# Bobby Jindal. you lying sack of \[disgusting bodily waste\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 25, 2009, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322 "2009-02-25T04:20:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/181 "2009-02-26T16:53:46Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > I’m not saying I’m not giving Obama a chance, but please don’t insult me by talking about how we have to control spending when you submit a budget with a $1.75 trillion deficit. Did you all read that number? 1.75 TRILLION deficit, in one year. Less assign 100% of the blame to Bush. Fine. Obama is now President and he is the one that just submitted this 1.75 TRILLION dollar monstrosity while at the same time tell us of the “hard choices” we must make. I’m not saying that Bush wasn’t misleading us. He was. But I was looking for change here. Yes, we can, right? You have no idea what the hell you’re talking about. Next you’re going to claim that the New Deal prolonged the Depression, I expect. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/182 "2009-02-26T17:09:02Z")
[QUOTE=kaylasdad99] **Spartydog** , please note that I said AFAIAC. [/QUOTE] As Far As I ?? Ambulance Chase? Artichoke Cactus? Sorry, you’ll have to spell that one out for me. [QUOTE=Pochacco] It’s not even clear to me that a direct route to Union Station in downtown would be feasible… At that point Anaheim is closer than downtown L.A. and already has a Metrolink station that links up with everything from San Diego to Santa Barbara. [/QUOTE] You have misunderstood. I am not talking about the specifics of where to put the stations, or what route to take. I am talking about the general lay person description of the project as concept. “A high speed rail line from Las Vegas to LA” is the concept. Whether you put the station at Union Station, Anaheim, Pasadena, Long Beach, or Santa Monica is an irrelevant detail at this point of the conversation. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/183 "2009-02-26T17:15:06Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > please note that I said AFAIAC That only counts if you use a duck voice. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/184 "2009-02-26T17:25:28Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > **Spartydog** , please note that I said AFAIAC. Folks, I think he means “As far as I am concerned” Which doesn’t help at all. You’re applying an idiosyncratic definition. > [@Kalhoun](#): > > Jesus…they all looked like they were fighting a sleep apnea episode. I think you mean narcolepsy. ---
**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/185 "2009-02-26T17:34:57Z")
Another thing you never hear the Republicans discuss is the budget of their patron saint Ronald Reagan. In Jimmy Carter’s last year the Federal deficit was about $40 billion. Reagan immediately blew that up so that he was running deficits of around $300 billion. Carter lost a second term mainly due to the economy and he didn’t leave the country nearly as bad off as W did. If a Republican wants to spend money and run up deficits it is OK with the cons. Ronnie is still their hero. When a Democrat does it then it is just waste. How many times do you hear a conservative characterize themselves as a Reagan Republican? The hypocrisy is staggering. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/186 "2009-02-26T17:46:16Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > Don’t forget he also laughs at the idea of money for volcano monitoring. I wonder how he feels about hurricane monitoring… > > What a waste of smart. Of course, what state has some well-known volcanoes? Hawaii. And who do we know who hails from there? Hmmm… [Who cares about volcano monitoring?](http://www.npr.org/blogs/politicaljunkie/2009/02/jindal_comment_on_volcano_moni.html) ---
**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/187 "2009-02-26T17:51:05Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > It wasn’t counted in the budget he submitted, but it is certainly counted in the year end deficit figures, and it is counted in the debt calculation. If it isn’t, where does it get counted? Magic asterisk. > [@](#): > > I’m not saying I’m not giving Obama a change, but please don’t insult me by talking about how we have to control spending when you submit a budget with a $1.75 trillion deficit. Please don’t insult me by talking about controlling spending when you’re a Republican or a Republican supporter. Who knew that sustainable budget was suddenly a plank in the Republican platform? We’ve given the right-wing agenda time to work: tax cuts and tax cuts, with a side of tax cuts, and profligate waste. So far, call me crazy, it doesn’t appear to be moving us forward. > [@](#): > > It’s like your idiot brother in law with a 500 hundred dollar per day cocaine habit talking about how frugal he is with money. It doesn’t even pass the smell test. Your argument doesn’t pass the smell test. You _seriously_ expect that Obama is going to eliminate deficit spending on Bush’s wars and financial fuckup in ONE YEAR? Riiiiiiiight. Republicans want to be taken seriously as the defenders of fiscal sanity, and so they cry “tax cuts!” when they control the reins and “cut spending!” when they don’t. They think we don’t notice. Bush had EIGHT YEARS to cut spending. EIGHT YEARS, did you get that? Eight years to prove he was the paragon of Republican principles. Lower taxes, less government, free market rules all, etc. What did we get? A multi-trillion-dollar fuckup, just like every business Bush was ever handed to run, just bigger. Obama’s paying for it because there’s no alternative. The American voters know that you can’t pin this situation 100% on Obama, so it’s no use trying. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/188 "2009-02-26T17:55:44Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Of course, what state has some well-known volcanoes? Hawaii. Alaska too. > [@](#): > > And who do we know who hails from there? Hmmm… So much for the fundies’ Dream Ticket then. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/189 "2009-02-26T18:00:19Z")
Deficit spending is exactly the point of the economic stimulus, isn’t it? It will necessarily result in a marked deficit and an increase to the federal debt in the next year. Where’s the surprise? Did someone really think that Obama could simultaneously achieve the goals of the stimulus and cut the deficit this year? Final hint: the republican alternative “stimulus” bill of all tax cuts would also have resulted in a significant deficit this year. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/190 "2009-02-26T18:07:14Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Deficit spending is exactly the point of the economic stimulus, isn’t it? Other way around. Economic stimulus is the point; Keynesian deficit spending is the available tool. As we’ve seen, you can go into, or deepen, deficit by dumping money down a hole, or stashing it in the wealthy’s brokerage accounts, or putting into a destructive war, without stimulating anything but your own johnson. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/191 "2009-02-26T18:12:54Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Other way around. Economic stimulus is the point; Keynesian deficit spending is the available tool. As we’ve seen, you can go into, or deepen, deficit by dumping money down a hole, or stashing it in the wealthy’s brokerage accounts, or putting into a destructive war, without stimulating anything but your own johnson. You’re correct, and that is what I meant, but it doesn’t change the point that only a fool would be shocked! shocked! that we will end up with an increase in the deficit at year’s end. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/192 "2009-02-26T18:13:25Z")
Jindal had a copy of the speech early. He chose not to directly respond. Instead he opened up his 2012 run with a campaign speech. He did himself damage. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/193 "2009-02-26T18:17:30Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > I’m not saying I’m not giving Obama a change, but please don’t insult me by talking about how we have to control spending when you submit a budget with a $1.75 trillion deficit. Did you all read that number? 1.75 TRILLION deficit, in one year. Less assign 100% of the blame to Bush. Fine. Obama is now President and he is the one that just submitted this 1.75 TRILLION dollar monstrosity while at the same time tell us of the “hard choices” we must make. I’m not saying that Bush wasn’t misleading us. He was. But I was looking for change here. Yes, we can, right? I agree with that - 1.75 trillion is a scary number that needs to change. But your previous post said “let’s be honest” \*and \*that Bush’ last budget had only a $400 billion shortfall. See the problem there? ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/194 "2009-02-26T18:20:46Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > I was looking for change here. Yes, we can, right? That all depends on what your definition of “we” is: [Right, and Left Out Young Conservatives Can’t Get With the Program](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/25/AR2009022503849.html?sid=ST2009022600141) Very sad for them, but perhaps a new dawn for America. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/195 "2009-02-26T19:02:24Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Of course, what state has some well-known volcanoes? Hawaii. And who do we know who hails from there? Hmmm… > [Who cares about volcano monitoring?](http://www.npr.org/blogs/politicaljunkie/2009/02/jindal_comment_on_volcano_moni.html) Probably the same people who think the Adler Planetarium is an “overhead projector.” ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/196 "2009-02-26T19:05:04Z")
Is this going to be the catch all for everything that Obama does: Bush did worse? Please point to one thing where I said that Obama should balance the budget this year. He should not and cannot. But don’t come out and say how much you are cutting spending when you are increasing it by a record amount. Did anyone re-read the amount: $1.75 TRILLION? Argue what you will; say we need to borrow 1.75 trillion this year. Say we need to add approximately $150 billion per year every year in additional internet payment on the national debt by borrowing this amount. Tell me the economy, which by all accounts would turn around next year with no money, absolutely needs this extra spending. I can handle that, but don’t tell me that fiscal discipline is being shown here. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/197 "2009-02-26T19:11:26Z")
Fiscal discipline is not one of the available options. It might have been a effective preventive, had it been practiced by its most fervent advocates. It was not. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/198 "2009-02-26T19:11:31Z")
\*interest payment. D’oh! ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/199 "2009-02-26T19:21:03Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > That only counts if you use a duck voice. I laughed. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322/200 "2009-02-26T19:21:29Z")
[http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/02/jindals\_katrina\_story\_a\_tall\_tale.php](http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/02/jindals_katrina_story_a_tall_tale.php) _Talking Points Memo_ has a careful examination of Gov. Jindal’s story of brave folks standing up to clueless Washington bureaucreeps. “Implausible” is the most generous assessment. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bobby-jindal-you-lying-sack-of-disgusting-bodily-waste/487322.md?page=11)