you read EV forums, how to keep you batteries in tip-top shape is a hot topic with lots of opinions. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-blaylock-hates-electric-vehicles-and-was-happy-to-highjack-a-thread-about-it/998798.md?page=8)