# Bob is trapped in his job, how would you resolve this problem? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 20, 2016, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-is-trapped-in-his-job-how-would-you-resolve-this-problem/757872 "2016-06-20T06:56:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-is-trapped-in-his-job-how-would-you-resolve-this-problem/757872/101 "2016-06-21T15:33:19Z")
Bob’s no good to anyone dead. From the US perspective, any Civil Service job with decent pay and standard benefits would be better. As others have said, sell the house, talk to the wife and fam about cutting back and taking more of the financial weight on themselves. Management will never figure out what the real problem is. When faced with evidence contrary to their mindset, they will deny the evidence, and keep the mindset. Typically, this approach works until it doesn’t work, and then Circuit City, Borders Books, TWA, Enron, et al go out of business. ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-is-trapped-in-his-job-how-would-you-resolve-this-problem/757872/102 "2016-06-21T15:42:32Z")
[Everything Must Go](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiK2qICPP4o&index=9&list=PLsivMY0UPVaEd9zKe0QyZ4W2ezJuhQm_p) ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-is-trapped-in-his-job-how-would-you-resolve-this-problem/757872/103 "2016-06-21T15:48:39Z")
> [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > Bob’s no good to anyone dead. … Really? How much life insurance does he have? He might be quite valuable dead, to someone. Does his wife _really_ love him? ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-is-trapped-in-his-job-how-would-you-resolve-this-problem/757872/104 "2016-06-21T17:41:59Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Really? How much life insurance does he have? He might be quite valuable dead, to someone. > > Does his wife _really_ love him? Good point. Home may be as hellish as work. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-is-trapped-in-his-job-how-would-you-resolve-this-problem/757872/105 "2016-06-21T17:48:21Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Really? How much life insurance does he have? He might be quite valuable dead, to someone. > > Does his wife _really_ love him? Be careful about that. A “perfect plan” doesn’t always end up so well in the end. _Yes, I killed him. I killed him for money…and a woman…and I didn’t get the money and I didn’t get the woman. Pretty, isn’t it?_[RIGHT]Walter Neff, _Double Indemnity_[/RIGHT] Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-is-trapped-in-his-job-how-would-you-resolve-this-problem/757872/106 "2016-06-21T17:52:10Z")
OP, once Bob is securely in alternative employment at another organisation, it would be great if he would be prepared to give a hint as to the name of his current employer, just to make sure another schmuck doesn’t accidentally end up applying there. Or indeed holding its stock, should it be publicly listed. I’m pretty sure I don’t work in the same field as Bob so it’s unlikely to affect me personally, but it would be nice to be sure. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-is-trapped-in-his-job-how-would-you-resolve-this-problem/757872/107 "2016-06-21T18:02:30Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Really? How much life insurance does he have? He might be quite valuable dead, to someone. > > Does his wife _really_ love him? Bob better check that the company doesn’t have a policy on his life. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-is-trapped-in-his-job-how-would-you-resolve-this-problem/757872/108 "2016-06-21T18:09:54Z")
It’s pretty clear that his company doesn’t love him. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-is-trapped-in-his-job-how-would-you-resolve-this-problem/757872/109 "2016-06-21T18:30:49Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > He should get a dead fish, put it in the CEO’s desk, take a dump in his chair, tell him he has ugly children, and walk out. Probably a lot more entertaining if you leave the fish in the chair, and take a dump in one of his desk drawers without telling him. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-is-trapped-in-his-job-how-would-you-resolve-this-problem/757872/110 "2016-06-21T18:34:25Z")
If Bob’s got insurance for getting fired from his job, why isn’t Bob going on his scheduled leave, refusing to return, and getting his ass fired? Problem solved. And Bob finally gets to take leave! ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-is-trapped-in-his-job-how-would-you-resolve-this-problem/757872/111 "2016-06-21T19:15:49Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Probably a lot more entertaining if you leave the fish in the chair, and take a dump in one of his desk drawers without telling him. Protip: use fresh dogshit. Leave none of your DNA behind. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-is-trapped-in-his-job-how-would-you-resolve-this-problem/757872/112 "2016-06-21T19:24:23Z")
> [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > Protip: use fresh dogshit. Leave none of your DNA behind. 😃 Actually, not a good idea. Testing dogshit DNA is available commercially. It’s a thing not offered for human poop. [PooPrints](http://www.pooprints.com/) [Mr Dog Poop](http://mrdogpoop.com/) ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-is-trapped-in-his-job-how-would-you-resolve-this-problem/757872/113 "2016-06-21T19:48:26Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Actually, not a good idea. Testing dogshit DNA is available commercially. It’s a thing not offered for human poop. > > [PooPrints](http://www.pooprints.com/) > [Mr Dog Poop](http://mrdogpoop.com/) Ignorance fought! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-is-trapped-in-his-job-how-would-you-resolve-this-problem/757872/114 "2016-06-21T19:49:52Z")
There should be, dog-shit banks, like sperm banks, where you can get anonymous donations. ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-is-trapped-in-his-job-how-would-you-resolve-this-problem/757872/115 "2016-06-21T20:14:04Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Actually, not a good idea. Testing dogshit DNA is available commercially. It’s a thing not offered for human poop. > > [PooPrints](http://www.pooprints.com/) > [Mr Dog Poop](http://mrdogpoop.com/) I didn’t say use shit from your own dog. Any random dog will do. 😃 And human poop _is_ testable :p: [https://www.qiagen.com/us/shop/sample-technologies/dna/dna-preparation/qiaamp-dna-stool-mini-kit#orderinginformation](https://www.qiagen.com/us/shop/sample-technologies/dna/dna-preparation/qiaamp-dna-stool-mini-kit#orderinginformation) > [@](#): > > The QIAamp DNA Stool Mini Kit provides silica membrane-based purification of up to 30 μg genomic, bacterial, viral, and parasite DNA from fresh or frozen human stool or other sample types with high concentrations of PCR inhibitors. ---
**Author:** ![si\_blakely](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@si\_blakely](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/si_blakely)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-is-trapped-in-his-job-how-would-you-resolve-this-problem/757872/116 "2016-06-21T20:20:46Z")
Just to be clear, Income Protection Insurance of the sort “Bob” probably has covers involuntary loss of income, such as redundancy. More comprehensive coverage is prohibitively expensive. Getting legitimately fired may not be covered, so you need an Employment Disputes Tribunal ruling to show that the dismissal was unjustified to get a payout. So you need to be able to survive until that point. It isn’t as easy as “get deliberately fired”. And I suspect that such a course of action isn’t in “Bob’s” nature. [blackadder]Bob[/blackadder] Sent from my SM-G900I using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![si\_blakely](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@si\_blakely](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/si_blakely)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-is-trapped-in-his-job-how-would-you-resolve-this-problem/757872/117 "2016-06-21T20:23:50Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > There should be, dog-shit banks, like sperm banks, where you can get anonymous donations. Almost every UK park and public space has an anonymous deposit box for such donations. I’d wear a single glove to make a withdrawal, and discard it, though. 😉 Sent from my SM-G900I using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-is-trapped-in-his-job-how-would-you-resolve-this-problem/757872/118 "2016-06-21T21:00:19Z")
But Bob would be getting fired for taking his scheduled leave. Pretty sure, that’s gonna be considered covered as Bob definitely has a case. There must be rules about employers and leave in England, I should think. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-is-trapped-in-his-job-how-would-you-resolve-this-problem/757872/119 "2016-06-21T21:40:43Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Bob needs to drop his balls and stand up for himself. We can do a lot of yap, yap, yap but this is pretty much the bottom line. If Bob is not willing to take a stand because mortgage, bills, hard to find another job etc. then he gets what he gets. Also Bob needs to ask himself what’s going to happen to the car, house etc if he dies or is incapacitated due to the workload. The bank will take them back and all his equity is lost. All he’s doing right now is marking time until he collapses emotionally or physically. He’s making a bad bet. Bob is going to lose one way or the other in this job unless he changes the job or his working conditions. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-is-trapped-in-his-job-how-would-you-resolve-this-problem/757872/120 "2016-06-21T23:45:24Z")
If I were Bob, I’d chuck it all and become a street-corner beggar. Seriously. Even that would be a better life. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-is-trapped-in-his-job-how-would-you-resolve-this-problem/757872.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-is-trapped-in-his-job-how-would-you-resolve-this-problem/757872.md?page=7)