# bob dylan

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-dylan/69438
**Category:** Factual Questions
**Created:** [June 20, 2001, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-dylan/69438 "2001-06-20T05:12:39Z")
**Posts on this page:** 3
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### Author: ![the\_duke\_69](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/48db29/32.png) [@the\_duke\_69](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_duke_69)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2001, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-dylan/69438/1 "2001-06-20T05:12:39Z")

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what does the #13/25 stand for on the song rainy day woman?

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### Author: ![K3v1n](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@K3v1n](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K3v1n)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2001, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-dylan/69438/2 "2001-06-20T05:51:24Z")

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I thought it was #12 & 35…

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### Author: ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)
#### Post date: [June 20, 2001, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-dylan/69438/3 "2001-06-20T12:26:29Z")

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One account (by Al Kooper, I believe, who was there) was that that it was a rainy day when he recorded it, and that there were two women in the studio that day, one aged 12 and the other aged 35.

A more complex (and IMO less likely) was that “rainy day woman” was drug slang for marijuana and that 12 and 35 were really a transposition of 13 and 25, with the 13th letter being “m” (for marijuana) and 25 was LSD-25. This was attributed to Allen Ginsberg, who may have been smoking something at the time. 🙂