# Bob Seger ~ Night Moves lyrics dispute

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-seger-night-moves-lyrics-dispute/800898>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 6, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-seger-night-moves-lyrics-dispute/800898 "2017-11-06T17:15:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![mcgato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@mcgato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mcgato)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-seger-night-moves-lyrics-dispute/800898/21 "2017-11-07T22:16:27Z")

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> [@mcgato](#):
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> I’m pretty sure that the album (you know, vinyl thingy) includes lyrics for all of the songs, and it is “Tight pants points hardly reknown.” I’ll have to check when I get home, though.

Checked the album tonight, I forgot last night. And that quote is correct, complete with a “k” in the last word and no punctuation.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-seger-night-moves-lyrics-dispute/800898/22 "2017-11-07T22:19:21Z")

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> [@mcgato](#):
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> Checked the album tonight, I forgot last night. And that quote is correct, complete with a “k” in the last word and no punctuation.

So what you’re saying is “Bob Seger is no Shakespeare.” 😃

(In fairness, I’ve always found the ending of that song moving.)

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**Author:** ![x-ray\_vision](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/x-ray_vision/32/351_2.png) [@x-ray\_vision](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/x-ray_vision)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-seger-night-moves-lyrics-dispute/800898/23 "2017-11-07T22:35:49Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> I always assumed it was “hollering out.” If Bob Seger tells me it’s “Hardly renowned,” I’d say, “My wrong lyric is better than your correct one.”

Worse. Apparently it’s “reknown.” Guessing it’s just a spelling mistake, but strange that that mistake still didn’t end in “ed.”

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> I always figured the meaning was that he was a typical teen male with a 24 hour hard-on that showed through his tight jeans

But that would just be a point (no s).

I actually like “hardly renowned” better than “hollerin’ out.” It better completes the picture of him being nothing to write home about, as jsgoddess put it, as compared to him hooking up with someone out of his league and having a sex filled summer.

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**Author:** ![jlgradley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9adbd/32.png) [@jlgradley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlgradley)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-seger-night-moves-lyrics-dispute/800898/24 "2018-03-07T04:43:24Z")

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Bob Seger confirmed in a WSJ interview that it is actually “I was a little too tall, could’ve used a few pounds. Tight pants, points, hardly renown.” And this is what he said this was referring to:

"There are two references to “points” in the first verse: shoes and bosom. Back then we wore Ban-Lon shirts, tight jeans and pointed boots like the black musicians wore on stage. And I did have a dark-haired girlfriend, Italian. We were using each other. Trying things out. What can I say? Night moves! The song was sexy, but in a subtle way.

I really liked the title because it was two-edged. It had a duality to it. “Workin’ on our night moves”—our moves with girls—and “Ain’t it funny how the night moves”—what you remember as you’re getting older."

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**Post date:** [March 7, 2018, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bob-seger-night-moves-lyrics-dispute/800898/25 "2018-03-07T04:56:04Z")

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Nice find, jlgradley! Welcome aboard.

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